Which one?

Ancalagon · 11-14-2007, 09:54 AM

First of all, sorry about my english. I'm here to ask for help. I'm interested to buy a device that allow me to read e-bbok, PDF in first place. I had found 2 model that I think can be good for my intention. The fist one is iLiad of IRex. It's beautiful, and the Wacon pen ... the only thing that I dislike is battery. I had read that I can read no more than 5 or 6 hour. This is a bad point for iLiad. The good thing is that I can write notes on my pdf like chracters profile, how is how and notes. The second one is CyBook 3 (Bookeen). 300 euro, e-book reader only. But the battery? Now, what I0m searching is a device that allow me to read e-book, but I must be sure for battery. 6h is nothing in a travel in train. At least 12.

I know that iLiad us a LinuxOS, and this is e great point for this device because I LOVE linux! So, if you have some idea of what device can be good for me, I'll be greatfull to thank you.

DaleDe · 11-14-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon

First of all, sorry about my english. I'm here to ask for help. I'm interested to buy a device that allow me to read e-bbok, PDF in first place. I had found 2 model that I think can be good for my intention. The fist one is iLiad of IRex. It's beautiful, and the Wacon pen ... the only thing that I dislike is battery. I had read that I can read no more than 5 or 6 hour. This is a bad point for iLiad. The good thing is that I can write notes on my pdf like chracters profile, how is how and notes. The second one is CyBook 3 (Bookeen). 300 euro, e-book reader only. But the battery? Now, what I0m searching is a device that allow me to read e-book, but I must be sure for battery. 6h is nothing in a travel in train. At least 12.

I know that iLiad us a LinuxOS, and this is e great point for this device because I LOVE linux! So, if you have some idea of what device can be good for me, I'll be greatfull to thank you.

If you are only interested in PDF then iLiad is the best available. The typical PDF is page oriented and needs a large screen. The iLiad has must better battery life in the new version 2 device. It will do what you want while traveling on a train.

Both iLIad and CyBook use Linux but at this time only iLiad lets you get to the OS level and do Linux things.

Dale

igorsk · 11-14-2007, 12:35 PM

Sony Reader runs Linux too.

Ancalagon · 11-14-2007, 12:54 PM

I'm interested in e-book in general but most of my manuals or book are in PDF format. I had found some page on the net where some user of iLiad say that the battery has a poor life, somethig like 5 o 6 hour. Some person say that 60% iLiad have a problem whit wiFi and suck all the battery... I happy to read that is some software for iLiad... but I'm unsure

tribble · 11-14-2007, 01:11 PM

The iLiad 2.0 should at least give you 10 hours. Up to 15 if you are just reading.
WiFi works fine as long as you dont need special encryption. It works with WEP and WPA TKIP2.

And it has the largest screen available, and is the only device that can zoom into PDFs so far.

CyBook and Sony are smaller, but their battery lasts much longer. So it mainly depends on your needs

wallcraft · 11-14-2007, 01:19 PM

The latest iLiad's have a larger battery, which lasts at least 10-12 hours.

Note that no current E-Ink device will read Adobe secure e-books. The Sony PRS-505 MIGHT be able to read these when the announced Adobe Digital Editions software upgrade becomes available.

Adobe's own PDF reader also no longer reads e-books, so if Adobe Reader version 8 (e.g. on Windows) can't read your documents then neither can the iLiad.

Ancalagon · 11-14-2007, 01:23 PM

How moch life had a CyBook or a Sony reader?

NatCh · 11-14-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon

How moch life had a CyBook or a Sony reader?

The new Sony PRS505's battery goes 2~3 weeks without a charge, I think the Cybook Gen3 is similar.

tribble · 11-14-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon

How moch life had a CyBook or a Sony reader?

You can measure in weeks

My CyBook is loosing about 20% battery in 24hours, if i leave the autoshutdown function off, but thats just an estimate. Havent had it long enough yet.

tompe · 11-14-2007, 01:29 PM

With the autoshutdown function off and the reader on the whole time my Cybook lasted 5 days.

