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Nightwing
11-07-2006, 08:58 PM
After visiting Borders this afternoon and we went through their Brown cases. And from some of the information posted.

I am wondering now if Sony has a major problem with their add on cases...

The one I saw were off by varying degrees. I kept the one that had the least amount of of alingement. Have 30 days to take it back... And may try Frys tomorrow.

Also if you can post how tight or loose the Hub is with your reader.

Tnks!

Boyodublin
11-14-2006, 11:29 PM
I received my reader and a brown case yesterday. The case is being sent back today. I Couldn't get the reader to allign correctly with it. It seems that the snap connection is not lined-up correctly. Anyway, I think I almost squashed the guts out of the reader while trying to get this bloody thing to fit... I gave up and am sending it back... The cover that the unit comes with is fine...

Nightwing
11-15-2006, 02:55 AM
Tnks for the report...

Both Frys and Compusa do not have the extra covers in yet.

To the 2 that had the brown case. Wondering if the rings also fit. The one I tried feels like the wrong specs on the ring dimensions also...

Booky McGee
11-15-2006, 09:27 AM
It took several minutes(and a lot of patience) to get my brown case lined up, but once it was in, it holds solid. The difference was about 5 degrees or less to the left, so the lower right corner of the Reader is just barely poking out when you look at it with the case closed.

The experience is definately not the same as putting on the stock case, but I do like the leather one better than the stock. I don't feel as bad about bending the flap all the way back.

SoCal Bob
11-15-2006, 11:32 AM
My Brown leather case is misaligned. The lower left corner and upper right corner are about 1/16" from the upper and lower edges of the cover. The lower right side of the reader is even with the back.

The hub is very tight, and is a concern given the amount of pressure it takes to mount the cover. I'm definitely a candidate for a higher end, well fitting cover.

Nightwing
11-15-2006, 01:35 PM
Thats adds to something I found out. Its not a defined off but varies.

And the clip feels out of spect. The stock case feels much better clicking on.

If Sony keeps producing off clipped cases will keep the best and file it to fit.

I like the leather one also but for 40 and does not fits is a bit much.

Tnks for all of your comments.

Fitzwaryn
11-17-2006, 06:32 AM
I had the same problem when I got the leather cover... the connector being off by several degrees. I was going to send it back then said to heck with it and hacked it.

Just take a small knife or razor and trim the openings slots in the connector on the cover a wee bit till you can attach the reader and rotate it to the right position. It will still connect firmly it just is free to rotate slightly, depending on how much you trim.

Then just take a couple pieces of tape rolled up and stick one high and one low to keep the reader from rotating. Had mine this way for a month now with no problem whatsoever.

And even though I did like the stock cover... I like the leather one better. It has a better feel to it.

atreis
11-19-2006, 12:44 PM
Just got around to putting on the leather cover I bought with the reader (brown) and it works fine. Putting it on is scary with how hard you have to press, even with the reader laying flat on a table, but it went on okay, magnets are fine, and the alignment is good.

Greg G
01-22-2007, 06:55 PM
I finally gave the cover a try fully expecting it to not fit right. My expectations where met. It is off by a good amount. The cover sticks out on one end and does not cover it enough on the other. Too bad they sell these in those stupid blister packs that you can't open easily. I would have prefered to bring my reader in and try them until one works. I may do that anyway but the store may end up with a pile to send back.

Greg G
01-23-2007, 11:42 AM
I exchanged the case at Borders today but they gave me a hard time saying that Sony does not want these being returned to the stores. They did it when I indicated that I had asked about returnability when I bought it knowing the potential for getting a faulty product. The second case is better but still not perfect. I wonder if any of these things really fit. I suspect that those that said it does are just less picky than those of us who say it does not. It does close fine so I'm going to keep it. I hope someone like vajacases comes out with a higher quality product though.

Nightwing
01-23-2007, 11:48 AM
Have come to the conclusion they have a major problem with who ever is the subcontractor of the case's.

