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Sony PRS-650 | 53 | 42.06% | |
Nook | 10 | 7.94% | |
Kobo | 11 | 8.73% | |
Kindle 3 | 46 | 36.51% | |
Other (Please post and let me know which eBook reader) | 6 | 4.76% | |
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12-07-2010, 01:44 AM | #76 | |
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12-07-2010, 07:40 AM | #77 |
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Some people don't want to strip DRM for one reason or another. Others feel they have a libertarian imperative TO strip it whether it were needed or not. Others could not care one way or the other. I don't think you have any justification for the "most cases." "Some cases" is a given. Saying "Most," just as saying that the NookColor is superior, is wrongly foisting your personal opinion and preferences as is if it were some sort of objective fact.
(Having played with the NookColor this week, I can say with certainly, that _I_ found it to be thoroughly inferior to the Kindle for MY needs in several key areas. Not the least of which was that several of the books that the B&N store had loaded to demo generated an error message when I tried to open them and the store rep had to work to get it to work at all. Maybe after a few firmware updates and price drops. Oh...but then it'll still have that awful backlit glaring LCD screen, extra weight and no easy access to buying books in the SUPERIOR Amazon store.) ApK Last edited by ApK; 12-07-2010 at 08:23 AM. |
12-07-2010, 09:02 AM | #78 | |
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I think you are totally missing the point to a certain degree, yes it can be possible to put library books on the Kindle, but yes it's also true that you can actually run an Android OS on an iPhone as well. the point is the Kindle does not natively support ePub and Yes you DO have to strip DRM while the rest of us don't have to go through that. And also you speak of it as if it's second nature to everyone to strip DRM. It's not, alot of people just don't know how to do it nor whether or not they SHOULD do it. I enjoy home audio and video for a hobby. I can get a home theater up and running likes it's second nature, does that mean it's second nature for everyone else? Simple question can you easily ( no extra steps), legally and ethically download books from the library on to a Kindle? The answer is simply no you can not. As far as the Amazon's superior bookstore? LOL it's time to update your information, Amazon no longer has this huge advantage in selection and price anymore, in fact not for quite a few months now. Did they a year or two years ago? sure they did. But BN caught up in a HUGE way and now that the Publishers are pretty much driving the prices on ebooks (thanks Apple) Amazon's price advantage has whittled away as well. You see us who own a Nook, Kobo, a Sony etc. we can shop freely where we want, when we want at a pluthera of bookstores. Yes you guys have mobi (does anyone even use that anymore?) You Kindle owner have to sneak behind Big Daddy's back and do some things that just may not be the most ethical tatics to get other books. My question is if you live in the US why even buy a Kindle anymore, nothing adventagous, in fact its more of a ball and chain. Last edited by boswd; 12-07-2010 at 09:07 AM. |
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12-07-2010, 09:22 AM | #79 | ||
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Legally, sure. Some place have no laws on the topic at all, some places are working on laws to ensure that is legally protected, and even in the US, while some claim the DCMA makes it illegal, there are many legal experts who say it does not. It has, AFAIK, not been tested. Ethically, as I said, up to the individual. Last edited by ApK; 12-07-2010 at 10:40 AM. |
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12-07-2010, 09:27 AM | #80 | |
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Apart from legal issues (which appear debatable), if you borrow an ebook from the library, it's hard for me to see any ethical reason that prevents me from reading it on the device of my choice. The device seems... or should be... irrelevant to the issue. IMHO, of course. If I borrow an audio book, does anyone care if I listen on a Toshiba or Sony or <you name it> device? For us common 'taters, it's hard to see where using the reading device of choice becomes an ethical issue. As regards your last point, I suspect there are many like me who prefer a real KB to a virtual KB. And others who prefer touch screens. So what does living in the US have to do with buying anything but Kindle? (babK) |
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12-07-2010, 09:29 AM | #81 | |
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And also If I was an avid note taker and annotation person, I can see where the physical keyboard would be easier to use than a virtual one on the nook. On the flip side, it just is easier to get books from the library and other stores than it is on the kindle (as easy as it is for a tech savvy person such as yourself) not everyone is in the same level nor wants to be bothered as well. So for general reading , library lending and looking for the best deals across the net, then the nook would be a better fit. Both offer a great homebase platform for wireless downloading and apps across multiple devices etc. So to me in my needs that's a wash. Well Happy Holidays. Last edited by boswd; 12-07-2010 at 09:31 AM. |
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12-07-2010, 09:34 AM | #82 | |
