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Old 04-24-2011, 11:43 AM   #31
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they themselves stole that idea from Bell Labs
Actually, they may have stolen it from Xerox PARC. Xerox used to do some interesting stuff once upon a time (they may even be responsible for the invention of eInk); they just don't want to market anything but copiers.

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Old 04-24-2011, 01:29 PM   #32
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Wow, that's a good first post... repeat hoary old cliche and start another manufacturer slag off, a useful contribution to the discussion...

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This is the way Apple does business. They claim they invented everything (rounded corners already?). Many years ago they sued someone (probably Microsoft) over the use of a mouse; of course, they themselves stole that idea from Bell Labs. Never have and never will buy an Apple product.
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Old 04-24-2011, 06:10 PM   #33
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Ah, the old hoary cliche of welcoming someone new by attacking their first post; always a useful contribution to the discussion.

NNolan: I think you're right about it originally being Xerox PARC; I stand corrected.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:08 PM   #34
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But obviously not new to forum posting... and yes, mouse seen at PARC originally when given tour of ops and shown ridiculously overpriced STAR...




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NNolan: I think you're right about it originally being Xerox PARC; I stand corrected.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:23 PM   #35
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This is the way Apple does business. They claim they invented everything (rounded corners already?). Many years ago they sued someone (probably Microsoft) over the use of a mouse; of course, they themselves stole that idea from Bell Labs. Never have and never will buy an Apple product.
If you're not going to buy a product from a company that sues another company for patent infringement, you won't be buying many products.

Apple didn't sue MS for the mouse (nor did Xerox Parc invent the mouse, although they used a particular version); there was already a (small) company manufacturing mice in 1975.
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If you're not going to buy a product from a company that sues another company for patent infringement, you won't be buying many products.

Apple didn't sue MS for the mouse (nor did Xerox Parc invent the mouse, although they used a particular version); there was already a (small) company manufacturing mice in 1975.
http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa081898.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_(computing)
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In all honesty the only winners in this are the shyster lawyers who are very content to play this ludicrous game as lawsuits mean money for them
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:37 PM   #38
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In all honesty the only winners in this are the shyster lawyers who are very content to play this ludicrous game as lawsuits mean money for them
Sorry, no.

Companies make billions from patent suits and cross licensing agreements that result from them. It's how the industry works.

Apple wouldn't have brought the suit if they didn't think that they would benefit from it. They weren't tricked into it.
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