Upgrading Calibre triggers full library backup ?

pchrist7 · 08-07-2011, 12:32 AM

Hi All
Is anyone else observing that a full library backup is done when you start Calibre after an upgrade ?
Could be my setup, but don't know.
No problem really, just curious.

Brgds Per

Manichean · 08-07-2011, 05:19 AM

What do you mean by 'full backup'? The only backup mechanism I'm aware of is the metadata backup to OPF, which should only run once for the full library when you install the version introducing that feature.

DoctorOhh · 08-07-2011, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchrist7

Is anyone else observing that a full library backup is done when you start Calibre after an upgrade ?

I don't notice anything along these lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchrist7

Could be my setup, but don't know.

If you have calibre's program directory set to sync/backup changed files this could be what your seeing after you install a new version. I'm fairly sure though that what you're seeing is not a function of calibre.

theducks · 08-07-2011, 10:45 AM

Would the introduction of a new Metadata field trigger an automatic update of the stored (backup ) OPF files?

kovidgoyal · 08-07-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

Would the introduction of a new Metadata field trigger an automatic update of the stored (backup ) OPF files?

No, only if a value is set for the new field for all books.

theducks · 08-07-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

No, only if a value is set for the new field for all books.

Thanks for the clarify

pchrist7 · 08-09-2011, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manichean

What do you mean by 'full backup'? The only backup mechanism I'm aware of is the metadata backup to OPF, which should only run once for the full library when you install the version introducing that feature.

Sorry for delayed answer, been a bit hectic at work.
Yes, I meant a full OPF backup
Library ->Library Maintenance ->Library Metadata Backup Status

8.12 Showed me 0 to be backed up before installing 8.13.
After upgrade, 1600 books needed backup.
Sunday I installed the new 8.13, and again 1600 books needed backup.

Will look more into it during 8.14 upgrade.

Brgds Per

DoctorOhh · 08-09-2011, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchrist7

Yes, I meant a full OPF backup
Library ->Library Maintenance ->Library Metadata Backup Status

8.12 Showed me 0 to be backed up before installing 8.13.
After upgrade, 1600 books needed backup.
Sunday I installed the new 8.13, and again 1600 books needed backup.

I just reviewed this setting and mine also says 0 books. I also spot checked and found that for books that had not been updated recently the metadata.opf files were also not updated recently.

I will look at the status after I initially install 0.8.14. Even if it says 8611 books need backed up I know that it is not doing this. If what you see occurs for all of us then I suspect it takes a little time for the new version to index/verify the status and until it does it reports (however briefly) inaccurate numbers.

Good Luck.

pchrist7 · 08-09-2011, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwanthny

I just reviewed this setting and mine also says 0 books. I also spot checked and found that for books that had not been updated recently the metadata.opf files were also not updated recently.

I will look at the status after I initially install 0.8.14. Even if it says 8611 books need backed up I know that it is not doing this. If what you see occurs for all of us then I suspect it takes a little time for the new version to index/verify the status and until it does it reports (however briefly) inaccurate numbers.

Good Luck.

I also did a few spot checks, shows that books not changed in 1 year, have opf files with timestamp after upgrade.
Even an old rar file not yet converted.
Let's see in 8.14

I'm certain I've told Norton to keep away from Calibre/Libraries.

Brgds Per

DoctorOhh · 08-09-2011, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchrist7

I also did a few spot checks, shows that books not changed in 1 year, have opf files with timestamp after upgrade.
Even an old rar file not yet converted.
Let's see in 8.14

I'm certain I've told Norton to keep away from Calibre/Libraries.

Brgds Per

Could it be because you initiated a backup after seeing 1600 books needed backup?

theducks · 08-09-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchrist7

I'm certain I've told Norton to keep away from Calibre/Libraries.

Brgds Per

That was smart

I now keep Norton away from my computer

after Norton disabled my legitimate, reinstalled (after a HD formating

incident) copy.

JSWolf · 08-09-2011, 10:39 AM

There is no 0.8.14. The current is still 0.8.13.

