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Old 09-23-2008, 03:54 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by acidzebra View Post
"more deterministic"? Something is either deterministic or it isn't. Is the human brain working in a deterministic fashion? I think yes, this seems to be a deterministic universe on the macro scale, our brains and even neurons firing are macro-scale structures. Complexity does not mean it ultimately isn't deterministic in nature.

Computers 'evolved' from the von Neumann architecture, which is based on sequential processing and execution of explicit instructions. On the other hand, the origins of artificial neural networks are based on efforts to model information processing in biological systems, which may rely largely on parallel processing as well as implicit instructions based on recognition of patterns of 'sensory' input from external sources. In other words, at its very heart a neural network is a complex statistical processor (as opposed to being tasked to sequentially process and execute) which might be a good way to model how humans go about things internally.

We'll see where it goes, perhaps neural nets will unlock some of the answers, and perhaps we'll need to look elsewhere. I'm on the hard determinist side. No magic dust in the human brain.
In statistics there are levels of deterministic. A computer will reveal predictable results from someone that knows the algorithm while we think generally human behavior is somewhat predictable then someone goes off the deepend and does something total unpredicted.

We are just beginning to get a fairly good understand of the hardware we call a brain and how it is hooked together and how the neurons and other parts go together but we haven't a clue as to how thinking is done. Abstract thinking does not flow automatically out of the hardware connections.

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