View Full Version : How will the new agency rules affect you?


Angst
04-08-2010, 03:43 PM
I'll try not to affect the poll with my comments, but the conclusion is forgone.

dmaul1114
04-08-2010, 03:45 PM
It changes nothing for me. I won't pay more than the cheapest print version for an e-book. The agency model just means there may be a few more books I skip on. But no biggie as there are a gazillion books priced reasonably (or free) for me to read.

So in the poll I'm not sure I can vote as I think I'll be paying pretty much the same I am now--whatever the paperback price on Amazon is, or $9.99 for stuff in hardcover. As that's all I've paid for Kindle books thus far.

Graham
04-08-2010, 03:46 PM
It's too early to say as things are still far from settled.

Steven Lake
04-08-2010, 03:51 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I smell higher prices coming. That's where the little guy will excel, because if the big guys are making you pay through the nose, the little guy can undercut them and win big. So IMHO, this is a win for smaller authors and publishing houses, and a lose for the big guys. And if they get their feet blown out from under them, they only have themselves to blame.

mykoffee
04-08-2010, 03:57 PM
I think you need an option, under the Agency Model I will -

Purchase less ebooks and visit my library and used book store more often.

Linda

Angst
04-08-2010, 04:12 PM
I think you need an option, under the Agency Model I will -

Purchase less ebooks and visit my library and used book store more often.

Linda

:D I can't figure out how to change the poll, or I would! :D

Hellmark
04-08-2010, 05:14 PM
I personally won't change my spending limits. I may buy fewer books because fewer are within my range, but there are also plenty of books that are from places that do not follow the agency model.

dreams
04-08-2010, 05:20 PM
:D I can't figure out how to change the poll, or I would! :D

Find a Mod and ask them to add to it, if you can't do an edit. :)

I personally won't change my spending limits. I may buy fewer books because fewer are within my range, but there are also plenty of books that are from places that do not follow the agency model.

My reasoning also. :2thumbsup (also, sad to say, but I will possibly buy used pbooks for those that I have to have now.)

delphidb96
04-08-2010, 06:50 PM
And with the massive book-jacking (similar to car-jacking but the only victim is my (and then the author's) wallet) that the Big-5s 'Agency' plan has caused, I will certainly be considering the darknet approach far more often. Sorry authors, but you have the Big-5 publishers to thank for this. Please feel free to let them know your displeasure. :)

Derek

JoeD
04-08-2010, 07:43 PM
Not sure how to vote on this one, as none of the options match what I'm willing to do. Whilst I think prices will overall be higher, I certainly won't be paying them. I'll wait until either the price drops or I find something else to read.

That said, whilst Baen books remains, I'm happy either way :)

GhostHawk
04-08-2010, 09:27 PM
None of the above and I'm not fond of your choices.

Laine
04-09-2010, 03:32 PM
Since last year my buying pattern has changed.

I still get Webscriptions from Baen.

I now buy Regency Reads and Harlequin direct and not through Fictionwise as I used to.

Not counting from these publishers - my buying has severely dropped.

1st-8th March - 12 ebooks
1st-8th April - 3 ebooks

I'm discovering there are other places and publishers if you look - and the books you find can be just as entertaining.

Also with the right Audible membership you can get some audiobooks cheaper than the ebook version.

If this fiasco keeps up they'll lose my custom permanently because I'll have filled the gap they made with a product from someone else. (Embroidery kits, petrol for trips to countryside etc)

TallMomof2
04-09-2010, 05:26 PM
I'm not buying any books at the higher prices.

Storm27
04-09-2010, 07:50 PM
So far I'm not buying books under the agency model at all because I can't find a way to do so! (Other threads bear witness to the fact that I'm trying...)

What I do going forward will depend on IF/WHEN the publishers deign to roll their books back out to the retailers. As Harper Collins at least hasn't managed to get their own webstore up and running yet, I'm not holding my breath waiting for anyone else to get them back soon.

