MobileRead To see or not to see: 2012 Voting

WT Sharpe · 11-21-2011, 05:58 PM

The purpose of this poll is to find out how people are liking the hidden vote, and decide whether we wish to keep it in 2012, go back to the way things were, mix it up a bit, or find some other way of doing things.

There are four choices:

All Book Club Polls in 2012 should be Hidden.

All Book club Polls in 2012 should be Viewable.

Each month, we should alternate between hidden and open voting.

Other (Please explain in comments).

NOTE: The actual numbers in the poll are different from the number of people who voted on each question because one member asked if they could change their vote.

Bilbo1967 · 11-21-2011, 06:07 PM

Could we please stick to the current method of barrack-room lawyering by Jon and others? It really is very entertaining.

The Terminator · 11-21-2011, 06:14 PM

The one thing that I see lacking in the poll option is being able to have a first, second, and third choice. So you can say ------- would be your first choice but if nobody else votes for that your vote would be carried over to you second choice.

So you could still vote for the book that you really want to read even though it's not doing so great in the current votes. I think that would mean less wasted votes.

Nyssa · 11-21-2011, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Terminator

The one thing that I see lacking in the poll option is being able to have a first, second, and third choice. So you can say ------- would be your first choice but if nobody else votes for that your vote would be carried over to you second choice.

So you could still vote for the book that you really want to read even though it's not doing so great in the current votes. I think that would mean less wasted votes.

Yes! Preferential/Ranked voting!! Can we vote on that next please, Tom, or open it to discussion now? I know the suggestion has been brought up more than once.

JSWolf · 11-21-2011, 06:24 PM

I would be suspect if open polling won. I would be thinking these people don't mind having their opinions taken from them.

JSWolf · 11-21-2011, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Could we please stick to the current method of barrack-room lawyering by Jon and others? It really is very entertaining.

We'll only get that in the nomination thread. No longer in the vote thread. So if you voted for open voting because of that, you've wasted your vote.

Bilbo1967 · 11-21-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Terminator

The one thing that I see lacking in the poll option is being able to have a first, second, and third choice. So you can say ------- would be your first choice but if nobody else votes for that your vote would be carried over to you second choice.

So you could still vote for the book that you really want to read even though it's not doing so great in the current votes. I think that would mean less wasted votes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyssa

Yes! Preferential/Ranked voting!! Can we vote on that next please, Tom, or open it to discussion now? I know the suggestion has been brought up more than once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would be suspect if open polling won. I would be thinking these people don't mind having their opinions taken from them.

See what I mean!

Hamlet53 · 11-21-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Terminator

The one thing that I see lacking in the poll option is being able to have a first, second, and third choice. So you can say ------- would be your first choice but if nobody else votes for that your vote would be carried over to you second choice.

So you could still vote for the book that you really want to read even though it's not doing so great in the current votes. I think that would mean less wasted votes.

Yes, such a proportional system would be very good. Say after the initial vote take the top to in the running (A & B) and then to each total add those who selected neither of those two, but selected A or B as 2nd choice. Unlike what some claim here a straight hidden poll does not necessarily select the book most people want. With ten books to select from a plurality of voters can select a book that would not have been the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, . . choice of a majority of voters. The problem is that I do not believe this can be done with the current polling software?

So this does not mean I voted for the "other" option. I figure like King Solomon split the baby in two and make everyone at least partly happy.

JSWolf · 11-21-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53

Yes, such a proportional system would be very good. Say after the initial vote take the top to in the running (A & B) and then to each total add those who selected neither of those two, but selected A or B as 2nd choice. Unlike what some claim here a straight hidden poll does not necessarily select the book most people want. With ten books to select from a plurality of voters can select a book that would not have been the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, . . choice of a majority of voters. The problem is that I do not believe this can be done with the current polling software?

It cannot.

HomeInMyShoes · 11-21-2011, 07:48 PM

It's gotta be other. Basically it's a hidden poll, but at various times you can see part of the results. Like on Tuesdays between 3:45 and 3:47 (GMT) you can see the votes for the odd-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour green in it, then on Thursday between 18:23 and 18:25 (GMT) you can see the votes for the even-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour red in it. Unless of course all the books were nominated by people with the colour yellow in their avatar and then the first, third and eight book are always hidden regardless of previous times and colours. If one of the titles contains the word black then it's voting result can be seen all the time unless your forum name begins with B, D, U, or M in which case you only see book number seven's results on odd-numbered days in non-leap years.

Nyssa · 11-21-2011, 08:19 PM

Tom, can I change my answer?

WT Sharpe · 11-21-2011, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyssa

Tom, can I change my answer?

I don't have the power to do that, but let me ask one of the Administrators and see if they can. They have powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal moderators. Just in case they can (it is an open vote), what would you like to change it to?

Nyssa · 11-21-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I don't have the power to do that, but let me ask one of the Administrators and see if they can. They have powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal moderators. Just in case they can (it is an open vote), what would you like to change it to?

