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SensualPoet
07-15-2010, 02:31 PM
Well, at least at ebay if you do a search "10 android 2.1 tablet". These babies look a lot like the 7" MID devices that were selling for $140ish six weeks ago (they're as low as $49 now).

Not bad looking device and under $300 including US / Canada shipping. Yes, the devices are under-powered but it's the right operating system (2.1 Android, not 1.5) and fully touch enabled, etc, with a screen size that's big enough to make sense upgrading from a phone or netbook.

There appear to be two or three different models and a variety of vendors, some with pretty good track records.

I came pretty close to buying the 7" model (ended up springing for a Kobo instead -- different need but same budget) in May but both the OS revision and screen size held me back. I'd expect by the end of August the market will start looking very sweet -- perhaps with some real players out the door such as Asus.

HarryT
07-15-2010, 02:37 PM
This sounds excellent. Should be a real rival for the iPad, which is good for everyone.

nrapallo
07-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Well, at least at ebay if you do a search "10 android 2.1 tablet". These babies look a lot like the 7" MID devices that were selling for $140ish six weeks ago (they're as low as $49 now).

SWEET find (http://cgi.ebay.ca/10-2-touch-Screen-Tablet-PC-256M-Mem-Android-2-1-APAD-/260634794114?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item3caf0b5882)! It does look awfully impressive for that price...

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It looks like an iPad (or what it should have been :whistle: ). There's even a whole gallery of images of it here (http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1015030&ppid=1122&image=387694693&images=387694693,387694687,387694165,387694164,387 694160,387694155,387694146,387694133,387694125,387 694117,389087032,389087022,389087004&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0).

Not bad looking device and under $300 including US / Canada shipping. Yes, the devices are under-powered but it's the right operating system (2.1 Android, not 1.5) and fully touch enabled, etc, with a screen size that's big enough to make sense upgrading from a phone or netbook.

There appear to be two or three different models and a variety of vendors, some with pretty good track records.

I came pretty close to buying the 7" model (ended up springing for a Kobo instead -- different need but same budget) in May but both the OS revision and screen size held me back. I'd expect by the end of August the market will start looking very sweet -- perhaps with some real players out the door such as Asus.

kjk
07-15-2010, 02:57 PM
Is that the fabled A-Pad? http://www.fonearena.com/blog/16519/apad-china-ipad.html

nrapallo
07-15-2010, 06:13 PM
There appear to be two or three different models and a variety of vendors, some with pretty good track records.

There's even a Windows 7 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/10-2-Full-touch-Tablet-PC-Intel-Atom450-160GB-Web-Cam-/260633819740?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item3caefc7a5c) model featuring: Intel Atom450 160GB Web Cam.
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Wow, this thing is very versatile, but can it cut the grass (for those with lawns :rolleyes: )

p.s. do you think they make an iOS4 model :snicker:

Metal Mick
07-15-2010, 08:17 PM
Hi all,

the device looks great, and if I was looking for an iPad for a reader, then this may be my preferred device.

While at the moment I much prefer a reader with e-ink and smaller size, I can envision many uses for such a device. The specifications though, do not indicate (unless I have missed it) that it has GPRS, nor an accelerometer for auto-rotate.

Battery life also seems less than an iPad, and I am unsure what is meant by the term, "2.2 touch board,USB standard mouse". No mention of weight either.

For around AUD$340 delivered, it has a lot to commend it. I would love to hear some feedback on it.

Cheers,

Michael P

SensualPoet
07-15-2010, 09:02 PM
I suggest everyone take a deep breath and reconsider my comment: "the devices are under-powered ... by the end of August the market will start looking very sweet -- perhaps with some real players out the door such as Asus."

The fact that there are real live units for sale in this screen size is impressive. Three weeks from now they'll look better still. Once brand names start to appear things will really heat up. iPad is designed and manufactured by a 1st Tier company and works really well as is; none of these units will be an "iPad killer" in 2010. However this does set the stage for an imminent wave of credible Android tablets in time for end 2010 holiday buying season.

