Just ran across this article this morning. Thought it might be of interest to John Grisham fans.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2010-03-16-grisham-e-books_N.htm?csp=DailyBriefing

Looks like Amazon already has a bunch up for $8 each.

Finally!!! :D Uh Oh...Hell must have frozen over.

They appear to only be available in the USA at present.

Can J.K. Rowling be far behind? And Ray Bradbury?
(And other notable digital hold-outs?)

With all of the Grisham releases and if this happens...

Can J.K. Rowling be far behind? And Ray Bradbury?
(And other notable digital hold-outs?)

then this should jump up nicely...

...currently estimated at around 3% to 5% of total sales

I found 23 eBook on Kobo and they have a $1.50 off coupon (on the site's home page) good till the 17th on one book.

Fictionwise has them on 100% micropay rebate with credit card purchase now. Geo restricted to Canada and the USA though.

Finally!!! :D Uh Oh...Hell must have frozen over.

Yep....

Encouraging.

Had he said something about not liking ebooks -- ala Rowling?

Lee

Fictionwise has them on 100% micropay rebate with credit card purchase now. Geo restricted to Canada and the USA though.

Amazon has them for $7.99
Fictionwise has them for $8.05 a 15% off plus a 100% rebate
B&N/Sony/BoB have them for $9.99

Interesting everyone has the book price starting at $15 FW has theirs at $18.

=X=

Had he said something about not liking ebooks -- ala Rowling?

Lee

Yep, that's what I remember.

http://blogs.gartner.com/allen_weiner/2009/11/03/john-grisham-on-ebooks/

Had he said something about not liking ebooks -- ala Rowling?

Lee

Not exactly. He said he thought $9.95 for a new ebook was too low a price.

JK Rowling opposes ebooks in principle, not on price.

Considering all these authors' books have been on the darknet for years, all they've accomplished by not e-publishing them sooner is to lose out on legitimate sales. I really don't understand their hesitation.

Not exactly. He said he thought $9.95 for a new ebook was too low a price.

Yes, cause the guy doesn't make enough money from his books.

BOb

Yup, about time.
I'll probably buy a couple of these, he's not one of my favorite writers but a couple of his books are near classics.

Amazon has them for $7.99
Fictionwise has them for $8.05 a 15% off plus a 100% rebate
B&N/Sony/BoB have them for $9.99

Interesting everyone has the book price starting at $15 FW has theirs at $18.

=X=

Do you have a Fictionwise 15% off coupon that's good right now? If so, could you share? :)

-Marcy

Do you have a Fictionwise 15% off coupon that's good right now? If so, could you share? :)

-Marcy

Fictionwise already has them marked at 15% off. But the prices are still $10.84 to $13.65. So, yes, I wonder if =X= has an additional 15% coupon or if he/she misread and didn't realize the price already was 15% off.

Though it would take more than 15% to get them down to the $8.05 he quoted.

Hi Marcy,
No there is no coupon needed, the discount is already included in the price and is listed right next to the 100% rebate icon. But if I had a coupon I would be happy to share

Yes i'm aware that the price is already marked 15% off. What I was also includeind was the 100% rebate which is prettyMich 50% off.

Though are math is not the same

18.95* 15% = $16 .11
$16.11*50%=8.06

Yes i'm aware that the price is already marked 15% off. What I was also includeind was the 100% rebate which is prettyMich 50% off.

Though are math is not the same

18.95* 15% = $16 .11
$16.11*50%=8.06

That makes no sense.

The list price is $18.95 and with 15% off that, regular price is $16.11. Club price is $16.11 with 15% off making it $13.69 for the club price.

Yes i'm aware that the price is already marked 15% off. What I was also includeind was the 100% rebate which is prettyMich 50% off.

Though are math is not the same

18.95* 15% = $16 .11
$16.11*50%=8.06

Hmmm. Not sure how 100% micropay rebate = 50% off of 16.11.

But whatever. I love the 100% micropay rebates. Of course the problem is, I now have so many books to read, that pretty much the only time I buy more is when there is a 100% rebate - which means I'm never actually spending my micropay dollars. :smack:

Can anyone recommend a couple of his books. I've only read The Firm and The Last Juror so far.

In my view, his first three were the only original ones worth reading: The Firm, The Pelican Brief (much better than the movie), and A Time to Kill.

That makes no sense.
The list price is $18.95 and with 15% off that, regular price is $16.11. Club price is $16.11 with 15% off making it $13.69 for the club price.
Yeah I know, it's just fictionwise playing with numbers to makebut feel like the customer is getting a deal. There trying to make it look like they are giving 15% to all customers and 30% to Buywise customers.

If you look at the other bookstores they have the list price around $16, and then apply their discounts from that price Fictionwise is then only store that has the list price at $19

In my view, his first three were the only original ones worth reading: The Firm, The Pelican Brief (much better than the movie), and A Time to Kill.

Thanks. May give those a go.