Ancalagon · 11-14-2007, 01:41 PM

So... iLiad is a tresure, of what I had seen is beautiful. The bad thing is battery, only 10hour. I mean, is not bad, I shall not read every day 10 hours, but if I read 3 hour today and knowing that tomorrow I shall go out whit friend in a travel of 6 hour... so... CyBook3 or Sony. Now this is the question. I know where I can find CyBook3, for Sony I hadn't look yet. Between this two... why I must prefer one from another? Batteryu here isn't a problem. And now... WHICH ONE?

DaleDe · 11-14-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon

So... iLiad is a tresure, of what I had seen is beautiful. The bad thing is battery, only 10hour. I mean, is not bad, I shall not read every day 10 hours, but if I read 3 hour today and knowing that tomorrow I shall go out whit friend in a travel of 6 hour... so... CyBook3 or Sony. Now this is the question. I know where I can find CyBook3, for Sony I hadn't look yet. Between this two... why I must prefer one from another? Batteryu here isn't a problem. And now... WHICH ONE?

You have already been told all of the data. You will have to decide for yourself. iLiad is more like 15 hours if you are careful by the way.

Dale

JSWolf · 11-15-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon

So... iLiad is a tresure, of what I had seen is beautiful. The bad thing is battery, only 10hour. I mean, is not bad, I shall not read every day 10 hours, but if I read 3 hour today and knowing that tomorrow I shall go out whit friend in a travel of 6 hour... so... CyBook3 or Sony. Now this is the question. I know where I can find CyBook3, for Sony I hadn't look yet. Between this two... why I must prefer one from another? Batteryu here isn't a problem. And now... WHICH ONE?

Since you plan to purchase an eink based device for primarily reading PDF, then you will be very unhappy with both the 505 and the Gen3. The 6" screen is not all that good for PDF reading without using a program such as pdflrf to enhance the PDF. The iLiad is really your only choice.

nekokami · 11-15-2007, 09:00 AM

The battery problems you heard about on the iLiad (5-6 hours) were fixed with a software patch. The wifi was turning on when it should not.

I get about 12 hours per charge with my first version iLiad (old, smaller battery). I think 15 hours with the new battery is a good estimate. If you want to be able to make notes on your PDFs you really need the iLiad.

If you want to see what the screens will look like, try cutting holes in cardboard to match the screen size. Put the hole over an A4 page. This is how much text you will be able to see. Try photocopying the page to reduce size until it fits the rectangle. Are you happy with the result? If so, you can buy that size screen.

The iLiad has the best support for PDF right now, with zoom, pan, and continuous pages, and the largest screen.

Ancalagon · 11-16-2007, 11:51 AM

I had think about it... and is true. I'm a little afraid about battery of iLiad but CyBook and SonyReader have both a small display. So, I shall buy an iLiad. I'm almost sure but I have some question about take notes and other things.

1. The motes for me is a good thing because when I read a book biger than 1000 pages where I find a lots od characters I take always notes about how-is-how. So, can i jump between my e-book and notes whitout problems? I mean, I need a sort of "paper" where I write that Bob is brother of Sam, Jane is the mother of Minni. Maibe I can write it directly in the book, don't know.

2. I love reading, but I love write too, so iLiad is a good thing another time =). But, in which format the notes are saved? JPEG? Can I transfer the notes on pc and read it?

3. I really don't know if this is possible, but, can I convert my notes (handfree) in a regular font? Why this question. In a page I had seen some picture, whitout explanation, where I had seen a document on the left in handfree taken from iLiad and on the right the same word and text in arial.

11-14-2007, 09:54 AM	#1
Ancalagon Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	Which one? First of all, sorry about my english. I'm here to ask for help. I'm interested to buy a device that allow me to read e-bbok, PDF in first place. I had found 2 model that I think can be good for my intention. The fist one is iLiad of IRex. It's beautiful, and the Wacon pen ... the only thing that I dislike is battery. I had read that I can read no more than 5 or 6 hour. This is a bad point for iLiad. The good thing is that I can write notes on my pdf like chracters profile, how is how and notes. The second one is CyBook 3 (Bookeen). 300 euro, e-book reader only. But the battery? Now, what I0m searching is a device that allow me to read e-book, but I must be sure for battery. 6h is nothing in a travel in train. At least 12. I know that iLiad us a LinuxOS, and this is e great point for this device because I LOVE linux! So, if you have some idea of what device can be good for me, I'll be greatfull to thank you.