Woo-hoo!

Lemurion
07-16-2010, 04:59 PM
The real key is not Android 2.1 - but Android 2.2

Once that's out they really will be able to take on iPad.

kjk
07-16-2010, 05:32 PM
The real key is not Android 2.1 - but Android 2.2

Once that's out they really will be able to take on iPad.

Will that bring the Market to non-smartphone devices?

abeaty
07-16-2010, 06:09 PM
I suggest everyone take a deep breath and reconsider my comment: "the devices are under-powered ... by the end of August the market will start looking very sweet -- perhaps with some real players out the door such as Asus."

The fact that there are real live units for sale in this screen size is impressive. Three weeks from now they'll look better still. Once brand names start to appear things will really heat up. iPad is designed and manufactured by a 1st Tier company and works really well as is; none of these units will be an "iPad killer" in 2010. However this does set the stage for an imminent wave of credible Android tablets in time for end 2010 holiday buying season.

Woo-hoo!

Agreed - anyone who drops 459 on one of these devices when a proven iPad is just $41 more is insane. Give it some time and slates and tablets will be available.

Lemurion
07-16-2010, 07:20 PM
Will that bring the Market to non-smartphone devices?

It may not bring the Market - though that is VITAL - but it will bring Flash, and that's something the iPad doesn't have and isn't getting.

Sonist
07-16-2010, 09:30 PM
The real key is not Android 2.1 - but Android 2.2

Once that's out they really will be able to take on iPad.

Actually, the real key will be Android 3, which will revamp Android's UI and will make it more palatable to a wider range of users.

I personally have fairly high expectations from Duarte, the Palm UI guy who was snatched by Google recently.

Dopedangel
07-17-2010, 01:46 AM
Agreed - anyone who drops 459 on one of these devices when a proven iPad is just $41 more is insane. Give it some time and slates and tablets will be available.

Wait for samsung they will bring Ipad copies with android.
Their phones are rumored use a newer version of the processors used in Iphone 4.

Sadly their new Amoled manufacturing plant is not coming online till 2011
so we wont see any Amoled tablets till end of 2011. Now a 10inch Samoled
screen would be the thing to have.
I own a samsung galaxy s and its shocking how lite it is I expected it to be alot heavier

=X=
07-17-2010, 02:38 AM
I held off buying the Droid X for the Samsung Fascinate. The specs are close but the Super AOMLED and graphic processor sold me on the device. I did hear it was light but the review made it sound like it was a bad thing. He said it made it feel cheep.

Sonist
07-17-2010, 03:45 AM
I held off buying the Droid X for the Samsung Fascinate. The specs are close but the Super AOMLED and graphic processor sold me on the device. I did hear it was light but the review made it sound like it was a bad thing. He said it made it feel cheep.

I like the Samsung Galaxy S. The screen is impressive, to my eyes.

I wouldn't say the body feels cheap - it looks like the iPhone 3Gs, which is a good thing. IMO. TouchWiz is garish, but installing LauncherPro remedies this easily.

I feel it's probably the best phone overall on the market (because of the screen, mainly).

P.S. Samsung seems to be coming out with a 7" tablet version in a couple of months.

cutterjohn42
07-19-2010, 01:38 PM
Cortex A8 based android tablets is what really is needed, giving these thing some needed additional CPU power, and it looks like some of the first ones will be shipping soon with Android 2.1. (Of course if they take much longer they might be bumped to 2.2 by the time they actually do ship... as various online retailers that are listing some of these keep sliding the shipping dates back...)

toddos
07-20-2010, 05:16 AM
What really annoys me is that every Android tablet I've seen uses a resistive touch screen. Where are the tablets with capacitive touch? I don't want to use a stylus.

HansTWN
07-20-2010, 07:17 AM
You CAN use your finger on a resistive screen! How ever did yo, u get that idea? You can use anything. The only time I use a stylus on my phone is when I want to click on a link in the browser. Try hitting one of 2 links next to each other on a capacitive screen! Usually you have to zoom in. Late generation resistive screens actually were pretty good and unjustly maligned. Resistive screens are much more accurate and you don't need a special pen for them.

