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Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman 15 25.42%
The Lightning Thief by Rick Riordan 6 10.17%
The Voyage of the Minotaur by Wesley Allison 5 8.47%
Kraken by China Mieville 8 13.56%
The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany 8 13.56%
The Winds of Khalakovo by Bradley Beaulieu 1 1.69%
Nation by Terry Pratchett 5 8.47%
Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson 6 10.17%
The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N.K. Jemisin 2 3.39%
Oath of Swords by David Weber 3 5.08%
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:30 PM   #46
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I agree completely. I won mine so it wasn't a choice. I probably would have gone Sony, or maybe Kobo if I had paid for it. I love my Kindle, but it is frustrating sometimes. The cost of books for it now has it approaching doorstop value to me.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:32 PM   #47
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I agree completely. I won mine so it wasn't a choice. I probably would have gone Sony, or maybe Kobo if I had paid for it. I love my Kindle, but it is frustrating sometimes. The cost of books for it now has it approaching doorstop value to me.
I am hoping that once the price fix six are fixed so they have to allow discounts that Kobo will still be offering discounts.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:50 PM   #48
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Me too. Right now my wish list is just too expensive to want to purchase. Have I said how much I love my library today?

Back to the topic at hand. It looks like we might get three books in the run-off vote. I'll have to check out the other books on the list. I still think Neverwhere is a great selection, but I've read it.
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:33 PM   #49
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Oooooh, threesome.

Can Kraken and Elfland's spawn join forces to shut out Neverwhere? Tune into the next installment of bookclub voting and whining to find out!
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:55 PM   #50
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It's based on seeing the results of both hidden and non-hidden votes. There's enough data to suggest that we have a lot closer voting when it's hidden them we do when it's non-hidden.
Specifics, please! because I've seen the same data and I think they're inconclusive. Some months are close, some aren't, and how do you account for different topics and different levels of participation and interest?

Using May as an example, while there was a runaway winner in first, second place was hotly contested, and one that got off to a slow start, Kraken, made it to the next round. So clearly people weren't discouraged from voting for it, even though other nominees including Lightning Thief were doing far better at first.
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The run-off poll is up.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:48 PM   #52
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Specifics, please! because I've seen the same data and I think they're inconclusive. Some months are close, some aren't, and how do you account for different topics and different levels of participation and interest?

Using May as an example, while there was a runaway winner in first, second place was hotly contested, and one that got off to a slow start, Kraken, made it to the next round. So clearly people weren't discouraged from voting for it, even though other nominees including Lightning Thief were doing far better at first.
To make any claims either way would first require defining some useful metric of what “closer voting” is, and why that metric leads to better selection. Then would come the effort to establish a statistically significant demonstration as to which leads to a better result for that metric, hidden voting or open voting. Looking at the few months available I seriously doubt the results would support either conclusion. Right now people are just seeing what they want to see in support of the option that they prefer.

It hardly matters anyway since in the end when the issue is revisited the decision will be by a combination of a poll and WTSharpe's preferences.
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To make any claims either way would first require defining some useful metric of what “closer voting” is, and why that metric leads to better selection. Then would come the effort to establish a statistically significant demonstration as to which leads to a better result for that metric, hidden voting or open voting. Looking at the few months available I seriously doubt the results would support either conclusion. Right now people are just seeing what they want to see in support of the option that they prefer.
You lost me at "statistically significant demonstration". Mathz r hard.

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You forgot bribes.


Sorry, I'm rather amused by all the quibbling that goes on. Is this new or ongoing?
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You lost me at "statistically significant demonstration". Mathz r hard.

You forgot bribes.


Sorry, I'm rather amused by all the quibbling that goes on. Is this new or ongoing?
Ongoing.
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