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View Poll Results: December 2011 MobileRead Book Club Vote (Classics)
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne 4 5.06%
The Iliad by Homer 7 8.86%
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens 13 16.46%
The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd by Agatha Christie 9 11.39%
The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton 2 2.53%
Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence 2 2.53%
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov 12 15.19%
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad 10 12.66%
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller 11 13.92%
To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf 9 11.39%
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:08 PM   #151
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Don't sweat it, Nyssa. I'll delay reading it for another week.

I read A Canticle for Leibowitz as soon as it was chosen and waited a month for the discussion thread to begin. Lesson learned.
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I downloaded the free version from the library here and it's good as far as I read, but I've ended up ordering "The Annotated Christmas Carol" to read (it's only in paper as far as I can tell).

I'm only a little ways into the introduction so far but it's quite interesting. For instance, I didn't know that at the time, Christmas as a fun, generous holiday had been on the wane because of Puritan dislike of its similarities to a pagan Roman holiday, to the point that workers were not even let off for Christmas. And that "A Christmas Carol" may have single-handedly revived the tradition that is continued today.
Well, I just learned something new! Thanks for sharing that Sun Surfer.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:55 PM   #152
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I'm only a little ways into the introduction so far but it's quite interesting. For instance, I didn't know that at the time, Christmas as a fun, generous holiday had been on the wane because of Puritan dislike of its similarities to a pagan Roman holiday, to the point that workers were not even let off for Christmas. And that "A Christmas Carol" may have single-handedly revived the tradition that is continued today.
That really does give some context to the story. Thanks for that.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:35 AM   #153
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19th Century Vocabulary

Fellow readers of A Christmas Carol, please help if you can. I've liberally referenced the dictionary, but the meanings of several passages still elude me.

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had a dismal light about it, like a bad lobster in a dark cellar.
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and up the stairs: slowly, too: trimming his candle as he went.
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It opened before them, and disclosed a long, bare, melancholy room, made barer still by lines of plain deal forms and desks.
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cried out, 'Well done!' and the fiddler plunged his hot face into a pot of porter, especially provided for that purpose.
I'm 45% through the tale. Forum members willing, I'll post a few more in time.
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"Trimming the candle" refers to the wick. He was removing the excess wick as it burned.

"A pot or porter" refers to a type of wine or sherry.
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"a bad lobster" - putrescence was often associated with a glow in the dark - from bacteria
"pot of porter" - porter is a type of dark beer
"plain deal forms and desks" - Long, unpainted and unvarnished school benches made of deal wood, or pine.
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"What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew"

http://www.victorianlondon.org


http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/
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"What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew"
I can't read it. It's not an ebook.

But thanks for those other links:

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:45 PM   #158
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Thanks Nysaa and poohbear for the explanations and links.

I thought the dark beer, when I saw "porter," but the language is so strange:

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I envision a red-faced fiddler dunking his head into a basin full of beer.
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Beer? Oh. Ok, "port" is sherry, not porter - sherry
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Beer? Oh. Ok, "port" is sherry, not porter - sherry
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Sherry, Sherry baby
Sherry, Sherry baby

She - e - e-e-e-e-ry baby
She - e - rry, can you come out tonight
She - e - e-e-e-e-ry baby
She - e - rry, can you come out tonight

(Why don't you come out) to my twist party
(Come out) Where the bright moon shines
(Come out) We'll dance the night away
I'm gonna make-a you mi-yi-yi-yine

She - e - e-e-e-e-ry baby
She - e - rry, can you come out tonigh
(Come, come, come out tonight)
(Come, come, come out tonight)
You-oo-ooh better ask your mama
Tell her everything is all right

(Why don't you come out) with your red dress on
(Come out) Mmm, you look so fine
(Come out) Move it nice and easy
Girl, you make me lose my mind

She - e - e-e-e-e-ry baby
She - e - rry, can you come out tonight
(Come, come, come out tonight)
(Come, come, come out tonight).

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Thank you for the Jon!!

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*walks away shaking her head, chuckling to herself.
When we were on our cruse in October/November 2011 one of the shows was a group doing Frankie Vallie and the Four Seasons songs They were quite good.
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Thanks Nysaa and poohbear for the explanations and links.

I thought the dark beer, when I saw "porter," but the language is so strange:



I envision a red-faced fiddler dunking his head into a basin full of beer.
Beer was sold in "pint pots" - essentially large mugs - so when the fiddler raised the mug to his face to drink, the mug hid his face from view as if he had dunked his head into the mug! Dickens has some very lively - and lovely - descriptive passages.
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Beer was sold in "pint pots" - essentially large mugs - so when the fiddler raised the mug to his face to drink, the mug hid his face from view as if he had dunked his head into the mug! Dickens has some very lively - and lovely - descriptive passages.
Ah, voila! Thank you.
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