Yes, cause the guy doesn't make enough money from his books.

BOb

To be fair to Grisham, he was echoing the publishers' line about pricing, and was talking about how the publishers wouldn't be able to make money if 50% of the readers in 5 years switched to ebooks, and the ebooks were priced at $10 when initially released vs. $28 in hardcover. He said that that sort of pricing would be a problem for less established authors.

Hmmm. Not sure how 100% micropay rebate = 50% off of 16.11.

But whatever. I love the 100% micropay rebates. Of course the problem is, I now have so many books to read, that pretty much the only time I buy more is when there is a 100% rebate - which means I'm never actually spending my micropay dollars. :smack:

The micropay rebate is a great marketing it tricks the mind into thinking one is getting the true discount. I too was fooled at first until I did the math--the math can be tricky.

Essentially a 100% rebate is buy 2 for 1. Which is 50%
You buy one book for 16.11 and you can buy one at equal price or less.
Another way to do the math is as follow:
Two books cost $32.22 and you paid only $16.11

$32.22/$16.11 = 50%

If you where allowed to use micropay rebates to buy books AND get the rebate then the discount would be 100% but they don't so essentially it becomes a 2 for 1 sale. There are exceptions, on sales and any rebate 20% (I don't recall the actual cap) or less. So you can get more than 50% off. The math gets more complicated to find the actual discount so I'll save from showing it here.


Of course the problem is, I now have so many books to read, that pretty much the only time I buy more is when there is a 100% rebate - which means I'm never actually spending my micropay dollars. :smack:
Well loop at the upshot. There are times maybe once or twice a year where FW does have a sale where you can use your micropay rebates to buy books and get those rebates back. This will give you a deep discount since you already started with a 50% discount.

Hopes this helps
=X=

Not exactly. He said he thought $9.95 for a new ebook was too low a price.

JK Rowling opposes ebooks in principle, not on price.

Too bad all authors aren't like Stephen King..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/feb/10/stephen-king-kindle-ur

Whenever I heard Stephen King's name I'm reminded of Garth Merenghi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Marenghi) and his classic show Garth Mereghi's Dark Place which mocks the spiritual/horror/hospital dramas of the 80's.

(though I have no idea if Stephen King is remotely like him, that's just the link I've made in my head)

Too bad all authors aren't like Stephen King..

You mean everyone else should delay ebook release as was done with Under the Dome? :p

You mean everyone else should delay ebook release as was done with Under the Dome? :p

Haha. I didn't know that. I just know I read an article in Entertainment Weekly by him a few years ago where he said he liked the Kindle, and that was the first I ever heard of an ebook reader. :)

You mean everyone else should delay ebook release as was done with Under the Dome? :p

Apparently he only did that to give retailers a chance to make some coin on the hardcover. Only to have the big box stores discount the hard cover so deeply they ended up being a loss leader and the smaller guys really got screwed.

I remember reading an article after this where King said he sure didn't see that coming. Don't remember if it mentioned whether there would be delayed releases going forward.

Either way, I have so much to read, I don't mind if I have to wait a little longer for the ebook version - as long as I can get an ebook version.

The micropay rebate is a great marketing it tricks the mind into thinking one is getting the true discount. I too was fooled at first until I did the math--the math can be tricky.

Essentially a 100% rebate is buy 2 for 1. Which is 50%
You buy one book for 16.11 and you can buy one at equal price or less.
Another way to do the math is as follow:
Two books cost $32.22 and you paid only $16.11

$32.22/$16.11 = 50%

=X=

I guess that is one way to look at it. Though you really aren't getting the first book at 50% off, at least that is what my credit card statement tells me. :)

Bottom line is 100% rebate makes me feel all tingly and good inside. :2thumbsup

Yeah I know, it's just fictionwise playing with numbers to makebut feel like the customer is getting a deal. There trying to make it look like they are giving 15% to all customers and 30% to Buywise customers.

If you look at the other bookstores they have the list price around $16, and then apply their discounts from that price Fictionwise is then only store that has the list price at $19

At least it's a 100% rebate so you can then turn around and buy something else at a more reasonable price. So it's not too bad. But if it wasn't for the 100% rebate, it would be that bad.

Ok, if I was to buy just two Grisham eBooks, which two should I get?

Ok, if I was to buy just two Grisham eBooks, which two should I get?

Two of the following:

The Firm
A Time To Kill
The Pelican Brief...

BOb

The Pelican Brief and The Firm were the first two I read and I was addicted after that.

I guess that is one way to look at it. Though you really aren't getting the first book at 50% off, at least that is what my credit card statement tells me. :)

Bottom line is 100% rebate makes me feel all tingly and good inside. :2thumbsup
Right that is why I called it a 2-for-1 because you have to pay the full price of the first book to get the second book free. You will notice there is no additional charges on your CC for the second book :).

And your right it doesn't feel like it's a 50% discount especially if your interested in only one book. What I started doing is putting books I really want in my wish list. Then buy both books back to back to make it feel like I'm getting my rebates.