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you are right it's not the device that is in question, Im sure Overdrive would welcome Amazon with open arms, but the question comes into play is the fact that you are actuallly altering copyright protected Intellecual Property that does not belong to you. That's the issue at hand. I mentioned living in the US because BN doesn't have the best international support as of yet., So if you lived in Italy etc a Sony or a kindle would be a better choice. Last edited by boswd; 12-07-2010 at 09:36 AM. |
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12-07-2010, 10:12 AM | #83 | |
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The books I wanted were not available at B&N or Kobo or Sony the few times the books I wanted that were not avialable at Amazon. So this supposed greatness of multiple stores really does not pan out for me. I have seen more then one person on this board comment that they bought a Kindle because they could not find the books they want else where and they were not comfortable with stripping DRM. As a matter of fact, that was just posted on again today. The other bookstores may be catching up but they are not there yet. The real point, for me, is that Amazon's selection is the best around and I can find what I want, when I want it easily enough. I don't have to go shopping at other stores because Amazon has it and if Amazon doesn't have it I have yet to find it at the other stores. Which means that this great flexibility sounds wonderful on paper but really doesn't seem to mean much in practice. Just like the SD card slot and the removable battery. |
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12-07-2010, 12:53 PM | #84 | |
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So no, the Kindle is not reading epub library books unless you are a hacker. And I use hacker in the loving 1980s sense of the word that describes me as well. Additionally for those of us who don't want to carry even a tiny second device to play music, it is very nice to have SD card on my ereader. Considering that Amazon (aka Kindle) bought Audible and promotes their support for Audio Books, you would think that an SD card expansion slot would be a no-brainer. |
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12-07-2010, 01:54 PM | #85 |
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Comparing the Nook Color and Ipad to the Kindle or Nook is comparing Apples and Oranges. They do very different things and fill a very different need.
I prefer an e-reader that I can read easily and that has a long battery life. If I want something to watch videos on, work on a word document, play video games, and listen to music, I'll use my netbook or I'll buy a tablet. My MP3 player fits into my pants pocket easy enough. Heck, the latest Nano can be clipped onto your shirt, coat, belt loop. And my e-reader and MP3 player both have way longer battery life then your tablet. This makes me very happy. If I had a K3 I would be able to say that my e-reader and MP3 player weighs less then your tablet but I like the bigger screen on my DXG. So even if I wanted a tablet, the Nook Color would be too small for my liking. |
12-07-2010, 05:19 PM | #86 |
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12-08-2010, 03:13 PM | #87 |
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12-09-2010, 03:32 AM | #88 | |
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Having said that and if you are in Canada, I think Amazon Kindle will fulfill your needs. Forget about epub format. I had a Nook, sold now. It's an awesome device but B&N epub books are DRM protected so you will end in a similar "close format" situation to Amazon Kindle vs AZW format. Think about Kindle 3 as 1st option, then Nook. PS: by the way, Kindle 3 supports PDFs in native format. You can also use it landscape mode or even zoom some portions of your documents, which right now is not possible with Nook and 1.5 firmware version. I know this by experience, not word of mouth or internet. Last edited by jocampo; 12-09-2010 at 03:38 AM. |
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12-09-2010, 04:50 AM | #89 | |
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I didn't want to be tied to Amazon. Sony PRS-650 enables me to do that. |
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12-09-2010, 08:46 AM | #90 | |
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Kindle, Nook and Sony have basically same decent e-ink display and screen, actually, and based on something I read recently, screen parts come from same manufacturing company so we are not talking about huge differences here. Kindles do not limit or force users to buy on Amazon stores only, so saying the device will be tied to Amazon is not correct. The limit is imposed by the users when buying DRM protected books. I do have hundreds (and legal) unprotected MOBI books on my new Kindle. True, but what is the e-library supporting your Device? at least you have B&N and Amazon online store with Nook and Kindle. You will basically have to buy from B&N which again, overall stock and prices are not better than Amazon and books are not DRM protection free. One of Sony PRS-650 drawbacks is that does not allow you changing line-spacing, margins, font type, not without adding fonts or altering the CSS ebook file and that's an important option(s) when reading pure text only books; you can do that with the Kindle without user intervention or extra hacking. Also, you paid more than $200 and not even wifi, you kidding me? |
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