View Full Version : SmartQ v7 vs A81E vs E7001


abaran72
07-14-2010, 02:18 AM
I am planning to buy Android based Mid for Ebook reading and go through my Video CBTs.
What is the best MID out of the following.
SmartQ v7 vs A81E vs E7001

Appreciate your inputs to clarify

DinahGlez
07-23-2010, 11:45 AM
I just got my SmartQ V7 recently and the Android OS doesn't work properly. There are firmware updates that are supposed to fix the problem, but I've been trying to download the updates from the MID and have not been able to. I am trying to download it from the laptop to the sd card to see if it works.

marrr
08-09-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm also after MID for mainly ebooks and www, I was thinking about Smartq V7 but when I watched some videos I saw it was very slow in android/ linux, especially browsing the web but even typing on virtual keyboard seems sluggish. A81E is much faster when it comes to www and OS performance, but it fails miserably when it comes to video, I'm not sure if it's driver/software or hardware issue, but if you want to view HD videos then V7 is excellent at that. E7001 is Android 1.5 so it's another league... V7 is Android 2.1/ Linux/ WinCE multiboot and A81E is Android 2.2 or WinCE. A81 has GPS but it only works under WinCE

KingDani
08-09-2010, 08:48 PM
forget E7001 , V7 has the advantage of multi boot so you can watch everything in ubuntu. it is not laggy in android compartment anymore, thanks to a final 2.1 release which makes it actually working, android is working on it as well.
as for wise e81, it is a piece of tech , but 256mb RAM means a hypothetical android 2.2 would not work so great , but it's your choice in the end.
these guys: http://mp4nation.net/blog/2010/08/introducing-the-midnite/ rebranded it ,and have a good community and top notch service. for under 200USD its a bargain, i got my v7 at around 279 , shipping included.
cheers

Dave_S
08-10-2010, 07:28 AM
I just got my SmartQ V7 recently and the Android OS doesn't work properly. There are firmware updates that are supposed to fix the problem, but I've been trying to download the updates from the MID and have not been able to. I am trying to download it from the laptop to the sd card to see if it works.

I have had the SmartQ V7 for a few months now, and the latest firmware has transformed it into a really nice device. The Android 2.1 in the latest firmware has become my favorite of the 3 OS that are on it. With the RockPlayer on Android it is possible to play most available video formats, and there are also a good selection of eBook readers for Android as well. Aldiko looks pretty, but FBReader is my favorite.

marrr
08-11-2010, 06:43 AM
Android 2.2 for A81E is no longer hypothetical, it has GPS working, still no Bluetooth though. There are going to release multiboot firmware, so you will be able to boot into android and win ce.

P.S. It also matters what kind of ebooks you gonna read. If graphic-heavy pdfs (e.g. magazines) then A81E will be much better for this. If simpler books, mostly text and you want external HD video output, then V7.

Dave_S
08-11-2010, 07:29 AM
If graphic-heavy pdfs (e.g. magazines) then A81E will be much better for this. If simpler books, mostly text and you want external HD video output, then V7.

I am curious about what the basis is for that statement? :chinscratch:

I was not able to see anything in the A81E specs, that would make that kind of difference? I am not trying to say you are wrong, but just trying to understand.:blink:

marrr
08-13-2010, 07:12 AM
It has faster processor, initially I was convinced to buy SmartQ V7, but after analyzing some youtube videos I found it to be too slow for my needs (I like multi boot though)

Dave_S
08-13-2010, 07:46 AM
It has faster processor, initially I was convinced to buy SmartQ V7, but after analyzing some youtube videos I found it to be too slow for my needs (I like multi boot though)

I guess that you must be referring to the difference between ARM11 vs. Cortex A8 architectures, since both systems use 600MHz processor clocks? Also, Android 2.2 is supposed to be quite a bit faster than Android 2.1, so I am looking forward to Smart Devices getting their port out ASAP.:)

I have to admit to not being impressed with video players that came with the SmartQ V7 Android 2.1 package, but after installing the RockPlayer and FFMPEG, the video performance is quite nice, IMHO. I have not seen how videos look on the A81E, so I can not compare. At the time I made my purchase I was looking at Witsech and Smart Devices, but Witstech only had WinCE running on their device. Since I did not want to wait for them to get Android on it, my choice was really made for me.

The multi boot is nice, but since SmartQ released their Android 2.1 package, I have not had any use for multi boot. Isn't Witstech releasing a multi boot setup for the A81E real soon now?

marrr
08-20-2010, 05:54 AM
Yeah, the difference is in processor architecture. As for the multiboot you are right, they promised releasing firmware with this option, but it's gonna be WinCE/Android choice - v7 has this too, but also Linux.

oliwek
09-03-2010, 09:34 AM
Hello...
could someone (with experience on at aleast one of those devices) comment about this hypothetic advantage of the A81E over the V7 for heavy PDFs? I understand that an ARM 8 should be faster, on android, than the ARM11 on ubuntu, but how is it IRL?
thanks

oliwek
09-05-2010, 07:56 PM
bump...
nobody? is there a V7 owner among you? is the Smartq able, using Ubuntu document reader (evince), to handle heavy pdfs? I mean with hundreds of pages, color pictures...

