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Old 07-24-2011, 01:24 AM   #16
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I'm sure she meant spoken languages. The HP books are available in a huge range of languages including, for example, Welsh, Latin, and ancient Greek.
What about Klingon?

Sorry, I just have to wonder about some people.
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:04 AM   #17
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I have both the Latin and Ancient Greek editions. They are both extremely well written.
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:59 AM   #18
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The biggest problem is that the mobi format doesn't support images with text flowing around it, so you lose some of character of the original books. Mobi doesn't even support something as simple as a drop cap.
Forget fancy stuff like images and drop caps. Mobi doesn't even support something as basic as a hanging indent!


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I have both the Latin and Ancient Greek editions. They are both extremely well written.
If the Latin version were translated properly, they'd change the words in the spells to use garbled Etruscan .
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:25 AM   #19
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Forget fancy stuff like images and drop caps. Mobi doesn't even support something as basic as a hanging indent!
It does, actually. The code:

<p width="-1em">

will give you a hanging indent of 1em on the paragraph.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:24 PM   #20
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Harry, do the Latin and Ancient Greek editions use the hanging indent properly?
Because if they don't, I'm not going to bother buying them.
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If the Latin version were translated properly, they'd change the words in the spells to use garbled Etruscan .
Hell yeah I think you're right about that.
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:14 PM   #22
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I've read a lot about this, and I am hoping Amazon goes ePUB. Not a slam dunk, but I think it the more likely course.

Here's a few things that I think are factual, from what I can garner.

Rowling said no DRM on the books.
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/...rmore-details/

Books are via Google Books (obviously), making them ePub.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388789,00.asp

Books are sold exclusively through Pottermore, Google can't even sell them on their site.
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/...rmore-details/

Pottermore sells the books, and purchases are through Google Checkout.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388789,00.asp

Google did not say that the arrangement was exclusive.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388789,00.asp

Amazon has said they are "working closely with Pottermore to make sure Kindle customers will be able to buy and read J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter books."
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-a...ble-on-kindle/

Again, I'm pretty sure those are all facts. The PC Mag article saying that Google did not claim exclusive rights was ambiguous. Is it non-exclusive rights to Google Books, or Google Checkout? If it's the former, then Amazon may be able to license .mobi versions. However, PCMag implies the latter, meaning you could pay through Amazon Marketplace or something; that has no effect whatsoever on format, just payment option.

So it basically boils down to this: if Google Books has exclusive rights to the books, Amazon has to support ePUB. If not, Amazon can make a deal for a .mobi version.

I am sincerely hoping that Amazon is pushed in to ePUB. It's not like that'll be hard. They could either pay ADE licensing, or buy up an existing iPad/iPod 3rd Party ePUB reader. Or they could bite the bullet and develop their own.

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Old 07-25-2011, 01:44 AM   #23
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Harry, do the Latin and Ancient Greek editions use the hanging indent properly?
Because if they don't, I'm not going to bother buying them.
Can you give an example of where the HP books use hanging indents, and I'll look.
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Old 07-25-2011, 02:21 AM   #24
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If no-DRM is a requirement then no need for ADE as well. Amazon could simply sell non-DRM mobi through their site. I don't think that format is important in this case as HP books have simple formatting. The real benefit could come from accepting DRM-less publishing.
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If no-DRM is a requirement then no need for ADE as well. Amazon could simply sell non-DRM mobi through their site. I don't think that format is important in this case as HP books have simple formatting. The real benefit could come from accepting DRM-less publishing.
Amazon already do sell DRM-free books. Whether or not a book has DRM at Amazon is purely down to the publisher.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:17 AM   #26
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It does, actually. The code:

<p width="-1em">

will give you a hanging indent of 1em on the paragraph.
Not in a useful manner:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=142664
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:27 AM   #27
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I do not know of any book sellers currently selling foreign, non-enligh books however I ahve an old pal that has taken up making his own foriegn languege editions of the boosk he reads. He downloads the books he buys from Barns and Nobels, removes the DRM then loads them in Open Office which he then uses to translate to his native languege. Its a long step but in his mind it is necessary since the end result is in his native languege.
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Can you give an example of where the HP books use hanging indents, and I'll look.
Chamber of Secrets, chapter 6, page 78 of the UK children's paperback:
"54. When is Gilderoy Lockhart's birthday, and what would his ideal gift be?"

But it's true that these are rare, though she uses a lot of extracted text.
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As the OP of that thread, I have to point out that a basic hanging indent is quite possible (and consistent across various devices/apps). It's hanging indents combined with paragraphs that already have an increased left margin (blockquote element) that gets weird. Everything has it's quirks. I wish ADE would properly handle smallcaps.
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Amazon already do sell DRM-free books. Whether or not a book has DRM at Amazon is purely down to the publisher.
Sure but most big publishers probably chose to use DRM out of tradition. HP books could lead as an example that DRM is a pointless thing.
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