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03-21-2010, 12:41 AM
Has anyone tried the Appslib Market ?
Several apps here are marked Archos approved, which I assume means they run on large screens.
03-21-2010, 11:04 AM
I tried to install the AppsLib app on the eDGe, but system wouldn't allow install on this "phone..." The eDGe is an "advanced Android device" n'est pas? With luck, a lot of the install and app access problems will be solved with the upcoming software update - hopefully.
03-21-2010, 03:05 PM
That is disappointing, however, many of those apps can be located on line and the apk downloaded. Maybe some of them will install correctly.:thanks:
03-26-2010, 07:21 PM
enTourage posted on Twitter about its own apps store:
"We’ll be announcing our own app store soon, but we’re also trying to influence Google to open its store to non-phone devices."
Anybody find a decent site with apps that fill eDGe's screen, and not think it's a phone?
03-26-2010, 07:32 PM
It seems it's all trial and error, it is the developer who decides the screen size support, and no site seems to include that info. Maybe in the future, as more large screen Android devices are released.
03-26-2010, 08:11 PM
I had posted a number of sites and apps and how they work, here: http://groups.google.com/group/entourage-edge-fan-forum/browse_thread/thread/af776a8c1caba4c6.
03-27-2010, 05:25 PM
So, I don't know as much as I'd like about the Android phones - just got around to trying to pull an APK file off my fiance's phone, to try installing on the eDGe, but can't seem to get the phone to show up as a storage device so I can explore the APK files...is there a trick???
I can't even find a way to explore the phone ON the phone - do I need to DL a specific app for that or something?
Thanks in advance.
03-27-2010, 05:55 PM
There are many ways to get the .apk file but the simplest for me was to first install Astro file manager and make a backup to the SD card. That backup will contain the .apk files for all unprotected apps. When you connect the phone to your computer it will need to be mounted, a notification will appear on the phone when it detects it has been plugged into a computer. Now look for your backup file on the SD card and you can find the .apk file you need, copy it to your computer or directly the SD card you will use on your Edge. You can also use Astro to email the backed up .apk to yourself and download it to your Edge.
03-29-2010, 03:08 PM
got as far as looking for the apk files - found some, but not for most of the apps...not sure if I'm looking in the wrong place or what (think the folder was system\apps)...?
Never could get my computer to ask me to "mount" the SD card either...got frustrated and quit...will have to try again later.
03-29-2010, 03:33 PM
It is the phone that will ask you to mount, the notification will show on the Phone as USB connected - select to copy files to/from your computer. Touch that and it will mount and show as a removable drive on the computer, auto play may open at that point and you can choose to browse or go to my Computer and locate the removable drive. You don't want to look in system files, you want to create a backup using Astro and after it is mounted you will find the backup file on the SD card, which you mounted. When you are done use safely remove on the computer first and then dismount from the phones pull down windowshade notifications.
03-30-2010, 09:41 AM
ahhhh...ok, that makes sense now...I'll have to try that later, thanks!
03-31-2010, 11:05 PM
This site is very helpful:
Apps that work full screen:
NewsRob - Google Reader
Apps that work small window:
PaperDroid - RSS Reader
I will edit this as I test other apps.
04-04-2010, 11:15 PM
This is also posted in the entourage forums.
This is my list:
Websharing 1.2.2 - login via a nice web interface to the device - music, videos, pictures, data
Executive Assistance+ 1.4.2 - This assembles gmail, gcal, twitter, facebook and google reader in one place - you set the uname/pwords for all accounts - also has a nice widget - this is one of the best apps I've found so far - looks amazing and integrates all your information feeds. An effective solutions for checking gcal events without going to the browser. I really like this.
aCurrency 2.01 - view exchange rates via nice widgets - indispensable for me.
Meebo - Full screen IM application supporting facebook chat as well as all others - DL directly from the meebo site - recommended.
Lastpass - this is secure password application - automatically fills passwords in the browser - the great thing about this is that you can sync with lastpass for just about any device - this is Excellent and looks great full screen.
TasKiller 2.7.0 - A task killer - works widget and full screen
Smart Keyboard Pro 1.17 - this will completely replace the onscreen keyboard for the better - nice feature and actually works properly.
