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Old 08-28-2010, 10:26 AM   #1
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Copy/Paste Network Password?

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I should be getting my K3 around Sept 10th and I wanted to know if it had copy/paste. I have a Steve Gibson approved 64 character password for my home network. Does the K3 have copy/paste abilities? I can't imagine typing 64 characters without dedicated number keys.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:46 AM   #2
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Hey,

I should be getting my K3 around Sept 10th and I wanted to know if it had copy/paste. I have a Steve Gibson approved 64 character password for my home network. Does the K3 have copy/paste abilities? I can't imagine typing 64 characters without dedicated number keys.
It can be done, and I did it in one try. They display the last character you typed in so you can always verify you didn't fat finger it. So you'll see "********a" for example.

There are dedicated number keys (ALT plus top row of letters), they just aren't labelled. ALT+QWERTYUIOP => 1234567890. Or you can use SYM table. You'll get the hang of it.
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:13 PM   #4
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I have a Steve Gibson approved 64 character password for my home network.
A complete waste of time. Why cripple your own access to your home network when the chance that someone is actually going to try and wardrive your network is slim to none.

A pass phrase with a mix of upper and lower case, numbers and maybe a symbol or two is far easier to remember and type and no more likely to be cracked.
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A pass phrase with a mix of upper and lower case, numbers and maybe a symbol or two is far easier to remember and type and no more likely to be cracked.
I almost never have to remember my home network pw. Just set it once for each device, then they connect automatically.

A 64-char pw would be a hassle, though, if you couldn't copy and paste it in.
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:02 PM   #6
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A complete waste of time. Why cripple your own access to your home network when the chance that someone is actually going to try and wardrive your network is slim to none.

A pass phrase with a mix of upper and lower case, numbers and maybe a symbol or two is far easier to remember and type and no more likely to be cracked.
Hmmm. 3 laptops, 1 desktop and my iPod Touch are all connected to my network and took seconds to do. Pretty amazing since I crippled it with a really long password....http://cdn0.4dots.com/i/smilies/rolleyes.gif
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Hmmm. 3 laptops, 1 desktop and my iPod Touch are all connected to my network and took seconds to do. Pretty amazing since I crippled it with a really long password....http://cdn0.4dots.com/i/smilies/rolleyes.gif
You cannot copy and paste with the K3, but you can with 3 laptops, 1 desktop and my iPod Touch. Therein lies the difference.

I read a study the other day that said a 12 character PW was about the optimum length. An 8 character one can be cracked with the correct tools in a fairly short time, but statistically a 12 character PW would require a battery of computers working in tandem for years to break. A 64 character PW, though virtually impossible to crack, is over kill. And I bet you have it in a file someplace so you can copy and paste. If you do then it could be 6400 characters long and it will get cracked.
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Old 08-28-2010, 05:35 PM   #8
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A 64 character password does seem a bit excessive, but I'm a bit biased since my network is wide open.

If I secured my wireless network, what would the mail-man and the cable-guy do for internet access on their lunch-breaks??
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Hmmm. 3 laptops, 1 desktop and my iPod Touch are all connected to my network and took seconds to do. Pretty amazing since I crippled it with a really long password....http://cdn0.4dots.com/i/smilies/rolleyes.gif
And when a friend comes over (you do have friends don't you?) and wants to connect his laptop to your wi-fi network, what do you do, e-mail him the password so he can cut and paste it? Oh wait, he's not connected so he can't get the e-mail. I guess you'll have to e-mail it to him in advance. But wait, that would be clear text! Or you could get out the USB drive, plug it into your computer, open a text file, copy the password to that, unplug it, plug it into his laptop, wait for the driver to get installed, open it up, copy and paste it from the text file. Just so he can check his Facebook page? Gee, this is fun!
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Old 08-28-2010, 06:46 PM   #10
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You cannot copy and paste with the K3, but you can with 3 laptops, 1 desktop and my iPod Touch. Therein lies the difference.

I read a study the other day that said a 12 character PW was about the optimum length. An 8 character one can be cracked with the correct tools in a fairly short time, but statistically a 12 character PW would require a battery of computers working in tandem for years to break. A 64 character PW, though virtually impossible to crack, is over kill. And I bet you have it in a file someplace so you can copy and paste. If you do then it could be 6400 characters long and it will get cracked.
I keep it on an unsecured 8" floppy buried at the bottom of my cat's litter box.

Def overkill and there are plenty of open networks in my area but I'll work around it. Thanks for the replies.
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