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arivero
10-26-2006, 01:16 PM
Can only Adobe viewers reflow tagged PDF?

that was my guess. And I wonder how many tagged PDF files are around, really. Does "Save as PDF..." in MSWord tags the files?

rlauzon
10-26-2006, 06:06 PM
that was my guess. And I wonder how many tagged PDF files are around, really. Does "Save as PDF..." in MSWord tags the files?

Don't know about MSWord (since I don't use Microsoft products anymore).

But the concept of "tagged PDFs" seems to be very new. The Linux version of the Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 doesn't support reflow. The Windows version of the Reader 6.? on Windows doesn't support reflow.

And, of course, XPDF (and, therefore, the iLiad) doesn't support reflow.

Seeing as how creating a tagged PDF results in a significantly larger PDF, I really don't see much value in using tagged PDFs today.

CommanderROR
10-26-2006, 06:35 PM
OK, so I guess i'll have to stay with the old "reformatting" routine until the HTML viewer gets optimized by someone like Scotty...^^

scotty1024
10-26-2006, 09:08 PM
Tagged PDF's have been around for over 8 years.

Adobe has an auto-tagger but it often doesn't produce properly re-flowable documents.

I think the best hope for proper re-flow is the new eBook standard.

ath
10-27-2006, 02:28 AM
Seeing as how creating a tagged PDF results in a significantly larger PDF, I really don't see much value in using tagged PDFs today.

The main value of it may be more clear when you consider a newspaper in PDF. PDF need not have any structure at all -- it's all about placing snippets of text on a page, but they need not be placed there in any particular order.

Tagging keeps text threads together: the part on the first page that ends 'continue on page 23', and the second page that is broken over two columns. If you want to be able to 'copy thread', there must be some kind of structure tying it all together.

And I have not even touched on accessibility design.

rlauzon
10-27-2006, 03:30 AM
Tagged PDF's have been around for over 8 years.

Adobe has an auto-tagger but it often doesn't produce properly re-flowable documents.

I think the best hope for proper re-flow is the new eBook standard.

But if no reader supports tagged PDFs (as far as producing a different display different than a regular PDF), then tagged PDFs are not "supported".

But I agree with your conclusion: we need a real eBook standard.
A page layout format just doesn't cut it.