Prash
07-20-2010, 09:07 AM
There's even a Windows 7 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/10-2-Full-touch-Tablet-PC-Intel-Atom450-160GB-Web-Cam-/260633819740?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item3caefc7a5c) model featuring: Intel Atom450 160GB Web Cam.
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Wow, this thing is very versatile, but can it cut the grass (for those with lawns :rolleyes: )

p.s. do you think they make an iOS4 model :snicker:

That one looks interesting. It sure is powerful (computing wise, read atom450). But Win 7 performance on that will affect battery to a great deal.

Actually, the real key will be Android 3, which will revamp Android's UI and will make it more palatable to a wider range of users.

I personally have fairly high expectations from Duarte, the Palm UI guy who was snatched by Google recently.

Yes, Gingerbread(android 3.0) sure is keeping everyone on their toes, I hope it's really that good. :)

toddos
07-21-2010, 12:35 AM
You CAN use your finger on a resistive screen! How ever did yo, u get that idea? You can use anything. The only time I use a stylus on my phone is when I want to click on a link in the browser. Try hitting one of 2 links next to each other on a capacitive screen! Usually you have to zoom in. Late generation resistive screens actually were pretty good and unjustly maligned. Resistive screens are much more accurate and you don't need a special pen for them.

Yes, you can use your finger on a resistive screen, but it's not an enjoyable experience. Resistive screens require you to press, not just touch. Compare the sensitivity (not accuracy -- that doesn't matter when you're talking about touch targets the size of a fingertip) of your resistive-touch phone to any capacitive touch phone (iPhone, modern Android phones, etc) and then try to tell me that resistive is superior.

For a touch-centric device, the only reason you should not use a capacitive screen is if you're targeting the super low end and simply can't afford a capacitive touch screen. Anything else, especially if it's $300+, is just dumb.

I believe the Dell Streak is capacitive touch, but it's a bit small. I haven't seen any 7-10" Android tablets with capacitive touch yet.

HansTWN
07-21-2010, 01:34 AM
Yes, you can use your finger on a resistive screen, but it's not an enjoyable experience. Resistive screens require you to press, not just touch. Compare the sensitivity (not accuracy -- that doesn't matter when you're talking about touch targets the size of a fingertip) of your resistive-touch phone to any capacitive touch phone (iPhone, modern Android phones, etc) and then try to tell me that resistive is superior.

For a touch-centric device, the only reason you should not use a capacitive screen is if you're targeting the super low end and simply can't afford a capacitive touch screen. Anything else, especially if it's $300+, is just dumb.

I believe the Dell Streak is capacitive touch, but it's a bit small. I haven't seen any 7-10" Android tablets with capacitive touch yet.

I guess you are thinking about resistive screens from 3-4 years back. Yes, on my very old phones you needed pressure. But now I am comparing the Iphone 3G to my Touch Pro2 and the pressure needed on the Touch Pro2 is so slight that you really hardly notice it. And scrolling is very smooth, too. Anyway, marketing power has spoken, and resistive screens are about to disappear, but I honestly believe that resistive screens could be just as good. You can even use a software add-on multi touch.

Of course, on a 10.1" screen everything is so big that you will need a pen for handwritten notes only -- and then accuracy is important.

Yes, the Streak is capacitive touch. It is a great size for a phone, the maximum pocketable, but a really small tablet. 7" and 10" versions are in the works.

toddos
07-21-2010, 02:30 AM
I guess you are thinking about resistive screens from 3-4 years back. Yes, on my very old phones you needed pressure. But now I am comparing the Iphone 3G to my Touch Pro2 and the pressure needed on the Touch Pro2 is so slight that you really hardly notice it. And scrolling is very smooth, too. Anyway, marketing power has spoken, and resistive screens are about to disappear, but I honestly believe that resistive screens could be just as good. You can even use a software add-on multi touch.

