Looks pretty, but call quality and battery life are, of course, unknown. Does have WiFi.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

"Apple quotes 5 hours of battery life for talk or video, with a full 16 hours in music mode -- no word on standby time yet. "

Would ebook display be somewhere inbetween, perhaps?

Wonder if it runs mac programs also?
Eventually as software choices grow, maybe it could compete with Treos, Symbian and Windows Smartphones.

If nothing else, maybe it will push existing phone makers to integrate better displays and battery life, and add wifi!

Since the article title is "The Apple iPhone runs OS X" -- I'd guess that it does run MAC apps. :grin:

The iPhone might succeed in bringing the smartphone to the consumer market. Right now, smartphones are still targeted primarily at the business market.

Since the article title is "The Apple iPhone runs OS X" -- I'd guess that it does run MAC apps. :grin:
The apps might need to be recompiled, though. The article says it will run a variety of Mac apps on release, so perhaps they've kept the hardware similar enough.

The apps might need to be recompiled, though.Ah, I hadn't considered that possibility. http://www.fastlanehw.com/forums/images/smilies/hmm.gif

Ah, I hadn't considered that possibility. http://www.fastlanehw.com/forums/images/smilies/hmm.gif

Possibly the widget's may not need to be redone.

Would be wild to "drag" a widget you normaly use to the iPhone and use it there.

Wonder whose CPU they are using. Intel probably. Which mean you would recompile for Stromb I think.

Read somewhere that they use Intel.

I saw the Macworld presentation on TV this morning and my first thought was: gorgeous! I want one! Have you seen how nicely it scrolls down the address book? ... I wonder what Palm & Co were doing all the time...

Supposedly it runs on OS X. If this is true, then I can imagine people porting e-book software like Plucker & FBReader to the iPhone. Neat.

One huge downside is the battery being non-replaceable. It's also not clear whether you can actually install third-party apps.

One huge downside is the battery being non-replaceable. It's also not clear whether you can actually install third-party apps.
Another downside: "push" support with Yahoo Mail. It's funny how companies use the little word "push" to pretend that they are offering something similar like Blackberry. Fact is, "push IMAP" is really just offering IMAP-IDLE (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2177.txt) which still requires you to be periodically online in order to be notified of new incoming mail.

Michael Mace has some thoughts on the iPhone. Don't have the time to read his (quite extensive) article right now, but if it's up to his usual high standards it's going to be an interesting read: http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple-iphone.html

From Mobileread: "Michael Gartenberg of Jupiter Research reports that Apple says the iPhone is a closed device -- only Apple will be able to add applications to it. "

One of the comments on the blog pointed out that Java or Flash might provide a workaround.

According to what I've seen, it does sound like third party apps have to work with Apple, in other words you can't just go write an OSX program and run it on the iPhone. That pretty much makes it unfeasible as a Treo replacement for me. Plus, I suspect that the high price, questions about battery life and the Cingular-only service are going to be very limiting also. Remember that a lot of people won't switch immediately, anyway, because of existing contracts with other carriers. And when Ed Colligan said that it's hard to make a good phone, he probably knows what he is talking about. So it might not be as easy for Apple to make the iPhone a nice interface as we think. It certainly can't be determined if they got it right from a simple on stage demo.

I do think that they will eventually get it right, so my main concern is really whether or not the platform will be opened up. And I still wonder how much of OSX they have running. Wouldn't it be great to have a full OS on more smartphones!?

The other problem is that it's hard to justify too much computing power and $'s tied up in a phone device because it doubles the chance of becoming outdated, and it ties you to a carrier. I think a lot of people, myself included, probably want to keep their total smartphone cost down as there is an expectation of replacement in a year or two. At least until the technology has matured a bit more.

Still, it sure looks impressive!

Related: Our friends @ Palm Addicts launched a new site in the name of the iPhone:

Apple Phone Addict: http://palmaddict.typepad.com/tapa

David Beers (Software Everywhere) adds his two cents: What the iPhone means for mobile computing (http://www.pikesoft.com/blog/index.php?itemid=137).

Just caught the blurb... Its NOT using Intel embedded cpu!

So unless you can get a cross compiler or it runs a std Mac widget... Would be out of luck so to speak.

Not much new really, just confirmation of planned ship date:
Apple: iPhone Ships in June Apple has confirmed the iPhone will be available in the U.S. on June 11, late 2007 in Europe.

Here's the full article (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130392-c,cellphones/article.html), for the interested.