scotty1024
11-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Anyone interested in this?
I've got it working, including screen refresh.
Let me know.
I've got it working, including screen refresh.
Let me know.
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View Full Version : x48 calculator for iLiad scotty1024 11-02-2006, 10:27 PM Anyone interested in this? I've got it working, including screen refresh. Let me know. segatang 11-03-2006, 12:11 AM Wow, it's pretty cooooool! How about its refresh performance after input numbers? scotty, Can you upload your fiiles? Thanks~ lufee 11-03-2006, 12:33 AM its so cooooooooooool and i like it very much ,can you refresh it in iliad ? pdam 11-03-2006, 03:36 AM That is brilliant, looks fantastic - is there an easy way to install it? Bob Russell 11-03-2006, 05:43 AM Very cool. Two of my favorite calculators ever are the HP 15C and the HP28S -- I have an American Mathematics 100 year aniversary edition! They just don't make them like they used to, and I guess they don't make them RPN anymore at all. :( Devlar 11-03-2006, 05:49 AM That's pretty awesome, Illiad's usefulness has just improved ^_^ Another good question would be how you took that screencapture scotty1024 11-03-2006, 07:40 AM That's pretty awesome, Illiad's usefulness has just improved ^_^ Another good question would be how you took that screencapture Thank you. The screen capture tool is in the projects download area here on Mobile Read. It's called fbshot. You can see more of it in action over in the idjvu thread. scotty1024 11-03-2006, 07:45 AM That is brilliant, looks fantastic - is there an easy way to install it? At present you need 2.7 and the willingness to use the exploit. Irex contacted me this morning and they are interested in exploring the possibility of mainstreaming it or making it an optional download via iDS. So hang tight everyone. arivero 11-03-2006, 07:52 AM Irex contacted me this morning and they are interested in exploring the possibility of mainstreaming it or making it an optional download via iDS. Hmm it should be an optional download, because the user would get the ROM via http://developer.berlios.de/projects/x48/. I can imagine the face of iRex lawyers :rolleyes: Also note http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10186 that the way of uploading software into the calculator is sort of peculiar. It seems they use Kermit via some pseudoterminal device. scotty1024 11-03-2006, 07:59 AM Wow, it's pretty cooooool! How about its refresh performance after input numbers? scotty, Can you upload your fiiles? Thanks~ Refresh is much like the performance using the on screen keyboard of the iLiad. X48 itself is an X 11 Saturn CPU emulator. It runs the actual ROM code from an HP 48 SX/GX so you get all the features of the selected calculator. You can even "plug in" expansion packs. You can learn more about it here: http://x48.berlios.de/. The real trick on the iLiad is in figuring out where and how to insert the screen refresh code (as well as compile several needed libraries). I'm also working on getting an HP11C, HP15C and HP16C up as well. And again, thanks to Antartica for his tool chain (available here in the projects download section of Mobile Read). Couldn't have done it with out your hard work. Thanks also to Design256 for his er_registry.txt hack to launch .sh scripts. That truly makes this a useful tool under 2.7. scotty1024 11-03-2006, 08:05 AM Hmm it should be an optional download, because the user would get the ROM via http://developer.berlios.de/projects/x48/. I can imagine the face of iRex lawyers :rolleyes: Also note http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10186 that the way of uploading software into the calculator is sort of peculiar. It seems they use Kermit via some pseudoterminal device. The HP 48 series has built in serial and IR ports. Both are emulated. The Kermit interface was built into the HP 48 calculator so there is nothing "peculiar" about it. :) There are also tools to build card files which you can then "insert". arivero 11-03-2006, 08:06 AM Speaking of emulators... Anyone for Basilisk (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=615)? Matthijs 11-03-2006, 08:27 AM Hmm, the licensing of the ROM files is indeed troubling. iRex could never distribute them using iDS. That is too bad... :( scotty1024 11-03-2006, 08:35 AM Hmm, the licensing of the ROM files is indeed troubling. iRex could never distribute them using iDS. That is too bad... :( Actually you would want the ROM files on a memory card. After the iDS install you would then download the ROM image and place it on the memory card. The created HP memory cards would also be installed onto the memory card. Not a problem. vranghel 11-03-2006, 12:41 PM Thats a really cool program scotty! I dont mean to be a pain but could you/ would you be willing/able to do the same thing with Texas Intstrument's TI 83 or TI89 graphing calculators? Its a really useful graphing calculator that most students in use it. scotty1024 11-03-2006, 02:45 PM RPN isn't for every one is it, sigh... scotty1024 11-04-2006, 11:30 AM I looked into the TI series