But my view of what's a sensible price to pay for a book won't change so my massive TBR stack might go down as I buy less. Since getting my reader I've probably been buying faster than I read so that's not neccessarily a bad thing. Or if they straighten out the prices on their backlists I might buy older books rather than the hottest new thing. Even that will probably mean I buy less though -- if I'm not tempted to buy something by a new author when reviews are coming out then chances are I won't remember to keep checking back to see if the price has come down. That means less established authors might lose out.

Lirael
04-09-2010, 10:51 PM
I'll be paying lower prices for most books - because I'll be using my local library and used bookstore! Hmph! :P

GraceKrispy
04-10-2010, 08:55 PM
I get virtually all my pbooks from the library, and I get many, many of my ebooks the same way. The other ebooks I get through free or very discounted deals. I donʻt purchase new releases, I rarely pay more than $3 or so per ebook. So I donʻt feel like it would really affect me too much. If the price goes much above that, I probably wonʻt purchase. Iʻm not averse to just checking out a pbook for a "must have read" if I canʻt get the eversion for minimal or no cost. I was never a book buyer before, so that hasnʻt changed too much.

Tim32127
04-10-2010, 09:39 PM
I'll spend more because now more of the books I want will be released by the publisher. Unlike alot of members that like to complain, and then admit They never bought the hardcover anyway. I did buy alot of hardcovers and I'll be happy to pay 15.00 for the ebook if it's released with the hardcover. I have and will continue the buy Tor books because they have alot of books I want to read.
Tim..

Skydog
04-10-2010, 09:59 PM
The model will not affect me as much as it will affect the publishers. I will not be buying at the higher prices which means I will be purchasing fewer books.

astra
04-14-2010, 04:33 AM
It changes nothing for me. I won't pay more than the cheapest print version for an e-book
Ditto.

roger the rabbit
04-14-2010, 04:47 AM
No change for me, I will continue to vote with my wallet.

I will buy the most reasonably priced ebook where it is not more than the cheapest pbook version. (Assuming geo restrictions do not prevent me from buying). Otherwise I will obtain what I want by whatever means possible e.g used, library, borrow or whatever.

I have no intention in helping them to impose restrictive practices on me.

jes1
04-14-2010, 10:46 PM
I'll be supporting Baen, Smashwords, Closed Circle, A Writer's Work.. is never done, Samhain, Harlequin and other ebook reader friendly sites more. I am looking at this as a challenge to search out interesting, less known authors and supporting them more directly.

Rich_D
04-14-2010, 10:57 PM
I'm paying for the content, not the medium. For the releases I really want, I'll pay whatever price is posted the day it's released. Most other books I'll try and get from the library. That's the way I purchased books before ebooks, so that's how I'll do it now.

shadowcat1017
04-15-2010, 12:42 AM
I voted "Pay higher prices for most books but lower prices for some" because, while I agree with many people here that this new pricing structure will mean I'll be buying far fewer ebooks, those ebooks that I do buy will probably cost me more than what they used to cost me, especially because I've been buying almost exclusively from Fictionwise, and what with the Buywise club (now gone) and the micropay rebates (also gone on any big 5 books), I was probably paying between $3-4 per ebook (for something currently out in paperback). Based on what I've been seeing, it looks like that cost is likely to go up to $5-7 per ebook. I could be wrong, but that seems to be the general trend on Amazon, B&N.com, and Sony's Reader store. I'll be interested to see how everything ends up shaking down, but I think it's going to be a year or more before we really get to anything approaching a fair pricing system. :angry:

riemann42
04-15-2010, 02:06 AM
As Fictionwise has been gutted, I don't know for sure and have no good way of comparing what prices were before and are now.

I guess I will be buying fewer books without Micropay burning a hole in my pocket.

In the end, I hope to see back catalog works get cheaper, which, for me, are about 80% of by wish list. We'll see.

I'll vote with my wallet like everyone else. I have already bought a couple of $12.99 books, because I wanted them and can't stand hardback books anymore. Hardback books remind me of my daughter's board books. What, are the publishers afraid I am going to chew on the new Jim Butcher novel*?



