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Old 08-03-2011, 01:12 PM   #31
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The way this will work is that the Kindle users checks out the eBook and if Amazon has it, it gets served to the Kindle user via Amazon. Now does this mean any format eBook or just ePub? If it means any format eBook that the library has, then it's unfair to non-Kindle users.
It is not unfair at all. If your precious Sony bookstore would get off its backside and give you the same service you wouldn't be complaining.
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:17 PM   #32
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so kindle users can take out kindle library ebooks THROUGH OVERDRIVE?
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:07 PM   #33
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so kindle users can take out kindle library ebooks THROUGH OVERDRIVE?
Not yet; but soon.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:26 PM   #34
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It is not unfair at all. If your precious Sony bookstore would get off its backside and give you the same service you wouldn't be complaining.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:24 PM   #35
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It's unfair of Amazon to offer superior support for their product.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:30 PM   #36
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Agreed. I do understand the frustration, but 'let's hope Kindle users can only borrow epub'? Wouldn't it be more logical to hope that other devices will also be able to borrow other formats? (Which they actually can to some extent)

I hope that the other companies will let their devices do what the Kindle can do with Overdrive, whatever that may be, since we don't really know what it is yet.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:16 PM   #37
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Haven't you been the siren song calling for Amazon to adopt a universal format (ie... epub). Would not each ebook lisense downloadable in any format be a step towards your goal of a universal format.
You have totally missed the point. Please go back and reread and see if you can manage to get what's actually said.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:19 PM   #38
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The problem of more readers leading to longer waiting times would surely be at least as bad if the whole world were to follow JS Wolf's ideas and adopt epub en masse.
It would be better overall. The libraries would stop purchasing copies in PDF. So say the library bought 2 PDF and 2 ePub. If they instead bought 4 ePub, that would be better.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:22 PM   #39
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Besides, Overdrive plans to nerf format distinctions in its service in the near future. End-users won't see format options, and librarians won't have to purchase/license 3 PDF's, 2 ePubs and 1 AZW.
When is this near future going to happen? Will this then mean that is a library has 1 Mobipocket, 1 PDF & 1 ePub, instead of 3 separate formats, they will have 3 copies and the borrower can choose from the available formats what to borrow?

Libraries won't be purchasing AZW as the Kindle users borrows the ePub and Amazon fills the order.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:29 PM   #40
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I'd like to know where everyone is getting all this "This is the way it's going to work" information. As far as I know, we really don't know much at all about how it's actually going to work.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:34 PM   #41
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I'd like to know where everyone is getting all this "This is the way it's going to work" information. As far as I know, we really don't know much at all about how it's actually going to work.
Unless libraries have to buy copies for the Kindle (which we know they won't), there really is only one way things can work. You borrow from the library and Amazon fills the order and sends it on to your Kindle or Kindle app.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:35 PM   #42
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:17 PM   #43
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Unless libraries have to buy copies for the Kindle (which we know they won't), there really is only one way things can work. You borrow from the library and Amazon fills the order and sends it on to your Kindle or Kindle app.
We can speculate till the cows come home, have dinner, watch TV, go to bed, and get up the next day, and we still won't be any closer to knowing for certain how things are going to work.
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We can speculate till the cows come home, have dinner, watch TV, go to bed, and get up the next day, and we still won't be any closer to knowing for certain how things are going to work.
I won't say this often...but Jon is right. :-). There is no other way for this to work given that OD and Kindle have confirmed that the library won't have to buy additional e-books or separate Kindle-format books.
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We are one community. Distinctions harm, not help.

And they certainly harm much more than allowing free flowing library access to all.
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