Seesmic - A beautiful twitter client - potentially much nicer then Twidroid
RepliGo Reader 2.1.1 - You might ask me - Why would I want a pdf app that doesn't open on the eInk side - I say to you color and comics! This PDF reader is the business.
PowerTime Widget 1.6.3 - Tells you how much battery you have left based on the past battery performance - very handy
Opera Mini 5.0b - Seems to work - for Opera fans
Weather Widgets v4.1 - A nice selection of weather widgets - some look better then others but all very nice.
MobileWrite 1.1 - On screen handwriting recognition - it's slow but might work with some tweaking and practice.
Genie News and Weather Widget + App - This is a great application for google news and weather - even has image previews in the news list - recommended.
Personal Assistant Premium 1.4 - Pageonce.com is able to assemble all your data (financial, travel, utilities, etc.) from different websites and present it to you on the eDGe
Droidbox Beta 2.0.10 - Dropbox interface on you eDGe - interface looks great in full screen and works a treat
Better Terminal Emulator Pro 3.04 - Want to poke around in the eDGe - this terminal emulator lets you do it - can also use the ssh client after installing the custom shell
BBC - This lets you read BBC news feeds in full screen and have the latest headlines in widget form
aEdict 1.0 - Great Japanese dictionary and kanji recognition program - I am thrilled that this works full screen.
I've confirmed what other have - things lke Aldiko, Astrid, Real Scientific Calc all work.
I've tried to install several Japanese input methods but the keyboards do not show up on the eDGe. :-(
PM me if you would like more information.
04-05-2010, 12:27 AM
Miklos, thanks a lot for the info -very very helpful! Any chance you could point us to where you found the APK files for these - I can't seem to locate most of them via google.
04-05-2010, 01:12 PM
Draw and Share is a pretty neat app. It does show the inaccuracies of using the LCD as a drawing tablet though.
04-07-2010, 09:41 PM
Will the eReader app from eReader.com work? You can download the apk from the ereader.com website.
04-07-2010, 09:44 PM
The eReader application loads in a small screen (compatibility mode). Too bad.
04-08-2010, 03:45 PM
Is it fully functional, though? I could live with it being small.
04-11-2010, 01:09 PM
Yes, I used it briefly and it worked fine. It's easier for me to strip the DRM and convert the ebook to ePUb and view it on the eInk side.
04-16-2010, 10:54 PM
I just bought an edge. Would someone please post instructions, or a link to instructions, that explain how to manually install an apk file? My system has been updated to the latest firmware release, but I seem to have no file management tools at all.
All I really need is a terminal and /bin/bash. But a file manager and a good chess game would make me very happy. :)
04-17-2010, 12:40 AM
I would start by going to slideme.org and downloading their installer for apps found on their site. (Some are free, and some are paid.) It's not a manual installation (you'll just run their app), but it's *like* having access to a very small marketplace. Maybe you'll find everything you need there.
I think the EE forum itself has more technical threads, so you might want to check there too.
04-17-2010, 05:46 AM
All I really need is a terminal and /bin/bash. But a file manager and a good chess game would make me very happy. :)
maynard, Better Terminal Emulator (http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/Better-Terminal-Emulator-Magic-Download-84558.html) is reported to work on the eDGe in full screen. Download the APK file from that link, get it onto your eDGe somehow (side-loading with the SD card sounds like what I'd be doing), and when you see the .apk on your eDGe, press and hold your finger/stylus on it. It'll give an installation option. Don't expect Linux-like low-level access to the system with it. Android seals off a lot of the underlying system.
The only chess app I could find was ChessWalk 1.1, which works but only in a small window. You can get it at http://SlideMe.org
Obviously I'm just going by what I've read since my eDGe is still a week away. Good luck!
04-17-2010, 09:19 AM
Telestar: That terminal program definitely works. Gives me a root shell, that's useful. Now I need an ssh client. Gotta be around somewhere.
One funny thing: the keyboard has no "CTL" key.
04-20-2010, 01:51 AM
I've managed to set up my Android SDK emulator as a G1 Dev phone and gain full access to the Android Market on my PC. I can browse the apps, install, then adb pull the APK for transfer to the eDGe.