*I have chew marks on the corner of my nook, from my cat.

riemann42
04-15-2010, 02:10 AM
I was probably paying between $3-4 per ebook (for something currently out in paperback). Based on what I've been seeing, it looks like that cost is likely to go up to $5-7 per ebook.

After fictionwise's end of the year sale, everything seems expensive now!

shadowcat1017
04-15-2010, 04:37 AM
As Fictionwise has been gutted, I don't know for sure and have no good way of comparing what prices were before and are now.

I guess I will be buying fewer books without Micropay burning a hole in my pocket.


I'm pretty sure of my before figures because I used to watch how much I was spending per book with each purchase, and if it was too high, I'd reconsider my purchases, but my before figure and someone else's can certainly vary due to an individual's tendency to buy hardback priced ebooks, Buywise membership, and Micropay sales, so that's not a hard and fast number for everyone. I tried to make the best use of the discounts available to me to get the most bang for my buck. As for the after prices, I'm not sure what Fictionwise's prices are going to be like if/when they recover from this fiasco. The $5-7 figure is a guess based on what the prices are like at the Kindle store and at B&N.com. Without some kind of discount program like the Buywise club and/or the Micropay accounts, there's nothing to help lower your cost per book from what's mandated by the publishers. I am SO going to miss Micropay - that's probably the number one feature that has kept me so loyal to Fictionwise over the past 6 years.

I'll vote with my wallet like everyone else. I have already bought a couple of $12.99 books, because I wanted them and can't stand hardback books anymore.

I don't necessarily mind paying $12.99 for a book if it's only out in hardback now and I absolutely can't wait for it, but what pisses me off beyond belief is when an ebook is selling for $14.00 when it's available in paperback for $7.99. (And that's a specific example based on a handful of books from my old wishlist.) I'll go so far as to say I can't stand hard copy books of any kind anymore - hardback, trade paper, mass market, they all take up waaaay too much space. Once I went electronic, there was no going back!


*I have chew marks on the corner of my nook, from my cat.

:rofl:

After fictionwise's end of the year sale, everything seems expensive now!

Tell me about it!

staticradar
04-15-2010, 04:47 AM
I'll be paying a bit more because now I won't have Kobo's $2-4 off coupons anymore :(

Though I'm stocking up on the giftcards at target for the Sony Ebook store and asking for them as gifts since they are so cheap...$15 for $25 so I may actually end up spending less lol

GeoffC
04-15-2010, 04:52 AM
i'll wait and see .... i tend to be moving away from the more well known authors (largely 'cause they seem more likely geo-restricted).

at this rate it'll end up cheaper buying a pbook (un-restricted geo) and scanning it !!!!

lioslaith
04-18-2010, 07:29 AM
I will be continuing with my standard practice of the past few months. Buying from the smaller independent presses like Samhain. I've been trying out newer less known authors of late and buying direct from the publishers to support them more directly. I started doing this when geographic restrictions began creeping up in more and more of the mainstream authors I previously read.

I tend now to buy from the smaller presses and the only mainstream one I frequent is the Harlequin site in the US as I have no problems buying direct from them even though I live in the UK and they sell in my preferred ePub format. Not preferred out of all formats but displays on my Sony Reader better than a DRM pdf file.

Geographic Restrictions altered my buying habits and these new 'rules' will just re-enforce my new buying habits. The only ones I feel sorry for are the mainstream authors whose pocketbook will be hit by these new regulations. I can see it stopping more readers buying their ebooks and as such affect their royalties.

I know you can buy paperback/hardback instead but I think many are like me and have no physical room for these books. My space restrictions is what sent me down the ebook path last year as I simply have no room for physical books.

A lot of my wishlist books have also disappeared from both Fictionwise and BoB. So I'm not really impressed at the moment with mainstream publishers, but I think this will prove a boon for the smaller publishing houses and their authors. I won't stop buying ebooks but I will be spending my meagre pennies on other publishers, I'll miss the authors whose books I love but eventually they'll turn up on sale in Tesco's or Asda's and I'll catch them there if I really want to.