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Old 11-19-2007, 09:33 AM   #1
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Kindle Edition != Mobipocket?

So I'm looking through Amazon's store at their Kindle Edition books. I like the pricing on them (I'm a cheap bastard ). But I have to register my "Kindle" to buy it or even view the free sample. I thought I had read that the Kindle uses the Mobipocket format.

Why would Amazon create yet another incompatible DRM format? Has anyone been able to get a Kindle edition book to test with?
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:37 AM   #2
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Well, hope is still somewhere. I see two (rather unlikely but optimistic) good versions and one pessimistic, but propable version:

1. They continue selling via Mobipocket and sell their Kindle-Books there too
2. They start selling Kindle-Books to "normal eReaders"
3. They will sell Kindle-Books only to Kindle-Users (and only in the US for the next two years).
I like Amazon - but that would seriously piss me off.
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Kindle's User Guide in ".AZW Kindle Format". The file IS Mobipocket format (rename it to .mobi).
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:49 AM   #4
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From the manul:
Supported filetypes:

• Kindle (.AZW)
• Text (.TXT)
• Unprotected Mobipocket (.MOBI, .PRC)
• Audible (.AA)
• MP3 (.MP3)
Tip: Mobipocket files must have no Digital Rights Management (DRM) protection
applied to be readable on your Kindle. If you purchased a Mobipocket file from a
Mobipocket retailer, you will not be able to open the file on your Kindle.

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That answears this question ...
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:51 AM   #5
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does not sound too promising...but if .azw is .mobi...
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:56 AM   #6
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Sounds like the super proprietary Amazon mobipocket we all feared.
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Sounds like the super proprietary Amazon mobipocket we all feared.
It sounds like they also won't be selling them directly to anyone who doesn't own a Kindle, either. I'm hoping at least the titles make it to Mobipocket sellers even if the price is a little higher.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:59 AM   #8
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This really, really sucks. Amazon is locking buyers in. Thats what i hate about Apple. Well, time to buy books anywhere but amazon.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:01 AM   #9
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Oh well - should make our Mobi downloads more popular, at least .

I would GUESS (and a guess is all it is) that the Kindle is a standard DRM-encoded Mobi file, and that the sales mechanism will encode it for the user's registered device automatically. IF that's the case, and IF the Mobi PID is accessible somehow, that would let Kindle owners buy other Mobi books. What it will NOT do, of course, is allow non-Kindle-owners to buy Kindle books.
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Do you read it to say that you can only buy the Kindle book from the Kindle device itself?
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Okay, I answered my own question:

1-Click to order your Kindle Edition. Your purchase will be sent automatically and wirelessly to the Kindle via Amazon Whispernet. No cables, no computer, no syncing.
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Do you read it to say that you can only buy the Kindle book from the Kindle device itself?
You can only buy Kindle ebooks if you have a Kindle.
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You can buy books using PC, but you need to have a Kindle registered to your account.
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You can buy books using PC, but you need to have a Kindle registered to your account.
But you cannot download them to your PC only get them transferred via Whispernet. Am i right?
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Unless the Kindle encrypts the PID when they send it to the site, use a WEP wireless connection and with another wireless computer watch the stream as you register your Kindle and then see if any of the packets contain the PID. Then if there is a way to get the books off the Kindle, you'll have the PID.

Now, what I want to know is will Kindle books have images that are Kindle screen sized instead of PDA sized?
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