View Full Version : to iRex: how to improve the ui


vvoi666
07-21-2006, 06:34 AM
since some of us have had their iliad for a few days now, post your suggestions for an improved ui here (i hope they're still working on that and that it's not too late)

here is what came to my mind after using the iliad for a day (more to follow)

the book list:
- the listing of six titles per page is not enough. decrease the height of the displayed info box and bump it up to at least eight or ten books per page
- display of the titles is less than optimal. show the whole filename/title, not just the first thirteen characters. use the full width for the title and move further book infos to the next line
- i hope there will be some kind of database added to the 'bookshelf' so that i can add author and other info. showing the filename is not enough.
- there should be an option to group the books by author so that i don't have to click through ten pages (which is a pain in the a.. on the iliad) to get to the book i want
- the possibility to mark books read/unread would be appreciated
- if i insert a memory card/usb stick and there is a 'books' folder on it, the books from this folder should automatically be included in the book listing (when i click the 'books' button)
- the icon in front of the book listings is not necessary (in my opinion). i know that it's a book. so why display an icon for it. use the space to display more infos

edit:
reg. grouping by author:
maybe they can even add categories and genres, so that i can jump into the fiction/nonfiction, studies/personal or horror/science fiction section of my bookshelf.
thinking of it, they should have tree like this ->
category (for study/job ...) > genre (like horror/exams ...) > author > book listings
and they should add a favourites entry and maybe one for the last five books read (all accessible from the first page of the bookshelf with the category listings)

edit2:
corrected several spelling errors

vvoi666
07-21-2006, 07:04 AM
my perfect 'books' starting page would look like this (sorry for bad graphics).
all the entries would be linked to the matching file/category/whatever

ElaHuguet
07-21-2006, 07:41 AM
Hear, hear, I like your starting page! Add 1 vote to that. :)

Riocaz
07-21-2006, 07:44 AM
Yup, make that 3

tribble
07-21-2006, 08:15 AM
I agree mostly, but i would like to see icons, to reflect the different readers. But they can be WAY smaller.

masc
07-22-2006, 07:06 PM
I think an other improve for the PDF Reader GUI would be to add a minmize button for the relatively high navigation bar on the bottom. This would then increase the viewable size for the PDF.

ElaHuguet
07-23-2006, 03:56 AM
I think the menu should pop down completely (like you can do with the taskbar in Windows), and should only show up if you take the stylus out, since you can't use it anyway without it.

High 5
07-23-2006, 04:25 AM
I must confess that I find the news/books/docs/notes buttons quite convenient. Thumbs up there.
Vvoi's starting page would be awesome!
It would add greatly to the userfriendlyness of the Iliads interface.

deadite66
07-23-2006, 05:13 AM
displaying more of a book name would be a start, always hated that on the franklin ebookman where i had a series of books a couldn't see the book number so ended up having to open each book for clues to the sequence.

DHer
07-23-2006, 07:34 AM
yes, these 10 characters don't really cut it. What about changeable font sizes?

"last read" would be really great. I really like your interface.

until iRex delivers you might just use folders to get a reasonable structure.

tribble
07-23-2006, 08:13 AM
You should have multiple views of your files.
Last read would be really useful.
They should have a clock in the iconbar.
They should rearrange the main menu. Put settings and reference manuals last. (you usually need them only once each).

tribble
07-23-2006, 09:14 AM
This is more like what i want to see (just a quick sketch).
Especially, the status indicators (current page/totalpage) and if notes are taken. (maybe a bookmark indicator aswell, and a button to jump to the bookmarkpage directly)
A search button and a way to select the sort order.

deadite66
07-23-2006, 09:18 AM
looks good tribble

R2D2
07-23-2006, 09:33 AM
I heard that the 2.5 update will show us longer filenames...

tribble
07-23-2006, 09:38 AM
Who needs OS 2.5? I just progged a new fileviewer :) See it at work :D

deadite66
07-23-2006, 09:40 AM
:D hehe

masc
07-23-2006, 09:45 AM
Looks realy good. I hope iRex takes some ideas from this forum.

