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LVD
02-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Project of the device for reading electronic books
Screen: 6 "SVGA Electronic Paper Display (not E Ink Corporation)
CPU: ARM7, 73 MHz
SRAM: 1,0 Mb
ROM: 256 Mb (it is used 248 Mb)
USB 2.0
SD/MMC: up to 2.0 GB
Formats: TXT, XML (FB2), RTF, JPEG, GIF, BMP
Weight: 185 gram
Retail price: 165 Usd
The beginning of sales: IV-2007

sic
02-08-2007, 03:18 PM
who's making these?

yvanleterrible
02-08-2007, 03:24 PM
OH!....OH! A right handed device? They must be sick!...So am I.

IV is that april or is it what I need to survive until it gets here? :smiley2:

yvanleterrible
02-08-2007, 03:27 PM
You're pulling our leg LVD ! Stop stalling! That's a pretty good CAD drawing. C'mon spit it out!

NatCh
02-08-2007, 03:58 PM
Google gives me bupkiss. :sad:

yvanleterrible
02-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Looks like Phillips designing!

igorsk
02-08-2007, 05:38 PM
IV is the fourth quarter, I assume. And all lBooks so far are just OEM versions of Jinke, so I assume this one will be theirs too.

nekokami
02-08-2007, 06:34 PM
Retail price: 165 Usd

This could be the tipping point, if they can get quality and volume up. But something is going to have to give in the DRM world.

NatCh
02-08-2007, 07:17 PM
But something is going to have to give in the DRM world.Yup, but at the same time, we're in a place we've never been before: instead of the lack of content and the lack of (perceived) decent hardware pushing against each other to form a huge obstacle, they're both crumbling and the drip is moving from trickle towards actual flow. I think the e-babel thing and the DRM thing are going to start to erode toward genuine solutions (don't pardon the pun :tongue3: ) to those issues.

I don't say that it'll happen quickly, but I think we should continue to see at least some movement there. http://www.fastlanehw.com/forums/images/smilies/fingersx.gif

nekokami
02-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Steve Jobs coming out against DRM in music may help a bit. Maybe.

LVD
02-08-2007, 11:51 PM
Yes, it while the concept. To us interestingly your opinion

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2964/v7gf3.gif

The FrontLight-panel demountable, is installed only when in it there is a necessity. Except for illumination the FrontLight-panel can provide additional protection of the eINK-screen

NatCh
02-09-2007, 12:12 AM
I like the idea, I've always liked the idea of an optional built in front light, so no surprise there. :nice:

nekokami
02-09-2007, 07:34 AM
The first post says a 6" screen, the later post says 12" high. Which is it?

If it is 12" high, could there be an optional touchscreen of some kind that could be used instead of the light guide? I think the light guide is a great idea, but I really want pen input to make notes on documents.

yvanleterrible
02-09-2007, 07:48 AM
Neko! I think the #12 on the drawing refers to the number of programmable buttons. It's a 6 incher.

If you look at the basic disposition of controls, the unit can be turned 180degrees, permitting left or right handed controls. Brilliant design. An other feature, the "bulge", permits holding with a wider part of the hand instead of finger tips; longer read time without discomfort.

Melf
02-09-2007, 08:37 AM
This one looks good :D
I like the design and it has the first reasonable price for an e-ink reader, I have seen ! :)

Alexander Turcic
02-09-2007, 02:01 PM
Screen: 6 "SVGA Electronic Paper Display (not E Ink Corporation)
I'd be interested to know who the maker of the display is.

LVD
02-10-2007, 03:11 AM
The screen is executed on technology Microcup which differs from technology eINK a little.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7493/01pixdz2.gif

The screen more white and above speed of reaction. Has the smaller price, than eINK

It is planned, in VI - quarter 2008 transition to the plastic screen (not flexible). We hope, that by then lBOOK V6 will have a retail price, approximately, 140-145 dollars.

The price for the market of Ukraine and Russia is a primary factor. Unfortunately, this device only for our market. It will not be a success in the markets of the Europe or America. We cannot compete with SONY and iREX

Alexander Turcic
02-10-2007, 04:48 AM
Thanks for the details, LVD. The fact alone that you are not using E Ink makes this a very interesting device. Microcup is by SiPix, right?

http://sipix.com/technology/index.html

Have you had a chance to compare it in real life to E Ink?

LVD
02-10-2007, 05:39 AM
:)


...
Have you had a chance to compare it in real life to E Ink?

Yes

Alexander Turcic
02-10-2007, 07:27 AM
:)


...
Have you had a chance to compare it in real life to E Ink?

Yes
And...? :ears: :happy2:

LVD
02-10-2007, 08:24 AM
Optical properties (contrast, reflection) are not worse eINK manufacture PVI. Speed of updating of the screen above (approximately on 30 %). The screen has 16 levels grey. Very qualitatively displays a black-white photo.

nekokami
02-10-2007, 08:39 AM
We cannot compete with SONY and iREX
I think if you can get the retail price to 140-145 dollars, you can compete with Sony and iRex very well. This price is similar to the Nintendo DS and Apple iPod Nano, which both sell extremely well in western markets.

Will the OS be linux? There is a java-based Mobipocket reader that you might be able to get for your device.

yvanleterrible
02-10-2007, 08:45 AM
With a name like V6, is it a Hanlin?
Is it still called eink?
Have they spoken of color?
Does the battery tube thing fit well in hand or did you just see the screen without a complete device?
Did you see it run with part of the software that will come with it?
Can you talk of it at all?

LVD
02-10-2007, 09:16 AM
It is the project.
It not manufacture Jinke.
We have KIT for an estimation of the screen, but it not industrial sample SVGA of the-screen. We wait for the beginning of manufacture.
We do not have plans to use OS Linux in this device.