emulators. Big mess, HP has made ROM images downloadble, TI hasn't. You must suck a ROM out of your TI calculator to install a ROM into an emulator. I was able to compile tilem for the iLiad but after discovering the ROM situation it didn't seem worth the effort to locate the points to insert the refresh logic. :( R2D2 11-04-2006, 12:42 PM Thanks Scotty, I would like to have it (over IDS). One item less to carry around... Great work! vranghel 11-04-2006, 01:16 PM I looked into the TI series emulators. Big mess, HP has made ROM images downloadble, TI hasn't. You must suck a ROM out of your TI calculator to install a ROM into an emulator. I was able to compile tilem for the iLiad but after discovering the ROM situation it didn't seem worth the effort to locate the points to insert the refresh logic. :( OK, scotty. Thanks for at least looking into it. Alexander Turcic 11-06-2006, 10:23 AM Wow, Scotty, the photo is breathtaking! Compliments again to you... yokos 11-06-2006, 10:39 AM hpcalc.org (http://www.hpcalc.org/) is quite interesting. There you can find a HP 48 section with emulators etc. arivero 11-06-2006, 12:01 PM RPN isn't for every one is it, sigh... Hmm it is a HP48, isnt it? It can evaluate expressions in standard notation. I believe to remember that it is done by enclosing the expression in simple quotes. That was in the HP28; the HP48 had, I believe, some way to conmute between RPN and standard, beyond the quotes. But I can be wrong here. The HP48 was supossed to be, time ago, the culmination of calculators. It was the combination of HP-41 plus HP-28. As the 41, it had the possibility of reading IE3 data, HPIB bus interfaces, etc. As the 28, it was able to do analitical calculus, derivatives, Taylor series expansion and such. scotty1024 11-06-2006, 04:03 PM Wow, Scotty, the photo is breathtaking! Compliments again to you... Thanks Alex. I worked on it off and on for two weeks to get the configuration right, linking to work, screen refresh to work as well as it's going to get on the iLiad's e-Ink panel. I find it very useful (but then I've had an HP48 at my desk for 16 years) but the whole ROM thing seems to have put the kibosh to it. I've got a start on a CBR plug in for my pluggable ipdf but now I wonder if that plug in should be released??? ./ipdf Yume_no_Shiro_v01_Story1_\[DV\].zip Reading/decoding PNG's and JPG's directly out of ZIP files is a bit of effort in C, but I got it working. :) jęd 11-07-2006, 03:53 AM I've got a start on a CBR plug in for my pluggable ipdf but now I wonder if that plug in should be released??? Sounds handy...! But isn't CBR based on RAR...? I thought CBZ was the zip based implementation...? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDisplay_RAR_Archived_Comic_Book_File scotty1024 11-07-2006, 08:03 AM CBR/CBZ it's all the same: Uninstallable by your average Joe. :( scotty1024 11-07-2006, 04:19 PM Assuming no one finds any problems with my proposed [SHELL] hack installer I'll post a standalone x48 ZIP that can be unpacked onto a memory device and then run via the [SHELL] hack (much like the modified gnuchess I put together for Design256). The one extra bit of work: you would need to go on the net and download your own ROM image and copy it into the unpacked directory yourself. As a bonus feature I'll include two ROM fetcher scripts. One will fire up wired ethernet and then wget the ROM into the right place, the other will fire up the wireless and fetch the ROM. scotty1024 11-12-2006, 07:53 PM Here is my port of x48 to the iLiad. Extract the zip file into an MMC/CF card or into your iLiad's internal drive. Then with the [SHELL] hack installed navigate to where you extracted it and run the "run.sh" script. Please note, if you turn the calculator off? It turns off, and waits for you to turn it back on. :) To quit use the X button in the upper right. When you quit it saves its state and will come back right where you left it. tribble 11-13-2006, 02:10 AM That looks really nice scotty. BTW, has anyone found a way to get into 2.7.1? yokos 11-13-2006, 06:02 AM scotty1024, I owe you something. :sweethear A big thank you! Now I have to learn to use it right. I own a old Casio Graphing Calculator, but this looks completely different. It's time to remove my hardware calculator [a Casio solar non-graphing calculator] out of my backback. :happy2: I found a User's Guide [600 pages, 28 MB] & a Quick Start Guide @ HP's website (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?cc=us&dlc=en&product=60713&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN). yokos 11-15-2006, 07:58 AM You have to read the QSG [links are posted], otherwise you can't understand what's going on, when you start x48. A con of the manuals on HP's website is they don't have any hyperlink, so I created ones. PM me if you want a edited version [files are too large to post here I think] source code of x48 which scotty used to port it you can find here (http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/). jęd 11-15-2006, 08:07 AM source code of x48 which scotty used to port it you can find here (http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/). I