But I'm total with you here, I'd rather get 50% right of the top than have to use micropay rebates to redeem a 2nd book.

=X=

Can anyone recommend a couple of his books. I've only read The Firm and The Last Juror so far.
I liked The Brethren very much. It made me laugh.

Right that is why I called it a 2-for-1 because you have to pay the full price of the first book to get the second book free. You will notice there is no additional charges on your CC for the second book :).

And your right it doesn't feel like it's a 50% discount especially if your interested in only one book. What I started doing is putting books I really want in my wish list. Then buy both books back to back to make it feel like I'm getting my rebates.

But I'm total with you here, I'd rather get 50% right of the top than have to use micropay rebates to redeem a 2nd book.

=X=

Right now I have almost $100 in micropay dollars. I just keep buying books with the 100% rebate. Gotta start spending some of those.

The nice thing is all the books I bought to get the micropay dollars are obviously paid for and the cost of them has been 'forgotten' so to speak - so now at some future point when I actually do spend the micropay dollars, it will feel like I am getting a bunch of stuff for free.

Either way, I have so much to read, I don't mind if I have to wait a little longer for the ebook version - as long as I can get an ebook version.


That's where I'm at. hardback -> paperback -> ebook

It's not ideal (Baen is ideal) but I can live with it.

Right now I have almost $100 in micropay dollars. I just keep buying books with the 100% rebate. Gotta start spending some of those.

Try using your micropay to buy the 100% micropay rebate books. It's only supposed to work with a credit card but recently it has been going through no problem.

I should be able to purchase John Grisham books in Australia from Fictionwise?
Forgive my confusion :)

Try using your micropay to buy the 100% micropay rebate books. It's only supposed to work with a credit card but recently it has been going through no problem.

It will go through if you use your micropay dollars, but you don't get the 100% rebate. Just tried. Unless you had stumbled upon some 'bug' they've fixed over the last couple of days.

They appear to only be available in the USA at present.

As most books I try to get.... :eek:

They appear to only be available in the USA at present.

Canada too.

I'll wait until his ebooks hit the local library.

Okay, I'm now beginning to wonder why I bother differentiating between FW and eReader as at neither site was I able to buy TC in (Secure) Mobipocket format. Well, there *was* the fact that I'd have paid $18.99 through eReader and I 'only' got socked for $16.11 through FW. Now the stupidity of paying that much for an ebook version when I could have purchased it for $6.99 at the bookstore in paperback or even paid just $3.50 for a 'used' mmpb at one of our local used book stores.

Sure, for the time being (and there's no set date when all this 'goodness' will end) I 'get' a 100% micropay rebate - but that's just another way of saying that somewhere down the line I get a discount on some other book - as I *must* cough up my hard-earned money to them for a future 'promise'. I don't *expect* FW to fail between now and Monday, but what if it does? All my micropay credits disappear. That means I'll have paid 'better than paperback' for a previously released title.

Now John Sargent of MacMillan would like me, and you, to believe that this more-than-doubling of the ebook prices over paper books to actually 'cost' the publishers more and return less of a 'profit' but only a congenital idiot would believe such crap. I am definitely NOT a congenital idiot - thus I fully smell the ripe, rotting aroma arising from the new pricing policies that allow Grisham's publisher to vastly overcharge the readers on an older title. Can you?

Derek

As an aside, around Christmas I bought about 35 books from Fictionwise and used a number of their 100% after rebate deals. Bought the Twilight Series for my wife and Tolkien's books for 100% off. Also bought the Chronicles of Narnia, 9 Robin Hobb books and others. All of the 100% deals were on my credit card, along with a Buywise membership, for a total of $115. Since they were running a massive sale at the time (something like 35% Micropay on all titles) + my 15% Buywise discount, I was able to buy all of the titles I wanted and still have about $60 left in Micropay. 35 books for $115 is a good deal, but 35 for $55? Awesome. And I even missed their Buywise deal by a day (100% of Buywise back as Micropay). That would have been another $30 back!

As long as they carry books I like, I'm comfortable having in-store credit. I bought my first ebook reader from FW over 5 years ago and they still seem like they are going strong.

I'll wait until his ebooks hit the local library.

My local library just got ALL of Grisham's eBooks in ePub. Very nice. Now I can start A Time to Kill.

Here's a little correspondence I received:

All Random House international books will be available in Australia provided
that we have global rights.

In the case of John Grisham, the books he makes available to us as ebooks
will be available here.

There may be some time lag because of the production issues involved in
converting to ebook format.

For other books, Random House has a policy to make as many books available in
ebook form as quickly as possible in line with our legal obligations.

This means that backlist titles for which we do not hold digital rights must
be negotiated with authors and their agents. We are certainly doing our best
to facilitate availability.

All best wishes,

Mel Cox
Head of Licensing / Digital Manager
RANDOM HOUSE AUSTRALIA