I did that exact same comparison (my iPhone 3GS vs. a friend's Touch Pro2 vs. my girlfriend's HTC Incredible), and I had to use a significant amount of pressure just to unlock his phone. When I swipe on the iPhone or Incredible to unlock, I'm barely touching the device. While it may be true that the amount of pressure needed for current generation resistive screens is less than older screens, it's still a lot more than what's needed on capacitive touch.

I wouldn't say it's marketing that won, but just a better technology overall (also more expensive, but I'm willing to pay for it).


Yes, the Streak is capacitive touch. It is a great size for a phone, the maximum pocketable, but a really small tablet. 7" and 10" versions are in the works.

See, I don't need another phone. I have a good phone. I want a tablet, and 5" is on the brink of being too small. The Streak 7 looks better, but it's still not official (only leaked). I guess I have to wait another 6 months before there'll be any decent Android tablets.

HansTWN
07-21-2010, 04:45 AM
I guess I have to wait another 6 months before there'll be any decent Android tablets.

There is hope something will come out in time for the Christmas holiday season, everybody will try to get things out before then.

As to resistive, capacitive screens we will just have to agree to disagree. Perhaps the screens vary in pressure needed? Anyway, I still like the accuracy and the ability to use anything as a pointing device. And there are other issues -- what about places where they have real winters (not that we have any here)? You will need special gloves just to answer your phone. Women can't use capacitive screens with long, fake fingernails. A pen is much better for handwriting input for Chinese, for example.

However, all moot points, resistive screens will be gone before we know it.

SensualPoet
07-21-2010, 08:43 PM
This particular 10" Android 2.1 tablet employs resistive touch: http://cgi.ebay.ca/10-1-Google-Android-APAD-Wi-Fi-ROCKCHIP-USB-Tablet-PC-/190419780699?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2c55e7445b#ht_3002wt_1436

SensualPoet
07-24-2010, 09:03 PM
Although I started this thread only a few days, ago, prices are already dropping, a little.

Here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.ca/10-1-Google-Android-APAD-Wi-Fi-ROCKCHIP-USB-Tablet-PC-/190419780699?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2c55e7445b#ht_3002wt_1436

(I am not endorsing this model or this vendor; for discussion purposes only.)

It's resistive touch, 1024x600 16:9 screen, 5000 mAH battery (abt double the norm), but 220 v charger. It's also entirely possible the specs are wrong. I am thinking that within 2, 3, 6 or 10 weeks we will see some further dramatic changes in specs. This is already a much more interesting model than could be had, for around the same price, as recently as May.

None of these units appear to exceed 2GB onboard storage. Modest improvements in screen resolution, and possibly capacitive vs resistive touch, and something closer to 64 GB onboard storage, eventually with 3G options in addition to wifi, will make for much more compelling units. One has to think these variations aren't very far away.

pholy
07-25-2010, 10:46 AM
SP - I read through the ebay ad and found this: OS: Google Android 1.5

I'm not sure what the differences are, but it looks like this pad isn't as up-to-date as we would like it to be...

SensualPoet
07-25-2010, 12:35 PM
Yes, and some say Android 2.1 optional (you have to load yourself) and others offer Windows CE by default. It's definitely a little ways off yet for the specs and offerings to stabilize. This linked unit is among the handsomest I've seen. And just two months ago, the largest units of this class were 7".

SensualPoet
08-02-2010, 05:13 PM
Cortex A8 based android tablets is what really is needed, giving these thing some needed additional CPU power, and it looks like some of the first ones will be shipping soon with Android 2.1. (Of course if they take much longer they might be bumped to 2.2 by the time they actually do ship... as various online retailers that are listing some of these keep sliding the shipping dates back...)

Geez, blink and you'd miss it. LOL. Ok, there are now tons of Android 2.1 *with* the 1 GHz A8 (aka ZT-180?) now shipping.

I'm still holding out for: built-in camera, "n" wifi not "g", a price for a model with 16 GB not 2 GB, more details on the 3G versions (appears to be a dongle), and the Android App Market extended to non-phone devices.

