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Old 02-09-2012, 08:32 PM   #1
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FBI confirms Steve Jobs was a piece of s**t

FBI releases file on Steve Jobs and confirms that he was a selfish bastard.


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Old 02-09-2012, 08:41 PM   #2
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A link would help... after all this is the organisation run by J Edgar so transparently... or was that his rumoured nightie??

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Old 02-09-2012, 08:41 PM   #3
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The information released was based on interviews. None of it is substantiated.

One of the people who provided damning testimony was a jilted girlfriend. Another was a former co-worker.

All of this may be true, but consider the source.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:44 PM   #4
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The information released was based on interviews. None of it is substantiated.

One of the people who provided damning testimony was a jilted girlfriend. Another was a former co-worker.

All of this may be true, but consider the source.
Now that's much better, solid , reliable and substantiated evidence... great improvement of "FBI confirms..."
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #5
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A link would help... after all this is the organisation run b J Edgar so transparently... or was that his rumoured nightie??
Here's your link
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:55 PM   #6
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Now that's much better, solid , reliable and substantiated evidence... great improvement of "FBI confirms..."
I was casting aspersions on the testimony not the FBI. Did you read the article?

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Another source said she was reluctant to discuss Mr. Jobs, because she had "questions concerning his ethics and morality." The woman, who said that she and Jobs had "experimented" with drugs together in the past, also described him as "shallow and callous." His success as head of Apple, she said, had given him an "enormous amount of power" and "caused him to distort the truth at times to get his way." Despite this, she recommended him for the government position.
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The question of whether Mr. Jobs, who had admitted to drug use in his youth, still used drugs while at Apple comes up frequently in the file. It appears nearly everyone interviewed believed he no longer used drugs.
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A Palo Alto, Calif.-based man who identifies himself as a former "good friend" of Mr. Jobs said that while he was "basically an honest and trustworthy person, he is a very complex individual and his moral character is suspect." Mr. Jobs "alienated a large number of people at Apple, as a result of his ambition."
It also has positive references. Jobs had a TS, so they looked pretty carefully into his background. If this is the worst of 191 pages, he has better character than most of the leaders of government and industry.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #7
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Reading through the early pages, we know that Jobs wasn't a communist
The red scare was passé circa 1980.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #8
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Here's your link
Thanks... there's a downloadable pdf for anyone wanting to read the facts including a later investigation into a threat against Steve Jobs...

And wizwor, I was poking fun at the description of the original sources of the quotes...

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Old 02-09-2012, 08:58 PM   #9
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I don't think anyone gets to that level of upper management with a strong moral center...you don't get to the top being a "nice guy".
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:17 PM   #10
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Pretty much all of this has public knowledge for years.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:25 PM   #11
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There is nothing in that report that wasn't broadly known before, from his "reality distortion field" and selective memory, to his treatment of offspring, and his "generosity".
The only reason the press went after the FBI report is because it is now open season on Apple. (Without St Jobs at the helm, all that remain is a multinational that makes a billion dollars a week off chinese sweatshops.)

A bit too late to be running "exposes", of course.
And meaningless.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:28 PM   #12
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Thanks... there's a downloadable pdf for anyone wanting to read the facts including a later investigation into a threat against Steve Jobs...

And wizwor, I was poking fun at the description of the original sources of the quotes...
Ironic that I didn't catch that
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:37 PM   #13
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Pretty much all of this has public knowledge for years.
Yep. See:

Be a Jerk: The Worst Business Lesson From the Steve Jobs Biography

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Apple's founder and CEO could be a cruel and nasty guy. He was also the greatest chief executive of our time. Don't go thinking those two things are related. . . .

asshole logic, not surprisingly, tends to ignore facts that don't sanction one's own assholery. This distorted reasoning was already prevalent before Steve Jobs's death, and is only likely to spread as Isaacson's biography closes in on becoming the best-selling book of 2011. Five years ago, when Stanford professor of management science and engineering Robert Sutton was researching his book, The No Asshole Rule: Building a Civilized Workplace and Surviving One That Isn't, he ran across a disconcerting number of Silicon Valley leaders who believed that Steve Jobs was living proof that being an asshole boss was integral to building a great company.

Sutton's counter-thesis was that assholes--which he defined as those who deliberately make co-workers feel bad about themselves and who focus their hostility on the less powerful--poison the workplace and induce qualified employees to quit and are therefore bad for business, regardless of the asshole's individual talent or effectiveness.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:05 PM   #14
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So this is the government-authored version of his autobiography?
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:57 AM   #15
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He experimented with drugs in his youth and may have used drugs while at Apple.

So he wasn't all bad then.
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