Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward
That's why I have a good hex file editor. But I'm an old mainframer, used to twiddling bits.
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I'm a professional bit-twiddler too (mostly C and assembly language programming) and reading RTF gives me a headache
Lets say I want this sentence centred on one line:
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
In HTML, that would be something similar to this:
<HTML>
<HEAD></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'>The <b>quick</b> <i>brown</i> fox jumps over the lazy dog.</p>
</DIV>
</BODY>
</HTML>
I just opened MS Word and typed the sentence in, then saved it as RTF. This is what I got out of Word:
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{\f43\froman\fcharset178\fprq2 Times New Roman (Arabic);}{\f44\froman\fcharset186\fprq2 Times New Roman Baltic;}{\f45\froman\fcharset163\fprq2 Times New Roman (Vietnamese);}
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{\f151\fmodern\fcharset162\fprq1 MS Mincho Tur{\*\falt \'82\'6c\'82\'72 \'96\'be\'92\'a9};}{\f154\fmodern\fcharset186\fprq 1 MS Mincho Baltic{\*\falt \'82\'6c\'82\'72 \'96\'be\'92\'a9};}{\f399\fmodern\fcharset0\fprq1 @MS Mincho Western;}
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Now maybe there are programs that produce easier to understand RTF, but it looks to me like HTML is far, far easier to understand for most people!
On the other hand, I find that most of the editors for RTF (ie: word processors) are much easier to format documents with than most HTML editors, which are optimized to edit "pages" instead of "books".