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Old 11-22-2010, 06:31 PM   #1
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nook 1.5 and shelves

I'm aware that 1.5 just came out, but any thoughts on how/if Calibre will be able to sync shelves, or even make shelves?
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:04 PM   #2
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Hmm. Great idea. On my old Sony it put them into collections based on tags. Maybe something similar could be done.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:34 PM   #3
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I would love for this feature to make it soon.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:09 AM   #4
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It's times like this that I realize just how much I value Kovid's work on Calibre. It's like, "I've got this great new feature on the Nook...and I don't even want to mess with it until I see how it'll work with Calibre!"

Kovid, you are appreciated!
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:31 AM   #5
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Currently, my Nook is on loan to a friend so I cannot research this feature. But if someone with a nook can describe how it is implemented that may be sufficient to get started on it in calibre.

Look for some sort of file on the Nook (probably an XML, JSON or SQLITE file) using windows explorer that specifies the books in each shelf. Then try making changes to that file using a text editor and see if the changes show up when you disconnect the Nook.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:25 PM   #6
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Well I got my nook back and there appears to be no way to read or write the shelves using a USB connection, so I'm afraid you're stuck doing it one-by-one on the Nook itself.

I wish B&N had decided to imitate SONY rather than Amazon.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:47 PM   #7
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appears to be no way to read or write the shelves using a USB connection, so I'm afraid you're stuck doing it one-by-one on the Nook itself.

Bummer! Thanks for checking this out for us....it would have been fantastic to avoid the one by one thing.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:24 PM   #8
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Thanks for checking on this for us

Looks like I am going to be selling or returning my nook now. I just enjoy the sony series setup entirely too much to give it up.

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Old 11-23-2010, 08:01 PM   #9
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:42 PM   #10
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Thanks for checking on this, Kovid. I guess I'm now waiting for the guys at NookDevs to update the softroot.

I wonder how the Nook does store that information?
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:44 PM   #11
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If you are going to copy a feature of a competitor, pick the better implementation.

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Old 11-23-2010, 11:43 PM   #12
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Thanks for checking on this for us

Looks like I am going to be selling or returning my nook now. I just enjoy the sony series setup entirely too much to give it up.

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Go with the softroot, calibre, trook, and calibretoopds. You get navigation on the nook that's way better than anything Sony has yet provided. In fact, I switched from Sony to Nook just to get access to this combination -- my entire eLibrary, on my nook, with usable navigation (and series and book info, and coverflow, and...). You just don't get it through B&N's original software.
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Go with the softroot, calibre, trook, and calibretoopds. You get navigation on the nook that's way better than anything Sony has yet provided. In fact, I switched from Sony to Nook just to get access to this combination -- my entire eLibrary, on my nook, with usable navigation (and series and book info, and coverflow, and...). You just don't get it through B&N's original software.
Have you tried the 650 yet? If you have not, I suggest you do so. It's a lot nicer then the 600 & 700 for navigation. And you do not have to hack it either.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:18 PM   #14
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Is this really the end of this story? Isn't the really any way to make these shelves visible in such a way that they can be used in Calibre (which I DO think is absolutely brilliant)? Because for those of us with large ebook collections, doing this manually really isn't an option. I don't know much about these things, but can somebody explain to me why it isn't possible to 'reverse engineer' things - if we know what things look like before we add shelves; and we know what they look like after we add them, can't the difference be exploited to find out how the firmware deals with this? Thanks,

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There is no difference. The changes happen in a part of the nook that is not exposed to the USB connection.

If you care about on device collections, I would suggest selling your Nook and getting a SONY.

EDIT: Of course I could be wrong and someone might discover a way to manipulate collections. If that happens, feel free to re-open the thread.
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