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Old 04-20-2011, 04:59 PM   #106
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No Kindle is Blu-Ray - The least used format that was proprietry,
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Look who won.
Heh. And here I was thinking of a Betamax vs. VHS metaphor...

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Old 04-20-2011, 05:00 PM   #107
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CRussel, agreed! I'm in that process now. MY wish is to not need to do it. When I bought a CD for my Sony CD player I didn't need to convert it in order to play it on my Denon CD player. Reason why? Common format.
I think we all wish that we didn't have to do that. Until that day comes, I am doing what I can to make sure I can access my books if I choose to change ereaders.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:18 PM   #108
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Until that day comes, I am doing what I can to make sure I can access my books if I choose to change ereaders.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:50 PM   #109
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So there will be no epub support on kindle then?
Are libraries really going to repurchase all their ebooks in azw?
That seems like a really huge expense.

Maybe I missed it, but is this US only?
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:56 PM   #110
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So there will be no epub support on kindle then?
Are libraries really going to repurchase all their ebooks in azw?
That seems like a really huge expense.

Maybe I missed it, but is this US only?
It's not currently known how this will be implemented. Maybe Amazon is adding epub support; maybe they're sending their own ebook files through OverDrive's DRM system; maybe it's something else. We'll just have to wait and see.

Libraries will not be required to purchase azw specific licenses according to this announcement to libraries from OverDrive:
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Your existing collection of downloadable eBooks will be available to Kindle customers. As you add new eBooks to your collection, those titles will also be available in Kindle format for lending to Kindle and Kindle reading apps. Your library will not need to purchase any additional units to have Kindle compatibility. This will work for your existing copies and units.
Yes, for now, this is U.S. only.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:01 PM   #111
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Totally agree. Is it just me, or does it seem that it's only the consumers that get screwed.

I'm ticked because I thought I made an intelligent decision to buy an epub reader, and now I have a corporation changing the rules so that it may not have been the best decision after all.
Who changed the rules and what rule did they change?
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:16 PM   #112
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So there will be no epub support on kindle then?
Are libraries really going to repurchase all their ebooks in azw?
That seems like a really huge expense.

Maybe I missed it, but is this US only?
It's my understanding that libraries won't have to repurchase e-books. As for if it's U.S. only, I would imagine that, like most changes Amazon makes with the way Kindle works, it'll be rolled out to the U.S. customers first, and to the rest of the world later (e.g., how they handled the lending feature).
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:20 PM   #113
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I was at my library today (my contrarian 13yo daughter prefers DTBs) (aren't all 13yo girls contrary?).

I wrote them a check with the stipulation that it be used for ebooks. The head librarian was fine with that.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:54 PM   #114
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Yep! My next eink device will be a Kindle. *gasp* Can't wait to see if a new Kindle will appear at the end of the year.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:59 PM   #115
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I think we all wish that we didn't have to do that. Until that day comes, I am doing what I can to make sure I can access my books if I choose to change ereaders.
Exactly. Though I think of this as simple backups to prevent loss. I'd do that regardless, but in this case it requires an extra step to ensure it can be read wherever. I'm OK with that.

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CRussel, agreed! I'm in that process now. MY wish is to not need to do it. When I bought a CD for my Sony CD player I didn't need to convert it in order to play it on my Denon CD player. Reason why? Common format.
Even when impulse buying gets me to download immediately from Amazon (and it does happen), I always connect up to Calibre at the earliest opportunity and convert.

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And your efforts to make that easier are very much appreciated. Very much.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:26 PM   #116
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Oh no. HarperCollins is going to claim that electronic books wear out much faster when people are using them for Kindling. Libraries will have to buy them again after two loans now.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:05 PM   #117
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It's my understanding that libraries won't have to repurchase e-books. As for if it's U.S. only, I would imagine that, like most changes Amazon makes with the way Kindle works, it'll be rolled out to the U.S. customers first, and to the rest of the world later (e.g., how they handled the lending feature).
yep. that's usually how they do it.
it'll be interesting to see how this works. hopefully they add epub support.
that, with the ability to borrow library books, would be a double win for amazon.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:11 PM   #118
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yep. that's usually how they do it.
it'll be interesting to see how this works. hopefully they add epub support.
that, with the ability to borrow library books, would be a double win for amazon.
I doubt they'll add ePub support. My understanding is that OverDrive is going to be handling the lending/licensing, so that when you borrow a title, you'll get fed whatever format you need, whether it's ePub or PDF.
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It's not currently known how this will be implemented. Maybe Amazon is adding epub support; maybe they're sending their own ebook files through OverDrive's DRM system; maybe it's something else.
Given that bookmarks and annotations will migrate to a purchased copy of the same ebook, the lending library version must be identical to the Kindle store version (i.e. AZW or TOPAZ, not ePub). So my guess is that OverDrive will give you a ticket that the Kindle Store redeems. That is already the way that Adobe DRM redemption works after all.
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No Kindle is Blu-Ray - The least used format that was proprietry,
HD-DVD - Epub. the universal format.

Look who won.
The technologically more advanced high definition DVD format won.

ePub is the technologically advanced format. You do the math.
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