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Old 11-23-2011, 02:31 PM   #1
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SURVEY: best and worst moves of the e/publishers

Hello,

I was wondering what the readers of this great forum think are the good and the bad choices publishers did or are doing with regards to ebooks and why.
I would like to include the big players and also the small ones, the national and the international ones, the English related and the non English related ones, those that work only online and those that also have stores and so on.
Choices can be related to anything, from the technical things (drm, closed formats, making ereaders, interoperability etc. ), and to marketing/business (easiness of purchase, distribution, royalties taken form authors, pricing, discounts, merges, cooperations etc.).
After the post gets enough answers, I will write a post with the results well organised, in the hope that it will be of use to anyone interested in the subject. A sort of picture of the actual situation, of the previous trends and the future ones.
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:20 PM   #2
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:22 PM   #3
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Some of the things that are "bad" are also "good." High prices by traditional publishers opened up an entire world of choice and opportunity for indie writers and readers. Since I am an author, that probably colors my judgment, although I am also an avid Kindle reader.

Amazon has done almost everything right, from my view (admittedly biased, because I have a publishing deal with them and they've sold a lot of my books). They virtually created the ebook market, they fought to push prices down to a fair level, and they spawned a lot of competition. Now they are opening up their Prime library. We don't know the long term but they are the ones pushing evolution while many of the other players are digging in their heels and trying to shove the horse back in the barn.

BN has been plagued by its continued devotion to the dying brick and mortar stores. Every special is designed to get people into the stores instead of buying more ebooks. Fail. Although I give them good marks on creating a direct upload for authors, they have not been very proactive in cashing in on those new opportunities, instead trundling out the latest James Patterson. I think this has hurt them because they didn't get the grassroots push that Kindle did. Never underestimate the power of half a million authors shooting out their Amazon links day after day.

Which is why Kobo should jump ahead, because it ditched the brick and mortar. Now run by an e-commerce company, it has no considerations about "hurting paper" or "protecting bookstores." It can spread out and take risks. I expect Kobo to be #2 in a year, two years at the most.

Sony. Not sure even Pottermore will save it for another year.

iBookstore. It doesn't exist. Even if you know what you are looking for, good luck finding it. Browsing is impossible. I don't see Apple catching up until everyone Steve Jobs ever hired is gone. If they even care.
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:56 PM   #4
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Also, I won't buy any ebook over $5. Perhaps if there was a technical manual I really needed. But for a novel? No way.
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:31 PM   #5
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Worst move by far is putting out ebooks that haven't been proofread. People here tend to be a bit jaded by it by now, but it's a big shock to newcomers who are more used to real books.

Best, probably all the new writers who are able to reach an audience that we would have otherwise never had, writing about subjects the traditional publishers aren't interested in. Though that could also be a bad thing as well when they rush into it
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:02 PM   #6
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Thank you all for the replies, I put some of my thoughts just to keep the thread going.
Good:
1. collaboration between publishers to have a bigger catalog of available titles and a better distribution.
2. make their own devices and sell them at reasonable prices as part of the ebook experience (Amazon).
3. offer free books if the authors agree to do so and perhaps add a chapter of other books of the same author.

Bad:
1. bad search engines for the catalogs and too simple subdivision of the subjects.
2. lack of interoperability and/or agreed standard.
3. tedious drm systems, that often force the buyer to remove them "illegally".

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Old 11-25-2011, 09:27 AM   #7
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:26 PM   #8
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If you haven't gotten the message from other threads, Penguin seems to be the most muddleheaded to me. Their ebook prices are too high as they strive desperately to protect their print publishing. They're restricting lending under the smokescreen of "protecting authors" from piracy. They just seem to be the most clueless overall.

The best: the independents. They're pricing aggressively, promoting through social media, building their fan bases...doing the smart things, all with few or no resources other than time and dedication.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:22 PM   #9
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If you haven't gotten the message from other threads, Penguin seems to be the most muddleheaded to me. Their ebook prices are too high as they strive desperately to protect their print publishing. They're restricting lending under the smokescreen of "protecting authors" from piracy. They just seem to be the most clueless overall.

The best: the independents. They're pricing aggressively, promoting through social media, building their fan bases...doing the smart things, all with few or no resources other than time and dedication.
So true. Businesses that fail to change with the times will become as extinct as the Dinosaurs.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:08 AM   #10
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BAD - Agency pricing model.
What do you mean exactly? Prices too high?
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What do you mean exactly? Prices too high?
I think he means prices fixed by the publisher, without any leeway for the retailer to discount them like they would for physical books. It is also essentially a euphemism for a price cartel.
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BAD - Agency pricing model.
Ugh. This can really be a pain in the tookus.
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