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Mike Kostousov
10-03-2006, 04:11 PM
Hi!
Does anybody know this device?
http://www.mobile-review.com/news.php?year=2006&month=October&day=3&language=ru#news10809
The information is on russian site, a small news about color e-ink device by Fujitsu. Fujitsu shows this device at CEATEC. May be there is anybody from Japan, who can visit this exhibition and take photos?

igorsk
10-03-2006, 04:19 PM
They link to akihabaranews as the source:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12521-CEATEC+-+Fujitsu+Electronic+Paper+e-book+reader.html
Check this out too:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12522-CEATEC+-+Panasonic+Word+Gear+e-book+reader.html

Slava
10-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Looks interesting :)

More info
Size: A5
Colors: 4096
Page refresh: 1-4 seconds
Memory slot: SD

Another article (this info is repeated on MacWorld, InfoWorld, and some other websites)
Fujitsu Shows Off Larger Paper-Thin Display (http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=25446)

ultim8fury
10-05-2006, 12:57 AM
Hopefully it'll take ages to come to market since like a few others I've just shelled out for the Sony.

I'm seriously impressed they got colour working though.

segatang
10-05-2006, 02:46 AM
I saw the photos in http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/en/news-12521-CEATEC+-+Fujitsu+Electronic+Paper+e-book+reader.html

The first photo shows a japanese famous manga.
The reflection of the first photo is a little obvious, but the second isn't. WHY?
I am intereted in its release date toward the market.

Egghead
10-05-2006, 09:05 AM
Glad I waited on buying the Sony. This is closer to my dream device. :D

NatCh
10-05-2006, 09:51 AM
The reflection of the first photo is a little obvious, but the second isn't. WHY?It looks to me like the reflections are a combination of the device being behind a plate-glass window, and the display finish being smooth, rather than an anti-glare finish. :shrug:

Is it just me, or does that rascal look back-lit to anyone else?

Anybody know if it has/needs a back-light?

Slava
10-05-2006, 10:46 AM
On the first picture the device seems to be behind the glass, hence the reflection.
On the picture with the scale, it just lighting, not back-lit, imho.


Since it's still A5 sized reader, I don't see any benifits, at least for me, to get it instead of Sony.

wakawakawaka
10-05-2006, 03:07 PM
AFAIK, it's still the same tech fujitsu was displaying in their flexible stuff. Cholesteric LCD, which still, is an LCD and therefore requires a backlight or to be made transflective.
Cheers!

Slava
10-05-2006, 03:31 PM
More Pics and Info (http://aving.net/usa/news/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=25525&c_code=01&sp_code=33&btb_num=1117)

lordvetinari2
10-05-2006, 03:57 PM
Screen size is very nice, but colors are not enough. At least not for reading comic-books, which is what the next generation of E-ink displays should aim to.

Well, the Sony Reader will do for a couple of years. Then, we shall see...

igorsk
10-05-2006, 04:07 PM
Manga is 99% black-and-white, so that's more than enough for Japan.

tribble
10-05-2006, 04:14 PM
You all do know the already one year old news from eink?
Color E-Ink Display (http://www.eink.com/press/releases/pr86.html)

lordvetinari2
10-05-2006, 05:47 PM
Manga is 99% black-and-white, so that's more than enough for Japan.

But no good at all for Vertigo comic-books, which makes up most of my comic reading (plus Alan Moore).

mitja_i
10-07-2006, 03:49 AM
vga 480x640? I don't believe it. The pics don't show that low resolution... I mean Sony Reader has 800x600 and 170 dpi... So this device have very low dpi? Barely readable? That's why it has only manga and no text on promo pics.

NatCh
10-07-2006, 09:45 AM
vga 480x640? I don't believe it.<old, quavery voice>Back when I was a boy... </old, quavery voice> I seem to remember my first 10" monitor having resolution something like this, I think mine was an HGA, but this corresponds to ... um, EGA or CGA ... EGA I think. (head scratch)

I assure you that we could read text on our monitors even back in those dark days of low resolution and nine-pin printers! :grin:

In fact we could also read text on the "composite" monitors that were basically television screens.

I agree that this is fairly low resolution for these days, but it probably is serviceable enough, if you don't mind being able to see the pixels. :beam:

Slava
10-07-2006, 09:59 AM
For "oldies" :)

Wikipedia Display Resolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution#Common_display_resolutions)


More pictures 40871

NatCh
10-07-2006, 10:05 AM
Yes, thank you, Slava, for supporting my elderly memory! :wink:

mitja_i
10-07-2006, 10:26 AM
I agree that this is fairly low resolution for these days, but it probably is serviceable enough, if you don't mind being able to see the pixels. :beam:
The main advantage of Sony Reader is it's DPI, which is almost as a laser printed page = normal paperback book (at least that's how the owners like to describe the reader). This is the reason it can replace p-books.

BTW I did use a hercules CGA monochrome (orange/black) monitor. Thank god that's ancient history!

But I very like the idea of flipping pages with a narrow black strip going past the screen. I heard many users of Sony reader complain about whole page going black and to text again.

NatCh
10-07-2006, 12:48 PM
But I very like the idea of flipping pages with a narrow black strip going past the screen. I heard many users of Sony reader complain about whole page going black and to text again.I got used to the black-flash thing pretty quickly, but I agree, the sort of black-band sweeping screen update would be interesting -- especially if it went top to bottom, so I could read the last line while it's updating the first. :)

Slava
10-07-2006, 02:42 PM
... especially if it went top to bottom, so I could read the last line while it's updating the first. :)

See, you did it again, that was my thought exactly :)

Alexander Turcic
10-07-2006, 04:27 PM
I think this yummy device deserves its entry in our Wiki:
http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Fujitsu_4096_Color_E-Paper

Bob Russell
10-07-2006, 05:27 PM
Very nice Alex!
We're going to have to create another matrix for LCD readers like the Panasonic pretty soon also. ;-)

Alexander Turcic
10-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Very nice Alex!
We're going to have to create another matrix for LCD readers like the Panasonic pretty soon also. ;-)
Something like "Future e-book readers matrix"... I agree ;)

donkaarlos
10-08-2006, 02:20 AM
The Wiki info was interesting! So it is not a colour e-ink display with Toppan colour filter as some of us thought. But it is a competing technology, which is more like a static LCD display:

“display composed of three cholesteric liquid crystal films (red, green, blue) attached to one another”

Compare: http://www.kentdisplays.com/

Some example products that have used this technology are: Panasonic Sigma ebook, Kolin/Argosy i-library..

segatang
10-09-2006, 04:05 AM
Upload photo is a 2003 color SCC LCD sample with 65536 colors (16-bit color)
(The 4 grey SCC LCD is now used in the kolin/argosy EBK reader or Jinkie wolf reader.)
In 2006, the size became about 6 inch with 640*480 pixel and 1 second paging time.
However, no money to support the development and product. :sleepy:

BTW, I saw 2 comparison photo of Fujitsu device and iLiad in the wiki
http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Fujitsu_4096_Color_E-Paper

What are your opinions?

tribble
10-09-2006, 04:20 AM
Well, compared to the fujitsu, the iLiad seems to have a bright white paper :)

dugbug
10-09-2006, 07:11 AM
Is that fujitsu real or a concept mockup?