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Old 09-27-2011, 02:11 PM   #121
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Unless you openly disclose with something like, "this is an affliliate link that gives me X amount of money from a purchase you make", with appropriate details included.

Just to clarify, and I speak for myself only, I will not presume to speak for others:

My complaint is not in any way that posters are now required to disclose that they are posting affiliate links. I don't care either way, but honesty is always better. My big gripe/complaint is that forcing the links into one single thread the way they are now makes it a LOT harder for me to find what I'm looking for.

I don't come to this forum skimming and grabbing what looks good. I come here looking for specific things and digging through multiple threads looking for the bargain I'm waiting for takes a lot longer than skimming or Ctrl-F'ing a list of thread titles. It's harder to use this forum now. That is my complaint.
+1. I browse in the same manner.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:15 PM   #122
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If you want to post about a great deal or find you made and claim it is "for the community" then why are you attaching affiliate codes to them? Affiliate links are "hidden" commercial advertising.
Hidden? How exactly are they are hidden? I place my cursor over the link and I can see the entire link including the affiliate code.

Once again, I'll say this was a knee-jerk decision and you (the moderators and owners of this site) have managed to alienate a large portion of your members. With what results? Affiliate links are still being posted. Posters can still make money from those posts in the same way as before. It's become increasingly difficult for the members to find interesting books.

But while I disagree with the decision, as I said earlier, your site - your rules.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:20 PM   #123
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I really do not want to fight with the moderators. Fights just entrench everyone more firmly in their opinions.

Can we just TRY the 2-link, 1-post method? Please? For a week or two?
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:30 PM   #124
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite frankly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:33 PM   #125
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I really do not want to fight with the moderators. Fights just entrench everyone more firmly in their opinions.
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Can we just TRY the 2-link, 1-post method? Please? For a week or two?
Please?
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:34 PM   #126
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite franlkly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?
Translation: By doing it this way, instead of the old way, moderators don't have to spend more than half their time dealing with duplicate affiliate link threads and can focus on actually doing their jobs as moderators instead.

That's all you had to say.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:36 PM   #127
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Translation: By doing it this way, instead of the old way, moderators don't have to spend more than half their time dealing with duplicate affiliate link threads and can focus on actually doing their jobs as moderators instead.

That's all you had to say.
Exactly.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:41 PM   #128
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Watch how the strange magic works:

I'm withdrawing all complaints about the new format. I know how busy moderators are, and what forum communities are like without moderators who care, and if this change is necessary to make your job here easier, I have no problem with it. I'd lie if I say I like it, but I'm not going to complain anymore. I just wanted the courtesy of an explanation, and now I have one. It's an explanation I understand, but even if I didn't understand it, I'd be perfectly willing to accept it.

Thanks for taking a moment to post it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:41 PM   #129
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite franlkly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?
Why was that so hard to explain? Most people here only ever wanted an official explanation that made some semblance of sense to them. Thank you. I'm still not crazy about the solution, but at least I can somewhat understand.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:42 PM   #130
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite frankly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?
Thank you.

Actually, if there's a vote, yes. From me anyway.

I liked the old way. If going back to the old way means there are double posts in the Deals forum, that's STILL faster for me to look at than this new way. If you want to declare the Deals forum "No Man's Land" and not spend time cleaning it, that's actually fine with me. A few duplicate titles to glance at is a small price to pay for... a few duplicate threads that I have to read all the new posts in to find the deals.

To clarify: the new way is essentially useless to me. The old way, even if it were to get cluttered, wasn't. That's my 2 cents.

EDITED TO ADD: And I notice the duplicate threads are already being spammed with Author Self-Promotions. Which can't be easy for ya'll to find and delete, nested inside the whole thread. Seems like "no man's land" would be easier for both you and me.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:47 PM   #131
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite frankly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?
I can appreciate this, if the deals forum is taking too much time to moderate then I agree. It would of been nice if this was the reason given originally rather then passing it off as "User Complaints"
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:53 PM   #132
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Why was that so hard to explain? Most people here only ever wanted an official explanation that made some semblance of sense to them. Thank you. I'm still not crazy about the solution, but at least I can somewhat understand.
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I can appreciate this, if the deals forum is taking too much time to moderate then I agree. It would of been nice if this was the reason given originally rather then passing it off as "User Complaints"
+1 to both posts.

Thank you for explaining. I really didn't nor do I yet understand why affiliate links are a problem. I do, however, understand cutting down on troublesome & unnecessary work loads.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:57 PM   #134
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We moderators are the main ones who wanted the change because, quite frankly, we're fed up with the daily requests for thread and post deletions in the ever-escalating War of the Affiliate Links. We're being worked to death for free on behalf of people who are earning money from our efforts. The only alternate we can see is to let duplicate threads and posts clutter the forum. Is that what you really want?
Actually there is/was another alternative. Just ban affiliate links. Certainly some of the current set of posters will stop posting, but others will take their place and we can get back to a single post per deal as in the past. You've made life easier for the mods and a pain in the a$$ for the members.

My last post on the subject.
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I can appreciate this, if the deals forum is taking too much time to moderate then I agree. It would of been nice if this was the reason given originally rather then passing it off as "User Complaints"
^This.

I guess silly us for assuming the complaints were coming from users ...
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