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Old 03-14-2012, 12:00 PM   #16
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Nobody has yet gotten an iPad 3.
Not true. Lots of reporters seen it.

Seems to me that this kind of logic you use, relies on the metaphisical assumption that "until you dont' have something in your hands, you can have nothing to say about it". It this was true, we would have a very low consideration of knowledge and culture as mediated experience and reflection upon experience.

We have reliable data (what a lcd is, what "retina" is, we know super amoled plus which 'til now had a slightly better readability under bright light, etc) pics, vids like this and knowledge about how these displays react with bright light.
We also know that if this display was capable of something similar, Apple wouldn't wait to let us explicitly know via advertisings, that if can finally be read in bright light.

It's true that we common users cannot say nothing very precise and detailed about it.

But it's true that we have enough data to come to the conclusion that this ipad will never be able to display what we've seen in the misleading video, exaclty like no iPhone 4 and no super amoled plus is capable of that.

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:33 PM   #17
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Apparently you are new to the world of marketing and advertising.

This is done by every company in every ad.

You don't REALLY think that drinking Red Bull makes you sprout wings and allows you to fly unaided by any mechanical means do you?

This thread seems like just another trash Apple excuse.

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #18
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It's an altered photo, no doubt, but that's standard practice in advertising.

Looks like Photoshop Mistakes is gone, but see Photoshop Disasters.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #19
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Redbull spot is filled with irony. Apple's main spot is not, on the contrary.
So you admit that is a misleading advertisement.

I know lots of companies which fill their ads with bulls**ts, should we consider Apple one of them? Display is the main thing the new ipad is about. If you lie about it in your main spot, you lie about the entire product.

Hope this is clear enough.

There's more: this fake won't make Apple sell more. So I ask myself why
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #20
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Surprised no-one else has pointed this out, but in the same vein:
In the iPad 2 vs 3 iBooks comparison, the 'screenshot' on the left is not actually an iPad 1/2 iBooks image, it is a simulation based on scaling down the iPad 3 image.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #21
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In fairness Apple isn't the only corp to do this. One of Amazon's commercials shows a woman picking up her newly delivered Kindle Fire and using it while sitting on her doorstep. The screen image they show is clear and bright. Now, as much as I enjoy my Fire, I know that's not reality. I have trouble using it even on a shaded porch on a cloudy day, let alone in sunlight.
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Redbull spot is filled with irony. Apple's main spot is not, on the contrary.
So you admit that is a misleading advertisement.
No.. I think they shot the commercial in order to show off the device as best they could.

But, my larger point is.. this is nothing new... it is like starting a thread saying that the sky is blue.

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #23
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Yes, I admit the Apple ad is misleading. I don't get where you're going with this.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:01 PM   #24
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I was slightly surprised not to see a teeny-tiny disclaimer at the end saying that screen images were simulated - other adverts have such a disclaimer on them (not the jetBook Color ones though, but that's another thread...)

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Old 03-14-2012, 01:04 PM   #25
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In that film, one fellow reading on the beach is wearing sunglasses. I'm not going to say that the iPad 3 can't be read on the beach with sunglasses, but I know there's no way you could do that with the first generation iPad. It's an indoor device during the daytime. I can barely see the screen outside, even in the shade.

Maybe you can do that with an iPad 3, but I'd have to see it to believe it.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:04 PM   #26
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Sorry no.guru, I was answering to Bob, we just posted at the same time.

Bob, the answer is in the words you didnt' quote:
"Display is the main thing the new ipad is about. If you lie about it in your main spot, you lie about the entire product.
There's more: this fake won't make Apple sell more. So I ask myself why
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You say it's in the spirit of consumerism to lie about products, you may be right. Nonetheless, it's in the spirit of every man, trying to see behind lies. If I can choose, I prefer the second.

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Maybe you can do that with an iPad 3, but I'd have to see it to believe it.
I think if that was true, the advertising would contain not just 1 message (great resolution) but it'd explain how the display can finally be read in outdoors.
Resolution + Readibility in strong light= an epic win. I don't think Apple forgot something so important.

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Old 03-14-2012, 01:15 PM   #27
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Sorry no.guru, I was answering to Bob, we just posted at the same time.
No apology necessary. I do agree with Andy and somewhat with your sentiment. There should be a disclaimer, but maybe that's old school thinking now that photo alterations are so easily compared online.
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I was slightly surprised not to see a teeny-tiny disclaimer at the end saying that screen images were simulated - other adverts have such a disclaimer on them (not the jetBook Color ones though, but that's another thread...)

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It was pretty obvious to me that the images were indeed simulated. However there will be many who will not realise this, and will base their purchase on a false representation of the product. If this is not a classic bait-and-switch, what is?
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