But, crickey! This market is changing SO quickly.

BTW, a little bird tells me there will be Android tablets from ASUS in stores next week locally. As soon as I actually see one, I'll post more details.

Dvalin21
08-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Hello everyone,

Its been awhile since I've been on here and I've became interested in these andriod tablets. I found two of them and I think one of them is the same one your talking about. Let me know.

http://www.ownta.com/cpad-mid-and-umpc-with-10.2-inch-touch-screen-and-android-2.1-system.html

http://davismicro.com/products/product_22353.htm

Let me know what you guys think. PS: Sensual did you receive one these yet? If so can't wait for the review

spec
08-09-2010, 01:39 PM
Well, at least at ebay if you do a search "10 android 2.1 tablet". These babies look a lot like the 7" MID devices that were selling for $140ish six weeks ago (they're as low as $49 now).

Could you please post a link where are they at $49 now?

SensualPoet
08-22-2010, 04:19 PM
Dvalin21: thanks for the links. No, I haven't bought one yet. Until one of these has proper access to the Android Market, I am very hesitant to step up.

Spec: the 7" MID at $49 were available on eBay -- the same models that popped up in May or June. Other discussions here suggest they were not worth owning.

jblitereader
08-22-2010, 07:05 PM
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Dvalin21
08-23-2010, 11:51 AM
SenualPeT,

So far what I've seen is that the A81E with android is the best. Also, I saw on Youtube where there is an "third party" android market, specificly for devices that didn't come with android originally. That might make the difference, but just to go ahead and save you some trouble. I saw later on that the 10.1 android tablet was crap! It was sluggish barely responsive. Your better either A: Waiting for the 10in Google Chrome(by the way the specs are the same if you buy a Ipad with all the whistles and bells but cheaper) for $300, or go with the A81E with android. The Youtube clip shows you how to intall it on your tablet.

cdndave
08-23-2010, 12:35 PM
Wow

some people really become fanboys for their tablets (not pointing fingers).

My experience with products from China has been fairly positive so far (I've been buying directly from China for the last 4 years). The 10" epads have been getting better as the firmware has been improved. Market was figured out early this morning (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7799319&postcount=356 for details if you own a Zenithink)

For reading books, watching vids and listening to music - these things are great.

Just my 2 worth

D

jblitereader
08-23-2010, 01:45 PM
Wow

some people really become fanboys for their tablets (not pointing fingers).
Then fine go buy an ipad or something. I just think it's nice that the gentouch comes from k-mart, which has a 3 months no hassle return policy. I'm not defending it. Just telling you what I know.



My experience with products from China has been fairly positive so far (I've been buying directly from China for the last 4 years). The 10" epads have been getting better as the firmware has been improved. Market was figured out early this morning (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7799319&postcount=356 for details if you own a Zenithink)
I've had horrible experiences with products shipped from china. Sellers never responded complaints. Some worked for a few days and then stopped. Some sellers appear to not mind bad reviews because they're only selling for a short time to make as much money as possible and then disappear.

I am not saying all products directly from china aren't good. But buying stuff directly from china is a risk in itself that I stopped taking.

Again, these guys are sitting in china. Hell, that guy from vietnam that hacked into itunes to steal millions over july 4th got away with it simply by being in vietnam.

It's your money, so you can buy whatever you want from whoever you want. I'm just informing you of the risks involved.

For reading books, watching vids and listening to music - these things are great.

Just my 2 worth

D

Ok, I'll take your word for it. Still doesn't make up for the fact that if something goes wrong you can't make them give you another one. Heck, some don't have any warranty at all. You want to take the risk, be my guest.

cdndave
08-23-2010, 04:08 PM
livingenzyme

I appreciate your dedication to your chosen device. Guys like you make the hobby more enjoyable in general. Availability at Kmart is great for folks living in the US, but for the rest of us, China tablets are the only option besides an genuine Apple iPad. I for one will probably buy a 2nd or 3rd gen ipad - once it matures and the bugs are ironed out. But until then for less than $200 I can have a device that does 95% of what I need for a fraction of the price.