roguefan99
09-05-2010, 08:59 PM
Speaking from the experience of a SmartQ 7 (note not V7) I would do all my pdf reading using Android. Its flows/loads pdfs much better than the Evince software does on my SmartQ (used both), especially for large pdf files.

oliwek
09-08-2010, 04:52 AM
thank you for your input...
I'm considering a linux device because I am afraid several formats (.djvu, .chm, .cbr/.cbz,...) wouldn't be readable anymore in android. I'm also attached to the free software philosophy.
But for sure, I'll try android for PDFs, especially if the software is ergonomic (on a 7inch netbook, evince is my reader of choice for its fullscreen adaptability, and the many formats it supports).
What is yours in android?

roguefan99
09-09-2010, 03:21 AM
CBZ are avaliable in Android (use ACV) and cbrs do work but its extremely slow. not sure about the other formats as I generally use a Kobo reader for books etc. I'm using Android 2.2 on mine at the moment (got it from a russian SmartQ forum, thanks to google translate).

Can't remember the pdf reader I use and unfortanetly my Smart Q's battery is dead because i didn't shut it down!

oliwek
09-10-2010, 04:19 AM
I have just recieved mine one hour ago... you use froyo on a V7? how does it play? I suppose flash 10 support is problematic, isn't it?
still have to tinker with mine, I have never used android before, so it's discovery time.

kennyc
09-10-2010, 07:14 AM
I don't know the details on either of these, but personally I'm not going to buy any mid 6/7/8/9 inch) android device until version 3.0 is released which officially handles the larger screens...

roguefan99
09-10-2010, 11:01 PM
Mine is a SmartQ7 not a SmartQ V7. However if you have a look at the smartqMid forums (sorry dont have a link) they might have firmware there

oliwek
09-13-2010, 03:35 AM
Thank you, I updated the firmwares to last ubuntu (5.5 updated) and android (2.1 v2) proposed on the official support site (chinese version, the english one is not up to date). Really pleased with the last android firmware by the way, really better than what I had initially (android 2.1 v1 I think).
I have to look for some info though (sudo apt-get update seems to freeze in ubuntu ; android market downloads also past the initial connection, but there are some good apps preinstalled, and alternative ways to get other ones).

jimgb07
09-19-2010, 02:30 PM
Hi...

Just a couple thoughts...

There are a couple that play Movies with not problem, and of course do Ebooks, pdf, comics etc... depending on the reader you install.

There are the cheap price alternatives, like the EKENS. True, less power, but also LESS PRICE, and still gets the job done. Very big forums following. There is even a working 8" screen model M003 for about $145

there are the middle road, which I personally own-- the G11-X5A . It's got a metal/glass top. Batteries last forever, handles all movies has a HDMI Port. and again, ebooks are based on what reader you install. In around $188

High end are the WiTS A81e that some mentioned. Price is about $250 AND you need to install custom firmware, updates etc... to make it work well.

I should mention you can upgrade the Roms in the ekens and G11 very easily for added performance too.

(see my profile for a safe store link)

Simyager
10-23-2010, 02:11 PM
How is the battery life on the SmartQ V7 and are the OSes as fluid as on the A81E and where did you guys get it?:)

The battery life on A81E on Android 2.2 50% brightness:
4-5hours video playback with wifi
6-7 hours (video?) without wifi:thumbsup:
source: digital8.org/reviews/wits-a81e-review-1767.html

And does anyone have a good place where to buy them? And has anyone have good experiences with www.eletroworld.cn .

What I love about A81E is GPS and replaceable battery, what I like about SmartQ V7 is Ubuntu,USB Host which recognizes USB-dongles,HDMI-out and btw how is the quality of HDMI?:chinscratch:

eksor
11-10-2010, 05:23 AM
How is the battery life on the SmartQ V7 and are the OSes as fluid as on the A81E and where did you guys get it?:)

The battery life on A81E on Android 2.2 50% brightness:
4-5hours video playback with wifi
6-7 hours (video?) without wifi:thumbsup:
source: digital8.org/reviews/wits-a81e-review-1767.html

And does anyone have a good place where to buy them? And has anyone have good experiences with www.eletroworld.cn .

What I love about A81E is GPS and replaceable battery, what I like about SmartQ V7 is Ubuntu,USB Host which recognizes USB-dongles,HDMI-out and btw how is the quality of HDMI?:chinscratch:

V7 with ubuntu recognizes USB-dongles, and usb hub, wireless mouse, keyboard all in the same hub, at the same time.

I use ubuntu+xournal to annotate pdf, it works fine (well, some times crashes with a 16 MB, 220 pages pdf )

I browse the web with dolphin in android.

And, finally, I read comics with MMCE in CE.

There are issues with SDHC class 10 16 GB, recognized in android and ubuntu, not in CE.

Unable to use an external keyb in android or CE via usb, bluetooth not tested.

A2DP bluetooth works in android.

battery life, may be 6-7 hours of normal use, battery metter very inaccurate, different stock OSes report different remaining battery, android>linux>CE.

Follow this link if you want to boot CE http://www.smartqmid.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1992

HDMI not tested yet

Gps tested with ubuntu & TangoGPS, works.

Regards