When I go into stors that have visited for cases I keep getting before I say anything of Nop. No news ones in. Hope that is a good sign.

ogghead
01-23-2007, 01:18 PM
We have three Sony Readers, and three cases (one of each color).

The first green case we bought had the magnets installed backwards. Yes, really. So it could not be closed, since the magnets repelled each other in that configuration.

We sent it back and bought one at a Borders, and it was fine. The brown case we bought was perfect. The red one is very slightly askew, such that the top and bottom of the case are slightly off with respect to the body of the PRS unit. It is minor enough not to bother me at all, but I can see that if it were only slightly more askew it would be a big problem.

HarryT
01-25-2007, 03:19 AM
I've just got a brown case (thanks to "anorak"!) and it's slightly - perhaps 5 degrees - askew. It still completely "covers" the Reader, so I'm not bothered, but you have to wonder why they can't line the connectors up correctly. There doesn't seem to be any issue with the standard vinyl cover. I wonder if, perhaps, the vinyl covers are machine made, but the fastener is put on my hand on the leather covers?

RSaunders
01-25-2007, 01:42 PM
I've just got a brown case (thanks to "anorak"!) and it's slightly - perhaps 5 degrees - askew. It still completely "covers" the Reader, so I'm not bothered, but you have to wonder why they can't line the connectors up correctly. There doesn't seem to be any issue with the standard vinyl cover. I wonder if, perhaps, the vinyl covers are machine made, but the fastener is put on my hand on the leather covers?
I think that's the cause. I have a brown leather cover that is very close to aligned. The back cover matches well, and the top cover is 1/16" off at the bottom. I attribute that to the bow they form into the cover to keep it off the screen and buttons. Plus, the magnet's not exactly at the corner. The vinyl one aligns perfectly.

Leaping Gnome
01-29-2007, 09:43 AM
I picked up a red leather case this weekend at Sony Style in Cincinnati. Count me under "this case is crooked". It kind of sucks, it's otherwise a pretty nice cover, but the Reader is not even with the case, it is probably off about 15 degrees with the right side dipping down. You can look at the plastic hub in the leather and tell by eye that it is not lined up properly. I agree with the idea that they are probably hand made, but I'm no engineer and I can think up at least four or five ways off the top of my head to make sure they line up properly by hand so that's not really a good excuse.

I want to return it, but the Sony store is over a hundred miles from me and I won't be back up there for about two months, and they have a 30 day return policy. So not sure what I'm going to do yet.

memobug
01-30-2007, 07:46 AM
I've just got a brown case (thanks to "anorak"!) and it's slightly - perhaps 5 degrees - askew.

Five degrees is pretty huge!

http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathFun/protractor.png

ten of War
02-01-2007, 07:39 PM
My clips line up fine but the magnet on the top corner is reversed so that when I try to close the cover, it shifts up and away.

Does anyone know of any other covers being made by third party manufacturers?

NatCh
02-01-2007, 08:03 PM
M-Edge (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8180) does, and it looks like they have a new leather variant (http://www.buymedge.com/p_sonyreader_leather.HTML).

Leaping Gnome
02-02-2007, 02:24 PM
Looks a lot better than the other one they made. But they really need different colors I think to distinguish from the regular included black cover and encourage more people to buy it.

NatCh
02-02-2007, 03:04 PM
:shrug: I guess I'm boring, I prefer the black, but I agree that other options would be nice -- I don't mind you getting what you want if I can also have what I want. :nice:

What I don't get is why they decided to include a pen loop. :blink:

yvanleterrible
02-02-2007, 04:30 PM
Maybe it was designed for a dayly planner and got sidetracked because of it's size?

Or, shall we hope, there's an input capable successor???

NatCh
02-02-2007, 10:30 PM
I've run across a rumor that some of the Sony cases are turning up with stickers in/on them with a message to the effect of: "If you have any trouble with the Reader Cover Please call 1-800-728-2609"

If it pans out, it would seem to suggest that they're aware of the case issue and trying to do something about it. :shrug:

HarryT
02-05-2007, 04:09 AM
I want to return it, but the Sony store is over a hundred miles from me

Mine is about 3,000 miles away, so it's slightly more difficult :grin:. Luckily mine isn't so far off-true that I can't live with it.