Unfortunately not a solution for the average user ... and I'll leave it at this so I don't violate forum rules.
04-25-2010, 08:49 AM
Is there a decent ebook reader with PDF support (or a PDF viewer) for the Android LCD screen? Is it possible to use that at the same time as running the music player? What I want is to view a language textbook in color, play the language CDs at the same time, while taking notes and doing character writing practice on the eink screen.
IOW: I'd like to collapse my language textbook, workbook, audio supplement, and writing practice into a single device. Suggestions?
04-25-2010, 09:49 AM
The eDGe comes with Docs to Go which has a decent PDF viewer for the LCD side. You can definitely have the music player running in the back ground.
One thing you can also do is open the book on the eInk side, double-click the Camera tool bar button to put a colour snapshop of the page on the LCD side, then toggle the Journal to write your notes. All this with the music player playing in the background.
04-25-2010, 01:08 PM
I'll try Docs to Go. What about having a music player control in the foreground while I have Docs to Go running? I'd like to be able to stop and start the audio supplement as I'm working.
04-25-2010, 04:32 PM
OK. So I scanned in a chapter of my Chinese textbook in color into Acrobat Pro and made an image based PDF using "high" optimization. I then transferred that pdf file to the library so I can read it on the eink screen, as well as a copy to internal storage so "Docs to Go" can load the file as well. This approach requires two copies of the same file, unfortunately. I also extracted an mp3 of the audio supplement for that chapter and installed it on the Edge.
Here are my thoughts:
The image quality on LCD is just fine. I've had to crop out the margins to get a full page to fit on the screen, but it still works. This textbook uses color coding in the text to note grammar elements, so color support really helps here. Of course, loading that pdf on the eink side works just fine too.
If I flip the screen so that eink is on the right and the LCD is on the left, I can then load the PDF in color to on the left screen while running the "Notes" program on the eink screen. In Notes, I've found that the *smallest* brush possible to handwrite with is the largest circle. The middle circle and small circle make are too small due to inaccuracy with the stylus. This means that I have to write extra large characters in order to come close to what they should look like. However, it _does_ work.
Finally: WRT the audio player... the control panel requires a full and active screen. If I switch to Docs to Go, the browser, or any other application, the audio player panel disappears. That's too bad. An iPod Touch (or iPhone) - for example - places the start/stop control in the top menu where it can be reached while browsing.
The biggest problem with this approach though is the time taken to scan and arrange my textbook. But I'd have that problem regardless of which ereader device I choose.
04-25-2010, 06:29 PM
Interesting bug: If I flip the eink and LCD panels such that LCD is on the left and eink is on the right and then close the clamshell case, when I next open the case the LCD panel stays oriented as if it's on the left (as I set it) but the eink screen reorients itself such that on the right side it shows text upside down (as if it were the left panel too).
Definitely a bug.
04-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Good catch on that screen orientation bug, maynard. As to the start/stop audio thing, it's a shame there's no easier way to do it.
A little off topic for apps, but I've found that XVID 704x400 videos, keeping that original size, work beautifully on the eDGe after conversion to "_x264.mp4" in "Customized MP4 Movie" mode by the free Any Video Converter program. Use two passes -- the extra time is really worth it. (Edit to add: fullscreen landscape view is a perfect fit.)
04-25-2010, 10:00 PM
Interesting bug: ...when I next open the case the LCD panel stays oriented as if it's on the left (as I set it) but the eink screen reorients itself such that on the right side it shows text upside down (as if it were the left panel too). Definitely a bug.
I have mine reoriented as well, and the eInk side stays correct.
04-26-2010, 12:11 AM
It's happened to me several times. Did you perform the system update this weekend?
04-26-2010, 12:41 AM
I haven't been able to duplicate this bug after trying various things like doing it with PDF, ePub, and Journal; rebooting with the orientation that way (e-ink on the right) then testing. Closing the LCD in landscape ...
Which means nothing if it's an occasional event. I normally keep the default orientation with the LCD on the right so chances are I wouldn't see it if it's not happening frequently.
04-26-2010, 09:50 AM