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Old 12-11-2009, 07:29 AM   #1
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The Usenet community FTD allows its nearly half a million members to discuss and report the location of material they find on Usenet, without explicitly linking to copyrighted content. The operators of the site see no harm in what they do, but according to Dutch anti-piracy organization BREIN, online communities should not be entitled to allow these kinds of discussions on their websites.

Talking about copyrighted content on Usenet is illegal they argue, and BREIN wants FTD to be shut down for allowing this. The newsgroup community, however, is not prepared to tolerate BREIN’s accusations and has decided to take action. Earlier this year FTD took BREIN to court, demanding that it should retract its numerous statements that FTD operates illegally.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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BREIN is braindead...

Ask any Dutch person (except people who work for BREIN, naturally) and you'll most likely get the same answer...
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how does that compare to Dutch Freedom of Speech Laws?
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:57 PM   #4
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how does that compare to Dutch Freedom of Speech Laws?
Somehow BREIN (which means brain in Dutch, and that's about all the brain it has, Kuik (the boss) has none...) thinks they are above the law...
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:01 PM   #5
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does it have any teeth? anything to be concerned about?
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If there's freedom of speech, then people are entitled to speak about banning people from speaking about piracy.
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If there's freedom of speech, then people are entitled to speak about banning people from speaking about piracy.
Too bad idiocy isn't illegal...

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This might not be exactly true (your statement). I mean even though you have freedom of speech you still can't legally say for example : "Kill the damn Jews !" or something like that, because you're incouraging a violation of someone else's rights (to live). By the same principle calling for a ban on speaking about piracy is incouraging a violation of someone else's rights (to free speech) and should therefor be a crime (not saying the two are equal in magnitude of course).
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First rule of piracy is: you do NOT talk about piracy.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:42 PM   #10
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Old 05-27-2011, 03:27 AM   #12
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BREIN is braindead...

Ask any Dutch person (except people who work for BREIN, naturally) and you'll most likely get the same answer...

Mind you, all Dutch copyright agencies are braindead. There is one agency that wants us to pay for having a scanner/copier/all-in-one printer because we could use it to copy something that is copyrighted. There are agencies that want bands to pay for copyright when they put their own music or video on their website. The usual excuse is that the money goes to the artists who lose out money because of illegal copying but the never get anything or very little.
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FTD wasn't people talking about piracy it was people posting pirate stuff on usenet and then telling everyone where it was. It stood for "For The Dutch" but we had a different word for the F because they used to flood their crap in every group whether it fit there or not.
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Too bad idiocy isn't illegal...

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This might not be exactly true (your statement). I mean even though you have freedom of speech you still can't legally say for example : "Kill the damn Jews !" or something like that, because you're incouraging a violation of someone else's rights (to live). By the same principle calling for a ban on speaking about piracy is incouraging a violation of someone else's rights (to free speech) and should therefor be a crime (not saying the two are equal in magnitude of course).
I believe that proving that someone is wrong/right about "Kill the damn Jews!" is less harmful that not letting them speak out their mind, and let the keep thinking that "Kill the damn Jews!" is "alright/wrong".
Avoiding the discussion is not healthy in anyway, even if the subject being censored is something illicit or illegal.
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Avoiding the discussion is not healthy in anyway, even if the subject being censored is something illicit or illegal.
Isn't than known as criminal conspiracy?
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