HarryT
02-05-2007, 04:10 AM
Have come to the conclusion they have a major problem with who ever is the subcontractor of the case's.


According to the insert in the case package, they are made by Targus.

Aprilbeginnings
02-05-2007, 07:25 AM
M-Edge (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8180) does, and it looks like they have a new leather variant (http://www.buymedge.com/p_sonyreader_leather.HTML).

I wrote to them yesterday about this. Here is what they had to say. :)

Dear Karen,
Our leather case is designed to replace the standard Sony case and therefore does not allow the reader to slide in with the standard case attached. Our leather case is essentially a competing case that we believe provides superior protection and aesthetics, in addition to improved functionality (integrated pockets and pen loop for those that may take notes while reading).

Our non-black leather jackets (most likely red and brown) should be available within the next 1 to 2 months.

The sleeve jacket is designed to slide over the reader and provides protection for "on the go" reading. We find a lot of customers purchase this jacket so they can use their reader at the gym or environments that require a higher level of protection (e.g. we have sold this case to customers who are using it at the beach and even in a wood shop).

If you decide to make a purchase, we offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee that allows you to return your jacket for a full refund if you are not completely satisfied.

Lastly, note that our expected ship date for the Sony Reader Leather Jacket is going to slip by about 1.5 weeks to 16 Feb 07.

Thanks for your interest in our products, and feel free to contact us at this email address if you have any additional questions.

Mookie
02-11-2007, 05:36 AM
I also bought a red cover at Borders and found it to be so badly aligned that the reader stuck out at 1 corner and wouldn't properly close. I went back a week later and exchanged it for another red cover. Fortunately I opened that one in the store and found that it the same problem.

I was looking for a cover that was a bit more robust than the vinyl cover included in the PRS-500 box. Anyone find an alternative? Does anyone know how the reader attaches to the M-Edge??

Thanks

Aprilbeginnings
02-11-2007, 08:13 AM
I also bought a red cover at Borders and found it to be so badly aligned that the reader stuck out at 1 corner and wouldn't properly close. I went back a week later and exchanged it for another red cover. Fortunately I opened that one in the store and found that it the same problem.

I was looking for a cover that was a bit more robust than the vinyl cover included in the PRS-500 box. Anyone find an alternative? Does anyone know how the reader attaches to the M-Edge??

Thanks

I am going to wait for the m-edge, but writing to them, they should be getting red and brown. I just wrote them again yesterday asking them this exact same question. If it attaches with that thing in the back. Will let everyone know what is said.

Leaping Gnome
02-11-2007, 09:26 AM
It looked to me like the M-Edge sits in sort of a pouch, it slides in and there is material at the bottom to stop it from sliding on through - like most iPod cases.

Aprilbeginnings
02-11-2007, 11:26 AM
That is the sleeve jacket..... they also have a leather Jacket for it now..... I don't want the pouch...
Here is the link to the picture of the Leather Jacket.....will also be coming in Red and Brown, from what they are telling me.

http://www.buymedge.com/Images/sonyreader/sonyreaderLeather_open.jpg

NatCh
02-11-2007, 01:18 PM
From the M-Edge Reader cover thread (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57662#post57662) :wink::

To answer some of your questions;
1) The rigid material in our leather jacket is plastic.
2) Our jacket is designed to replace the stock reader case; so the reader will not fit into the M-edge jacket with the stock case attached.
3) We do not use the Sony "snap-lock" design to attach the reader to our jacket. The reader slides in behind a leather rim that holds the reader in place.
4) The reader will need to be removed from the jacket in order to fit into the dock.
5) We ship internationally from our website (www.buymedge.com); however, we are working on developing a european distribution channel.

