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Old 12-24-2011, 11:41 AM   #16
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The first and best impression reading this left with me, is the realization that Dickens had a sense of humor. Only having read Great Expectations before (and as a young teen), I did not know that about him and his writting.

What are you favorite parts, scenes and/or quotes from The Christmas Carol (funny or otherwise)?

I have a few, but the following two made me laugh:

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Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. *Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile;
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Oh! But he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone, Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous, old sinner!
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:30 AM   #17
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I think that this is an interesting addition to this discussion:

Campaign To Honour Real-Life Ebenezer Scrooge John Elwes
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:13 AM   #18
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An interesting article, Hamlet53. It's always fascinating to ponder where authors got the inspiration for some of their most interesting characters, although the article seems to hint that perhaps John Elwes's miserly ways extended only to himself and his personal habits. Prior to his visit by the four specters, Dicken's Scrooge would never have "spent a fortune on the redevelopment of London’s West End."

I also love the quote from the novel, which somehow failed to jump out at me when I read it:
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Darkness is cheap, and Scrooge liked it.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:22 AM   #19
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The way I see it, Scrooge had a shock to the system (sort of). First he sees the door knocker change to be Marley's face. Then he sees Marley's ghost with all the chains. Then he get ghost of the past and goes to the past. He sees himself all alone in the school. Then we see him a little bit older and learn his father didn't want him at home and he had a sister that died in childbirth. We also see him at his first job and he falls in love and that falls apart as he gets more successful and wanting to make more money.

Next he gets the ghost of the present and we see Bob Cratchett and his family and Tiny Tim. Scrooge did not know the circumstances Cratchett was in and the situation with Tiny Tim. He also sees his Nephews house and how happy they are playing silly games and just being together.

Finally he gets the ghost of the future and learns of a man who died and nobody liked him at all. That life is better off without him. Also, he's found out that Tiny Tim has died. He finally finds out that it's his death and that really gave a shock to him.

All of these things combined really has show Scrooge the light. It's changed him. He didn't want to be that man who died alone. He didn't want Tiny Tim to have died. He changed so what he saw in the future would not come to pass.

He knew he could do something about the rest of his life and he did.
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Maybe the story would have ended differently had antipsychotics been available in the 19th century.
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Maybe the story would have ended differently had antipsychotics been available in the 19th century.
Some think it was all a dream and that Scrooge thought it was real.
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One question I'd like to bring up for discussion:

ACC is self-evidently a Christmas story, but is it an overtly Christian story?

So, after reading so many answers: what do you think yourself about it, what's your opinion?
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:49 AM   #23
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It's an interesting point, and I'm in two minds about it.

Dickens was certainly a practising Christian, but it's evident from many of the portrayals of clergymen in his books that he thought that there was a lot of hypocrisy in the Church.

On the whole, I'd agree with those who say no, it's not overtly Christian. It's about treating people like human beings, no matter how poor they are, and how low their social status might be (Dickens was very big on social reform, of course).

I've seen it suggested in commentaries on ACC that Bob Cratchett's family celebration should be interpreted as a reinterpretation of the "Last Supper", with Tiny Tim in the role of Jesus, but I don't see this myself.

At the end of the day I see it as a great "feel-good" story, which tries to show that it's never too late to repent and start doing good.
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I think I'd agree that it's not really a Christian story, even though it's about Christmas. Whereas, for example, The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe is very clearly a Christian story.

But then, Christmas isn't really Christian either!

I did enjoy reading the book, having just seen the 1951 film adaptation with Alastair Sim.

It did seem to me that a glossary is needed for some of the archaic terms and references, but there was nothing that I didn't understand that spoiled the story.

It's definitely written in a humorous style. A very good choice indeed for the book club this December.
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