Successful sale lBook V8 has shown, that it is possible to manage in inexpensive models and without Linux. In many cases users prefer graphic books, and 10-15 Mb for storage of such book not a problem.

For example, for lBook V8 there is a simple converter which one pressing of the button, for 1 minute in a batch mode converts perfect graphic books with a table of contents.

70 percent of simple readers are very happy with such decision.

This book, just also is aimed at such audience.

phuata
02-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Are the v2 and v8 available for sale, now?

Redfoot
02-24-2007, 09:19 PM
It is planned, in VI - quarter 2008 transition to the plastic screen (not flexible). We hope, that by then lBOOK V6 will have a retail price, approximately, 140-145 dollars.

The price for the market of Ukraine and Russia is a primary factor. Unfortunately, this device only for our market. It will not be a success in the markets of the Europe or America. We cannot compete with SONY and iREX[/QUOTE]

At that price you CAN compete. The english software could be done with the help of the programers in the Baen group. You may even be able to talk the folks at Baen.com into handling the sales, or you could sell directly to the coustomer on e-bay.

yvanleterrible
02-25-2007, 08:39 AM
Maybe what is needed is a distribution partner. Surely some Euro laden outfit sees the potential here, or is it a reliability, manufacturing or supply problem. Language maybe?
It can't be that bad. Could it be a guarded hunting grounds? Hmmm!

da_jane
02-25-2007, 09:45 AM
Oh! A detachable front light!!! I love this.

eimert
04-12-2007, 02:21 PM
It is planned, in VI - quarter 2008 transition to the plastic screen (not flexible). We hope, that by then lBOOK V6 will have a retail price, approximately, 140-145 dollars.

The price for the market of Ukraine and Russia is a primary factor. Unfortunately, this device only for our market. It will not be a success in the markets of the Europe or America. We cannot compete with SONY and iREX

At that price you CAN compete. The english software could be done with the help of the programers in the Baen group. You may even be able to talk the folks at Baen.com into handling the sales, or you could sell directly to the coustomer on e-bay.[/QUOTE]

At this price I would buy two pieces immediately - one for me and one for the wife. Maybe even a third - to avoid constant fighting with my daughter :-)

yvanleterrible
04-12-2007, 04:11 PM
Are you kiddin'? You can blow them all out of the water!

Of course you have to able to produce a lot.

nekokami
04-12-2007, 04:58 PM
I suspect there won't be support for any DRM book formats. This puts the device where non-Apple MP3 players are compared to the iPod -- an attractive, less expensive alternative to the "real thing", but you need to know a bit more about what you're doing to use one, and you also have to be able to take a certain kind of stand on fair use and copyright law.

I'd still get one for my 12 year old daughter if they were available, though. :D (She actually doesn't like my crumbly old yellow paperbacks that I've been saving for a generation for her!)

NatCh
04-12-2007, 05:09 PM
What are young people coming to? The ingratitude. :no:

(that is meant tongue in cheek, in case it needs to be said :))

File
04-12-2007, 10:36 PM
College student, tight budget. For the functionality and ease provided, this price is very attractive and I would surely buy one. And after, advertise to anyone curious.

yvanleterrible
04-13-2007, 07:38 AM
What are young people coming to? The ingratitude. :no:

(that is meant tongue in cheek, in case it needs to be said :))
Well kids at least would have a more reasonable purpose for all that paper than dogs would! :laugh4:

drahnreb
04-14-2007, 02:23 PM
Not supporting the PDF-Format they will not have any success.

astra
04-14-2007, 05:06 PM
Not supporting the PDF-Format they will not have any success.

Uhm. Sony doesn't support PDF as well, but it is very popular :)

NatCh
04-14-2007, 08:50 PM
Well, the Sony does support PDF, it just doesn't support A4 sized PDFs -- not very well, anyway.

astra
04-15-2007, 08:44 AM
Well, the Sony does support PDF, it just doesn't support A4 sized PDFs -- not very well, anyway.

Oh well. We have been through this before :rolleyes5

* Stage 1
I can say that I can write programs using C++.
Sony says it supports PDF.

** Stage 2
Someone hires me and asks to write a code (on a basis that I am proficient in writing programs using C++)
Someone buys the reader (on a basis that it supports pdf files) and try to read their pdf files which are probably 98% are A4.

*** Stage 3
I give the guy (who hired me and paid me money for the service) a set of instructions of how HE should teach me to write the program in C++ for his business.
Sony gives us instructions how WE should prepare PDF files(that are already ready to be used and are the end product that should not require any further editing) for the reader to digest them.

In both cases the customers are being mislead by false claims.
The claims are not strictly false, because I can write programs in C++ but only for aviation and have no clue how to write programs for banking and the reader supports pdf files...that are non existant but cannot make a conventional pdf files usable.
In both cases we had to inform out customers before thay paid money about our limitations, however we never did...

dmikov
05-01-2007, 02:25 PM
It's perfect. I missed REB1000 ergonomics for long time. REB2150 and Sony require you to use 2 hands or balance device on your fingertips. I would love to go back to use one hand. Please do not be aftraid to put BIG buttons for page up and page down. Some of us have big fingers.
I also like to urge you to put some hooks or something on the back so you can make plastic ugly fattening attachment, sold separetely, for stay home reading so it is even more convinient to hold it in one hand. Take a look at old REB.
With build in light, it is totally what I look for in ebook ergonomically. Don't go stingy on software (PC part) though or release a good API. That thing is soooo important. Nobody want to spend 2 hours preparing and loading the book.