I think you over exaggerate the risk involved, a few minutes of Google and forum reading will lead you to long term and honest merchants in China. When I have had issues with the stuff I've ordered from China, the merchant was very open and fair to making it right (often I've had vendors ship me new units and told to chuck the defective unit).

But like you said experiences may vary. I have had a very positive experience with direct from China :)

Dave

BTW I'm in Montreal Canada - not a Chinese shill :D

clerky96
08-23-2010, 04:14 PM
Availability at Kmart is great for folks living in the US
I would buy one from Kmart in a heartbeat, but you can't find them. They sold out almost on "day one". Doesn't do any good to tell people to buy US when there are none available for purchase.:(

Just saw that Kmart has these available online. Guess I will try it out!

jblitereader
08-23-2010, 11:38 PM
livingenzyme

I appreciate your dedication to your chosen device.
*Sigh*

You're misunderstanding me. Assume for a moment that the device I just bought is total crap. Ok? All I'm saying is buying directly from China is a very risky business. Every year, thousands of people are scammed into buying devices from China that only worked for a few days. I was one of these victims several times. The sellers sit in China. What are we going to do? The Chinese government certainly don't cooperate in issues of commercial dispute. So, the question remains. Once you've realized you've been scammed into spending hundreds of dollars on a piece of crap that only works for a few days, what are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? If the seller is some guy sitting in China, there is absolutely nothing real you can do. The closest retribution you can impose on the seller is a bad review. And even then, they will pretend to be some law firm emailing you intimidating you into withdrawing your bad review with the threat of a lawsuit. A few years ago, it happened to me. I never budged and nothing came of it. But I kept my eyes open on that seller and I did notice a lot of bad reviews disappearing after a day or so. People were actually caving into their threats.

Guys like you make the hobby more enjoyable in general. Availability at Kmart is great for folks living in the US, but for the rest of us, China tablets are the only option besides an genuine Apple iPad. I for one will probably buy a 2nd or 3rd gen ipad - once it matures and the bugs are ironed out. But until then for less than $200 I can have a device that does 95% of what I need for a fraction of the price.
It's your money, so you can do what you want with it.

It just grinds me to death to see Chinese scammers keep getting away.

It's like those nigerian email scammers that keep getting away with scamming the weakest members of our society out of thousands and thousands of dollars every time. The nigerian government has thus far done absolutely nothing at all. There have been some people who have collected some damning evidence against individual scammers. They sent those evidence to both the US and nigerian authority. Nothing have ever became of them. Why? Because the nigerian government simply won't do anything.

We are seeing the same thing with some of the east asian countries. That dirtbag hacker from Vietnam is probably living comfortably right now after stealing millions from us after he paid off some corrupt vietnamese officials.

Anyway, take it for what it's worth. Your money, your risk.

khalleron
09-01-2010, 02:01 PM
livingenzyme

I appreciate your dedication to your chosen device. Guys like you make the hobby more enjoyable in general. Availability at Kmart is great for folks living in the US, but for the rest of us, China tablets are the only option besides an genuine Apple iPad. I for one will probably buy a 2nd or 3rd gen ipad - once it matures and the bugs are ironed out. But until then for less than $200 I can have a device that does 95% of what I need for a fraction of the price.

I think you over exaggerate the risk involved, a few minutes of Google and forum reading will lead you to long term and honest merchants in China. When I have had issues with the stuff I've ordered from China, the merchant was very open and fair to making it right (often I've had vendors ship me new units and told to chuck the defective unit).

But like you said experiences may vary. I have had a very positive experience with direct from China :)

Dave

BTW I'm in Montreal Canada - not a Chinese shill :D


Funny, this doesn't read as though it's written by a native English speaker.