I would like to choose: "All Book Club Polls in 2012 should be Hidden. ". As much as I like my original choice, I think my new choice would be best. Its less work/remembering for you & dreams and overall more fun for me. Please and Thank You for asking the powers that be.

sun surfer · 11-21-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

It's gotta be other. Basically it's a hidden poll, but at various times you can see part of the results. Like on Tuesdays between 3:45 and 3:47 (GMT) you can see the votes for the odd-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour green in it, then on Thursday between 18:23 and 18:25 (GMT) you can see the votes for the even-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour red in it. Unless of course all the books were nominated by people with the colour yellow in their avatar and then the first, third and eight book are always hidden regardless of previous times and colours. If one of the titles contains the word black then it's voting result can be seen all the time unless your forum name begins with B, D, U, or M in which case you only see book number seven's results on odd-numbered days in non-leap years.

This idea sounds fantastic! Although, I find it very disconcerting that you make no allowance for avatars with the colour orange...

(I tried to give you karma for making me laugh but apparently you were the last person I gave any to so it won't let me)

beppe · 11-22-2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sun surfer

This idea sounds fantastic! Although, I find it very disconcerting that you make no allowance for avatars with the colour orange...

(I tried to give you karma for making me laugh but apparently you were the last person I gave any to so it won't let me)

Done.

View Poll Results: Should voting results be hidden or visible in 2012?
All Book Club Polls in 2012 should be Hidden.	17	47.22%
All Book Club Polls in 2012 should be Viewable.	7	19.44%
Each month, we should alternate between Hidden and Viewable.	10	27.78%
Other (Please explain in comments).	2	5.56%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

11-21-2011, 05:58 PM	#1
WT Sharpe Grand Muckity-Muck Posts: 26,560 Karma: 70415012 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindles: Paperwhite/K-3/Touch, Sony PRS-600, iPod (audio books), iPad1	To see or not to see: 2012 Voting The purpose of this poll is to find out how people are liking the hidden vote, and decide whether we wish to keep it in 2012, go back to the way things were, mix it up a bit, or find some other way of doing things. There are four choices: All Book Club Polls in 2012 should be Hidden. All Book club Polls in 2012 should be Viewable. Each month, we should alternate between hidden and open voting. Other (Please explain in comments). NOTE: The actual numbers in the poll are different from the number of people who voted on each question because one member asked if they could change their vote. __________________ Last edited by WT Sharpe; 11-22-2011 at 10:41 AM.

11-21-2011, 06:07 PM	#2
Bilbo1967 Not scared! Posts: 6,342 Karma: 18574228 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Solihull, UK Device: Sony 650, Sony T2, Xoom, Nexus 7, Nook ST	Could we please stick to the current method of barrack-room lawyering by Jon and others? It really is very entertaining. __________________ The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. Mark Twain My early and invincible love of reading, . . . I would not exchange for the treasures of India. Edward Gibbon

11-21-2011, 06:24 PM	#5
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,204 Karma: 13801264 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	I would be suspect if open polling won. I would be thinking these people don't mind having their opinions taken from them. __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

11-21-2011, 07:48 PM	#10
HomeInMyShoes Ginormous Intergalactic Posts: 9,919 Karma: 33625427 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: junkyard Device: Kindle3	It's gotta be other. Basically it's a hidden poll, but at various times you can see part of the results. Like on Tuesdays between 3:45 and 3:47 (GMT) you can see the votes for the odd-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour green in it, then on Thursday between 18:23 and 18:25 (GMT) you can see the votes for the even-numbered books, but only if they were nominated by someone who's avatar has the colour red in it. Unless of course all the books were nominated by people with the colour yellow in their avatar and then the first, third and eight book are always hidden regardless of previous times and colours. If one of the titles contains the word black then it's voting result can be seen all the time unless your forum name begins with B, D, U, or M in which case you only see book number seven's results on odd-numbered days in non-leap years. __________________ Reading Lists: 2011 \| 2012 \| 2013 “Reading one book is like eating one potato chip.” - Diane Duane

11-21-2011, 06:14 PM	#3
The Terminator Wizard Posts: 2,554 Karma: 37299838 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	The one thing that I see lacking in the poll option is being able to have a first, second, and third choice. So you can say ------- would be your first choice but if nobody else votes for that your vote would be carried over to you second choice. So you could still vote for the book that you really want to read even though it's not doing so great in the current votes. I think that would mean less wasted votes.

11-21-2011, 08:19 PM	#11
Nyssa Series Addict Posts: 5,029 Karma: 42208765 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle 3 (Wifi Only), Kindle Paperwhite	Tom, can I change my answer? __________________ 2013 Challenge Discussion Thread. 2013 Challenge List Thread.My Reading Challenge for 2013 My Reading Progress for 2013.My GoodReads Reviews for 2013.My GoodReads Thread for 2013

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