Aprilbeginnings
02-11-2007, 02:33 PM
Intresting about this part. *) The reader will need to be removed from the jacket in order to fit into the dock.* because their websight states this.

Even while closed, you’ll find access to all ports, so you never need to remove your reader for synching or charging.

now perhaps it won't work if you have the docking station, but for those of us with the regular plug in from the wall charger it should work.

I was also told there is a complete satisfaction guarantee on the thing and to return if you are not happy.

Leaping Gnome
02-11-2007, 03:28 PM
That is the sleeve jacket..... they also have a leather Jacket for it now..... I don't want the pouch...
Here is the link to the picture of the Leather Jacket.....will also be coming in Red and Brown, from what they are telling me.

I of course meant the leather jacket, as it is a leather competitor to the Sony leather cases.

Mookie
02-11-2007, 08:53 PM
You all convinced me. I just pre-ordered the black Sony Reader Leather eMotion Jacket.
Thanks

Aprilbeginnings
02-12-2007, 07:15 AM
You all convinced me. I just pre-ordered the black Sony Reader Leather eMotion Jacket.
Thanks

Please let us know how you like it when you receive it. :)

Mookie
02-13-2007, 06:53 PM
Ship date for the Sony Reader emotion jacket just slipped from 2/15 to 3/1. They already hit my credit card. I would've expected them to not debit until the item was ready to ship. A bit of a disappointment there.

(see new posting below - they had slipped the public date when they sold their lot BUT will ship the first batch on time - impressive)

Aprilbeginnings
02-13-2007, 07:08 PM
Perhaps they did ship it then earlier than expected? Maybe they received a small shipment in themselves?

Just remember they have a 100% guarantee regardless and will also pay back shipping if need be. They sound like a decent and honest company from what I can tell. Always prompt anwering a question. Don't find many company's that do that.

Mookie
02-13-2007, 07:18 PM
You were 100% correct. They notified my my jacket will ship on 2/15. I am chagrined. I sent a query and they responded within 10 minutes. Amazing.

I will post pics and impressions once it arrives.

Aprilbeginnings
02-13-2007, 07:23 PM
Look forward to it. Also curious as to how that thing fits in the sleeve part, or where it slides in. Top, side? I just wish they would hurry with the colors. If Sony offers that DB one seperate before the colors come out there is going to be competition, and well if the price is right... I just really like the looks of that DB one.

Leaping Gnome
02-13-2007, 08:52 PM
D&B will probably be at least $100 based on their other product prices.

Aprilbeginnings
02-14-2007, 09:16 AM
Probably true and if so, probably more than I would be willing to spend. But I do weird off the wall things at times, so ya never know. If one was sitting in front of my face <G>

Mookie
02-18-2007, 05:26 AM
Just notified that the jacket ship date has slipped.

"Due to a shipping issue our ship date for this item has slipped to 28 Feb 2007. We very much apologize for this additional delay."

Well, at least they notified me and offered a refund.

I replied that I'll wait UNLESS they are near to announcing a red jacket, in which case I asked them to switch my order...

Aprilbeginnings
02-18-2007, 08:25 AM
yes, that is nice of them to let you know about the delay. I don't see any problems with this company at all. I know I would appreciate the email and notice that you got.

:)

Mookie
02-18-2007, 09:54 PM
Just received word from M-Edge that the red version should be available by the end of March. I've asked them to adjust my order. I can be patient (maybe) for a red jacket.

Aprilbeginnings
02-19-2007, 07:18 AM
End of March for the Red one? :( Oh well, I guess I can wait, having a Jacket doesn't make the book read any better. Guess we won't be getting an early review now from you on the black one. Well maybe someone else around here will want a black one and purchase it. At least we know for sure they will have Red.


Thanks for the additional information. I was going to ask you what they said about the Red. You beat me to it <G>

Mookie
02-19-2007, 05:40 PM
OK, now we're on Plan B (or maybe D, E or F?).

I was just notified M-Edge can now ship the original jacket tomorrow (Tuesday 2/20). So I changed my order BACK to the original...