R2D2
07-23-2006, 10:05 AM
Who needs OS 2.5? I just progged a new fileviewer :) See it at work :D

And I justed installed WinXP for Arm to be able to run my favorite web-browser: Opera

Seeing is believing, isn't it? :D

vvoi666
07-23-2006, 10:14 AM
this 'two view' booklist is great tribble.
a combination of my 'books' starting page and your 'book list' would be near perfect. i especially like the extra infos (current page, annotation icon).

edit: corrected spelling error

tribble
07-23-2006, 10:35 AM
this 'two view' booklist is great tribble.
a combination of my 'books' starting page and your 'book list' would be near perfect. i especially like the extra infos (current page, annotation icon).

Yap, a combination of several file views would be great. Even better if one would have the ability to adjust it to your own needs to some extend.

arivero
07-23-2006, 05:41 PM
And I justed installed WinXP for Arm to be able to run my favorite web-browser: Opera

Seeing is believing, isn't it? :D

I have a NCR 3125. Wacon tablet, display b/w 600x400, processor i386DX. It came with a newly designed user interface, "penpoint". basically all the applications were "sheets" of e-paper and you always move from a window to another using "tabs". In the practical no very different of the modern system when all the windows are full screen, but it had a very powerful object embedding method.

Regretly nobody developed applications for this OS because Microsoft released... "Windows 3.1 for Pen".

iliadslave
06-25-2008, 04:00 PM
This is more like what i want to see (just a quick sketch).
Especially, the status indicators (current page/totalpage) and if notes are taken. (maybe a bookmark indicator aswell, and a button to jump to the bookmarkpage directly)
A search button and a way to select the sort order.

Tribble,

How can I make my content lister show more like in your post?

I've been looking around and I'm not sure whether your solution exists. Please, give me a hint. Thanks.

daudi
06-26-2008, 06:03 AM
Unfortunately that was just a very good mock-up.

Tribble's design of the contentlister contravenes the 11th commandment: "Thou shalt not have more than 6 items in the contentlister"

When Moses originally received the iliad tablet on the mountain it had all 11 commandments, but on his way down he tripped and dropped it. This caused damage to the screen and lineouts that obliterated the 11th commandment. Worse still he didn't get the iliad from the original supplier but instead he haggled for it on heavenBay, and it was no longer under warranty. When he saw the price of getting someone to look at it, let alone replace the screen, he decided that the first 10 commandments were pretty useful and that the 11th was a bit odd anyway so he didn't tell anyone about it. And thus the 11th commandment was lost and few people know that there can only ever be 6 items in the contentlister.

axel77
06-26-2008, 07:07 AM
Okay also participating in this diggup.

Nowadays my primary use of the iLiad is as notetaker. I'm just too sluggish to work well with paper. My paper scribblings get crumbled, mixed and finally lost or completly out-of-context stored in a hugh staple. So I see the iLiad as a chance to organize my scribblings.

However the "Notes" View has IMHO some real drawbacks.
* First I usually use "Lines" as background, now the more and more notes I get which name is before "L", the "Lines.png" note generater to make a new note moves further and further back into content listing. This is somehow redicolous, new notes should always be creatable from first page.

* I have been offered no UI-way to organize my notes into folders, its just one hugh list :-( I know I could use ssh login to get a shell and mkdir's and mv's to create folders, but this is too much for a sluggish. I want to be able to make this with my stylus.

Gogolo
06-27-2008, 03:32 AM
@daudi: I like your humor very much :rofl:

But when I think about it.... maybe you have a point.
Gogolo

nekokami
07-01-2008, 10:29 PM
* First I usually use "Lines" as background, now the more and more notes I get which name is before "L", the "Lines.png" note generater to make a new note moves further and further back into content listing. This is somehow redicolous, new notes should always be creatable from first page.

* I have been offered no UI-way to organize my notes into folders, its just one hugh list :-( I know I could use ssh login to get a shell and mkdir's and mv's to create folders, but this is too much for a sluggish. I want to be able to make this with my stylus.
First, you can change the names of the template files. Put something like "!" at the beginning of the names of each of the templates. That will force them to the top of the list. It's not an ideal solution, but it will work.

Second, there are a couple of file manager applications that have been ported to the iLiad. I recommend that you install one of these. emelFM2 (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10426) is pretty good.