think the next project for Scotty should be a port of "diff"... :D R2D2 11-15-2006, 10:41 AM I think the next project for Scotty should be a port of "diff"... :D I disagree. His next job should be the portation or at least emulation of Newton OS. ;-) scotty1024 11-15-2006, 03:35 PM I disagree. His next job should be the portation or at least emulation of Newton OS. ;-) There is no source for Einstein. I tried the Zaurus binary and got: root@ereader:/media/cf/einstein# ./einstein 747129 Welcome to Einstein console. This is Einstein Platform 2006.6. This program will expire on February, 27, 2007. Creating image... Einstein REX seems corrupted Aborted R2D2 11-15-2006, 03:39 PM :-( I had the feeling, that you already tried. ;-) scotty1024 11-15-2006, 04:53 PM That ROM image from my MP2100 works great under the Mac OS X version of the emulator. If the source were available I'd be more than happy to port it! But ROM's would be about as problematical as the TI calculators. Unlike with the TI calculator, where I was facing needing to spend $130 + VAT for a calculator I had no use for so I could suck its ROM to continue porting, I had previously sucked my MP2100. :) vranghel 11-15-2006, 07:27 PM Is there a way i could provide you with the ROM from my TI83? scotty1024 11-16-2006, 12:13 PM Here is the .2 re-pack for x48 as well. It is .1 with the manifest.xml and PNG added. Enjoy. scotty1024 11-16-2006, 12:15 PM Is there a way i could provide you with the ROM from my TI83? Do you know how to suck the ROM out of a TI83? You could buy a busted one on eBay, write my name on it, store it away, and send me the ROM from your working TI83. :-) The code was compiled and development halted when it begged for a ROM image. vranghel 11-16-2006, 01:03 PM Do you know how to suck the ROM out of a TI83? You could buy a busted one on eBay, write my name on it, store it away, and send me the ROM from your working TI83. :-) The code was compiled and development halted when it begged for a ROM image. Unfortunately i dont know how to extract the rom from a device. Will the calculator become unuseable? Is there a Win app that will allow me to do that? Also, i didnt understand the part with buying a broken one from ebay and storing it away... scotty1024 11-16-2006, 02:18 PM The process looks pretty simple, they have a USB tool that you put on the calculator and it allows the ROM to be transfered via USB to your PC. Links available upon request. You would be "holding" the license for my development ROM by storing away the broken TI83. Of course if you would rather buy a used working one or a brand new one, its your money. I figured buying a broken one made the most sense. It would also be wonderful if I could count on you for a step by step guide and support for users needing to suck their ROMs. To send me the ROM file I'd prefer if you would upload it to http://rapidshare.de (not rapidshare.com) and PM me the download link. Depending on load, you'd likely have your working port in less than a week. vranghel 11-16-2006, 02:28 PM This is a link with instructions on how to extract the ROM out of your Texas Instruments TI 82, 83, 85, 86, 89, 92, 92 Plus calculator How to extract the ROM from your TI calculator (http://www.ticalc.org/programming/emulators/romdump.html) henkvdg 11-16-2006, 02:46 PM Here is the .2 re-pack for x48 as well. It is .1 with the manifest.xml and PNG added. Enjoy. This is a great example of how easy to install and easy to use software packages should look ! Thanks, Scotty Is it possible to have GNU Chess like that. I would like it more in a window with a close box. Now I do not know how to close it. And what about FBShot, how to use it? Henk scotty1024 11-16-2006, 03:51 PM Thanks Henk, I appreciate your feedback! I've updated my packaging of Design256's gnuchess port. Its his port, all I did was package it. You'll have to contact him for enhancements/support. I've opened a FBShot discussion thread. haasiesoft 08-31-2007, 03:23 AM hi there, what i have to do for installing the calculator on a new iliad 2.10.2 ? did i need the developer pack from the irex homepage (register - developer) or can i use the file via cf card ? - or are the "iliad" hacks only for linux cracks ? thx hs yokos 08-31-2007, 06:28 AM did i need the developer pack from the irex homepage (register - developer) or can i use the file via cf card ? hs http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/ILiad_FAQ Yes, you need the developer pack, then you can use it on CF/main memory. jak321 12-18-2007, 11:27 PM There is no source for Einstein. There is now: http://www.kallisys.com/newton/einstein/ July 2007, Einstein is open source. reader_newb 04-15-2008, 11:56 AM is the x48_iliad_0.2.zip all I Need to get the Calculator up n running on my iliad 2nd edition with 2.12 ? or Do i still need to find the rom, and stick the rom file somewhere on the iliad ? yokos 04-16-2008, 06:44 AM is the x48_iliad_0.2.zip all I Need to get the Calculator up n running on my iliad 2nd edition with 2.12 ? or Do i still need to find the rom, and stick the rom file somewhere on the iliad ? No, all needed files are included. |