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O U T D A T E D ----- T H R E A D ----- from 2014
Warning, this thread was stagnant for 4-1/2 years so any data herein is highly questionable and outdated now since streaming has changed quite a bit over the past several years. @wodin did a "bump" post just to get a conversation from another thread pushed over to this outdated thread. A thread this old should probably be locked down for eternity as it will lead to confusion since it suddenly jumps from 2014 to yesterday (7 March 2019).
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