More to follow...

Aprilbeginnings
02-19-2007, 05:55 PM
You poor thing. Well I wish they would make up their minds for your sake. I also know you would love the RED one and now it appears you will be getting the black one. I hope this time it is shipped and they aren't waffling again for whatever reason.

Mookie
02-27-2007, 05:30 AM
I received the M-Edge Sony Reader Leather eMotion Jacket today.

The exterior leather is much softer than the Sony leather cover. The craftsmanship is visibly superior with the stitching being much finer than the Sony.

The Sony PRS-500 slides into the jacket from the top with openings in the sleeve front and along the sides giving access to all controls and connections.

There are pockets for business cards and additional storage cards. There is also a pen holder along the side.

All in all a better quality then the Sony at the same price.

I'll post photos later tonight.

regards,
Alex

Aprilbeginnings
02-27-2007, 07:22 AM
Mookie, how does that thing flip back to read. On another thread someone else got theirs and they were like perhaps 50/50 on the jacket and didn't like the quality as well. So here I sit wondering which one I should get, this one or go to a sony store. Of course if I ordered this one I remember they stand behind their 30 gaurantee if you don't like it and I am one of those gals that will return an item if I am not pleased with it.


Hoping more reviews come in before the red version is available, LOL

Mookie
02-27-2007, 10:27 AM
The m-edge jacket "binding" is approximately 1/2 wide. When folded, either the top overlaps the bottom by 1/2 inch or the bottom sticks out 1/2 inch.

erasure25
03-02-2007, 11:44 AM
My red case is pretty good. But it is shifted counterclockwise by about 1 degree or maybe 0.5 degrees. It's not a big deal, but you can tell it's just ever so slightly off if you look carefully.

But it's better than the black case it came with. The black case gives me the chills when I rub on it with my hands... something about the tiny ridges always give me the chills.

atreis
03-02-2007, 06:53 PM
M-Edge case looks nice, but they need to offer it in colors other than black...

Aprilbeginnings
03-02-2007, 07:01 PM
M-Edge case looks nice, but they need to offer it in colors other than black...

They will be....... Red and Brown are supposedly in the works and possibly be up at the sight sometime in March as told to me by their company when I emailed them with tons of questions. So just keep your eyes open and keep checking.

vampmiller
05-07-2007, 09:03 PM
I really, really wanted one of the red Sony leather covers.
Borders store #1 had six in stock. The first one was off about 5 degrees, enough that the bottom left side of the reader poked out. The manager went ahead and opened all six to find they were all off.
Borders store #2 had four in stock. Guess what?
So I dragged my sorry ass to the Metreon Sony store and told them of the issue and they opened two to find they were also way off. Determination won out. The 13th opened red leather cover was okay. And by okay I mean it's about one degree off. Proof that I'm not obsessive compulsive is that I bought it am reasonably happy with it.

NatCh
05-07-2007, 10:30 PM
Congratulations on your persistence paying off! :beam:

astra
05-08-2007, 06:12 AM
I really, really wanted one of the red Sony leather covers.
Borders store #1 had six in stock. The first one was off about 5 degrees, enough that the bottom left side of the reader poked out. The manager went ahead and opened all six to find they were all off.
Borders store #2 had four in stock. Guess what?
So I dragged my sorry ass to the Metreon Sony store and told them of the issue and they opened two to find they were also way off. Determination won out. The 13th opened red leather cover was okay. And by okay I mean it's about one degree off. Proof that I'm not obsessive compulsive is that I bought it am reasonably happy with it.

Damn.
I thought of ordering one in the middle of June from the USA (someone is visiting the UK later and they would bring it to me), but now I am even more adamant not to do it, unless they start selling it in the UK :( I really really want to have the leather cover but I cannot afford ordering it from the USA and receiving a faulty one :(
Argh...
(Actually, I was planning to start a new topic in about 1 month time asking people whether the latest covers are of better quality than the first stock, completely useless idea now).