DoctorOhh · 08-09-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

There is no 0.8.14. The current is still 0.8.13.

Thanks, but we all know that 0.8.14 hasn't come out yet. That was the whole point about talking about checking things again once the next (0.8.14) version comes out.

pchrist7 · 08-12-2011, 08:55 AM

Hi All
I THINK I can clear Calibre as a "suspect" for this problem.
I didn't do any upgrades, so what did I do to trigger this ?
(calibre doing almost full opf backup of main library)
Did some convertion tries of a book, couldn't get it right, SO remove the mobi from Calibre, removed the same from collection on K3, and deleted same from K3.
Bought same from AMZ, sent to K4PC, imported into Calibre(ssssshhhh), sent to K3, everything ok, "I think, so far".
Forgot to check libr. opf back status, naturally :-(
Then I did an import of K3 collections to Calibre using "the plugin" and boom
1688 books needed "opf back".

MEME: I'm NOT saying the plugins is the culprit !!!!!!! So don't worry !, yet

I have a blinding headache, but I hope I'll have the chance to test this all over again, before doing any upgrades of Calibre.

Don't get your knickers twisted yet !
This was just an update.
If this should trigger any ideas/things to look for during tested, I would be pleased, though.

Otherwise
Have a nice weekend,
(need to sleep, hopefully get rid of this headache)

P.S. Having colleeges: They instantly sympathized with me and said they were sorry I had "Phantom pains"

Ah well, I would have said the same

pchrist7 · 08-13-2011, 01:58 AM

Hi All
Decided to start the tests by just doing a Calibre upgrade.
Before upgrade, 8.13 - 0 books to backup, after upgrade to 8.14 - 0 books to backup.
Need to do some planning/testing before I can determine what triggers the full opf library backup.
Have a nice weekend,
Brgds Per

08-07-2011, 12:32 AM	#1
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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 34,652 Karma: 14439052 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad, nook STR	There is no 0.8.14. The current is still 0.8.13. __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

08-12-2011, 08:55 AM	#14
pchrist7 Addict Posts: 379 Karma: 6476 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3 3G+Wifi	AHA - new situation Hi All I THINK I can clear Calibre as a "suspect" for this problem. I didn't do any upgrades, so what did I do to trigger this ? (calibre doing almost full opf backup of main library) Did some convertion tries of a book, couldn't get it right, SO remove the mobi from Calibre, removed the same from collection on K3, and deleted same from K3. Bought same from AMZ, sent to K4PC, imported into Calibre(ssssshhhh), sent to K3, everything ok, "I think, so far". Forgot to check libr. opf back status, naturally :-( Then I did an import of K3 collections to Calibre using "the plugin" and boom 1688 books needed "opf back". MEME: I'm NOT saying the plugins is the culprit !!!!!!! So don't worry !, yet I have a blinding headache, but I hope I'll have the chance to test this all over again, before doing any upgrades of Calibre. Don't get your knickers twisted yet ! This was just an update. If this should trigger any ideas/things to look for during tested, I would be pleased, though. Otherwise Have a nice weekend, (need to sleep, hopefully get rid of this headache) P.S. Having colleeges: They instantly sympathized with me and said they were sorry I had "Phantom pains" Ah well, I would have said the same

08-13-2011, 01:58 AM	#15
pchrist7 Addict Posts: 379 Karma: 6476 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3 3G+Wifi	Calibre upgrade is NOT the culprit Hi All Decided to start the tests by just doing a Calibre upgrade. Before upgrade, 8.13 - 0 books to backup, after upgrade to 8.14 - 0 books to backup. Need to do some planning/testing before I can determine what triggers the full opf library backup. Have a nice weekend, Brgds Per

08-07-2011, 05:19 AM	#2
Manichean Wizard Posts: 3,127 Karma: 77366 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Device: Cybook Gen3	What do you mean by 'full backup'? The only backup mechanism I'm aware of is the metadata backup to OPF, which should only run once for the full library when you install the version introducing that feature.

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