Dvalin21
09-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Dave do have a point. Mr. Lencho Lee from Wirelession was an awesome help when I received my device and it was cracked in the shipment. He didnt leave me @ZZ out, he made sure that I was at least able to repair the device, (sent me the new LCD screen, scratch that as first succesful screen replacement :) ). Either way, you could be in the states get a shady merchant and still not get your money back or device replaced. I just think everyone likes to have the comfort feeling from ordering from someone in the states thinking they have a better chance to get help on their devices.

kennyc
09-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Actually, the real key will be Android 3, which will revamp Android's UI and will make it more palatable to a wider range of users.

I personally have fairly high expectations from Duarte, the Palm UI guy who was snatched by Google recently.

This.

Noah98
09-06-2010, 11:25 AM
It looks to me like the Archos 70 and the Archos 101 (shipping in October) are the best of the upcoming ipad rivals. These should be available at Amazon.com. I would trust them (they have a great return policy) over taking my chances ordering something from China.

The 10.1 has a capacitive touchscreen, Android 2.2, great audio/video support, hdmi out, accelerometer, 8 gb onboard storage, 3d acceleration, and expandable memory (micro sd). It is also thin, and lighter than an ipad. For $300 it has everything that I've been looking for. The only downside is that it doesn't ship with the google apps or official market (it uses appslib instead), but those are usually easily hacked (see Pandigital Novel, Augen Gentouch, Archos 5, and Archos 7HT) in after release.

The 7 inch version (the 70, not the 7HT) is the same as the above and comes in at $275.

Link:

http://www.archos.com/products/ta/index.html?country=us&lang=en

kennyc
09-06-2010, 12:18 PM
At Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/104-5517232-3382339?search-alias=aps&keywords=archos

Noah98
09-06-2010, 01:46 PM
At Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/104-5517232-3382339?search-alias=aps&keywords=archos

Those are the older Archos models. Amazon doesn't have the new ones listed yet.

kennyc
09-06-2010, 02:08 PM
Well that's the link to Amazon from the Archos site. If they are not available then they aren't listed there. :p

I am certainly looking forward to these and others in the coming months (and looking forward to my DroidX TOMORROW!!!)

petermillard
09-06-2010, 02:26 PM
Link:

http://www.archos.com/products/ta/index.html?country=us&lang=en

Wow, getting kind of crowded down the bottom end with a 4.3", 3.2" and 2.8" device - I guess there are other features that distinguish them besides price and screen size, but with so many models competing against each other (let alone devices from other companies) I think it's going to make potential customers heads spin.

Be interesting to see how they do.

Cheers, Pete

kennyc
09-06-2010, 02:34 PM
Wow, getting kind of crowded down the bottom end with a 4.3", 3.2" and 2.8" device - I guess there are other features that distinguish them besides price and screen size, but with so many models competing against each other (let alone devices from other companies) I think it's going to make potential customers heads spin.

Be interesting to see how they do.

Cheers, Pete

Yeah and then (as mentioned above) the new vs. old models of the same size .... I think it can just cause confusion!

petermillard
09-06-2010, 03:08 PM
Yes, it's funny but Gruber on Daring Fireball's been bemoaning the dearth of competitors for the iPod Touch, and lo! here we suddenly have an entire family of them! I guess that the 2.8" will be built down to a price and the 3.2" will be in the iTouch space, but the 4.3" is the one that has me scratching my head - just seems to be an odd size to pitch at; smaller than a Dell Streak, I guess, but that's not especially compelling ;)

Anyway, we'll see - does anyone know if they're being launched internationally, or just in the U.S.?

Cheers, Pete

Dvalin21
09-15-2010, 01:44 AM
Here are two video review of this device. Looks pretty nice besides of the weak battery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3thgFZli0A&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMfeMCuUNw

First link is review one, second link is review two.

kennyc
09-15-2010, 06:26 AM
Gad, I had to turn it off cause of the awful background music going on and on and on and on and on and on!

Dvalin21
09-20-2010, 07:27 PM
Has anyone here posted a full review, I mean its great its on youtube, but i would rather get the opinion from members/friends of mobilread