Aprilbeginnings
05-08-2007, 08:53 AM
I really, really wanted one of the red Sony leather covers.
Borders store #1 had six in stock. The first one was off about 5 degrees, enough that the bottom left side of the reader poked out. The manager went ahead and opened all six to find they were all off.
Borders store #2 had four in stock. Guess what?
So I dragged my sorry ass to the Metreon Sony store and told them of the issue and they opened two to find they were also way off. Determination won out. The 13th opened red leather cover was okay. And by okay I mean it's about one degree off. Proof that I'm not obsessive compulsive is that I bought it am reasonably happy with it.

I hope they send them all back to Sony and tell them about the problem. Sony should know about this, why aren't they doing anything about it? Unless of course the stores are just putting them back on the shelves for someone else and their thinking maybe it won't bother them any! :(

NatCh
05-08-2007, 10:26 AM
I'm fairly confident that Sony knows about it. Evidently the cases are made by a third party vendor, so it's not Sony making them directly. :shrug:

squeezlet
05-09-2007, 10:08 PM
I received my red cover on Monday and it also was off at the bottom corner. I called the number on the packaging and they said that they would send me another. They didn't even want the other one back. I'm hoping that I won't have the same problem with the next one.

astra
05-10-2007, 04:27 AM
I called the number on the packaging and they said that they would send me another.

This is the advantage of having the reader being sold in your country :) That's why I am looking forward for Sony to start selling the reader in the UK.

JSWolf
05-10-2007, 08:31 AM
How much are the add on cases Sony sells?

astra
05-10-2007, 08:39 AM
JSWolf
How much are the add on cases Sony sells?

I think $40.

JSWolf
05-10-2007, 04:59 PM
JSWolf


I think $40.
Too much since the case that comes with the reader is just fine.

squeezlet
05-10-2007, 08:12 PM
How much are the add on cases Sony sells?

I paid $39.99 for my case.

I also received my replacement case today and it fits perfectly.

Rocketime
06-06-2007, 05:16 PM
Thanks for all the hands on reviews and expertise regarding Sony Reader covers. I wish the Sony leather worked for everyone but appearantly they don't.

I wanted a leather case but I think I'll keep the one that fits.

NatCh
06-06-2007, 05:21 PM
If you can find a place that has them in stock, they may let you try them to make sure they're straight ....

JSWolf
06-06-2007, 05:33 PM
If you can find a place that has them in stock, they may let you try them to make sure they're straight ....
I don't see why not as all you'd end up doing is returning it and this way, they have a chance to weed out some of the defective product.

Rocketime
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm thinking M-Edge now for my cover replacement. I don't like slip in covers as they cover up the reader more than I desire but I can't find a replacement for the origional cover that comes with the reader. Does anyone sell them?

astra
06-07-2007, 04:14 AM
I'm thinking M-Edge now for my cover replacement. I don't like slip in covers as they cover up the reader more than I desire but I can't find a replacement for the origional cover that comes with the reader. Does anyone sell them?

If I were you, I would follow NatCh's advice.

imaredr
06-22-2007, 01:20 PM
The first red cover I bought was really off and I sent it back. I bought a new one at Borders which was also off, but not as bad as the first. I decided to stretch the leather to fit. This may or may not work for everyone. I took some web straps that came with a protable DVD carrier and the adjustable armband from DAP case and put it on the reader. I would do it every night after reading and left it on when I wasn't using the reader. I did this for about a week or so . When putting on the straps I made sure that the bottom one wasn't so tight that it depressed the jog wheel type button. In fact, you don't want any of the straps too tight just snug enough that it forces the cover to fit over the device correctly. Here are my photos below. Hopefully, this all makes sense. In the picture I have the stap connect on the top. If you are afraid of screen damage you could have them on the bottom.

Ellen

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b60/eniage/SANY0040Small.jpghttp://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b60/eniage/SANY0041Small.jpghttp://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b60/eniage/SANY0042Small.jpg