11-14-2007, 01:11 PM	#5
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	The iLiad 2.0 should at least give you 10 hours. Up to 15 if you are just reading. WiFi works fine as long as you dont need special encryption. It works with WEP and WPA TKIP2. And it has the largest screen available, and is the only device that can zoom into PDFs so far. CyBook and Sony are smaller, but their battery lasts much longer. So it mainly depends on your needs __________________ justread.de - Die neue Art zu lesen offizieller iRex Reseller für Deutschland

11-14-2007, 01:29 PM	#10
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,505 Karma: 2150615 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Nexus 7, Nexus S, iPad 2, Notion Ink Adam Qi, Kindle WiFi	With the autoshutdown function off and the reader on the whole time my Cybook lasted 5 days. __________________ DRM is EVIL! /Tommy Persson

11-15-2007, 09:00 AM	#14
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	The battery problems you heard about on the iLiad (5-6 hours) were fixed with a software patch. The wifi was turning on when it should not. I get about 12 hours per charge with my first version iLiad (old, smaller battery). I think 15 hours with the new battery is a good estimate. If you want to be able to make notes on your PDFs you really need the iLiad. If you want to see what the screens will look like, try cutting holes in cardboard to match the screen size. Put the hole over an A4 page. This is how much text you will be able to see. Try photocopying the page to reduce size until it fits the rectangle. Are you happy with the result? If so, you can buy that size screen. The iLiad has the best support for PDF right now, with zoom, pan, and continuous pages, and the largest screen. __________________ ~neko “Life is not so short but that there is always time for courtesy.” ~Ralph Waldo Emerson Click here for Ministry of Unutterable Silliness loot -- featuring Rock Lobster Souvenirs! Is an iPad an InfoPad ? What about the Entourage Edge? Hm...

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11-14-2007, 12:35 PM	#3
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,443 Karma: 52235 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Sony Reader runs Linux too.

11-14-2007, 12:54 PM	#4
Ancalagon Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	I'm interested in e-book in general but most of my manuals or book are in PDF format. I had found some page on the net where some user of iLiad say that the battery has a poor life, somethig like 5 o 6 hour. Some person say that 60% iLiad have a problem whit wiFi and suck all the battery... I happy to read that is some software for iLiad... but I'm unsure

11-14-2007, 01:19 PM	#6
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,979 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3 and Fire	The latest iLiad's have a larger battery, which lasts at least 10-12 hours. Note that no current E-Ink device will read Adobe secure e-books. The Sony PRS-505 MIGHT be able to read these when the announced Adobe Digital Editions software upgrade becomes available. Adobe's own PDF reader also no longer reads e-books, so if Adobe Reader version 8 (e.g. on Windows) can't read your documents then neither can the iLiad.

11-14-2007, 01:23 PM	#7
Ancalagon Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	How moch life had a CyBook or a Sony reader?

11-14-2007, 01:41 PM	#11
Ancalagon Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	So... iLiad is a tresure, of what I had seen is beautiful. The bad thing is battery, only 10hour. I mean, is not bad, I shall not read every day 10 hours, but if I read 3 hour today and knowing that tomorrow I shall go out whit friend in a travel of 6 hour... so... CyBook3 or Sony. Now this is the question. I know where I can find CyBook3, for Sony I hadn't look yet. Between this two... why I must prefer one from another? Batteryu here isn't a problem. And now... WHICH ONE?

11-16-2007, 11:51 AM	#15
Ancalagon Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	I had think about it... and is true. I'm a little afraid about battery of iLiad but CyBook and SonyReader have both a small display. So, I shall buy an iLiad. I'm almost sure but I have some question about take notes and other things. 1. The motes for me is a good thing because when I read a book biger than 1000 pages where I find a lots od characters I take always notes about how-is-how. So, can i jump between my e-book and notes whitout problems? I mean, I need a sort of "paper" where I write that Bob is brother of Sam, Jane is the mother of Minni. Maibe I can write it directly in the book, don't know. 2. I love reading, but I love write too, so iLiad is a good thing another time =). But, in which format the notes are saved? JPEG? Can I transfer the notes on pc and read it? 3. I really don't know if this is possible, but, can I convert my notes (handfree) in a regular font? Why this question. In a page I had seen some picture, whitout explanation, where I had seen a document on the left in handfree taken from iLiad and on the right the same word and text in arial.


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