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zetareticuli
01-13-2010, 07:28 PM
Guys, wasn't the Entourage EDGe supposed to ship in Feb? I just went to their website and they're saying March now...

paulckennedy
01-14-2010, 10:05 AM
Guys, wasn't the Entourage EDGe supposed to ship in Feb? I just went to their website and they're saying March now...

Just got an email from Tom Conklin @ Entourage.

NEW orders will ship in February. They ran out of the February inventory for existing Pre-Orders.

So... If you got your order in before yesterday, then you, like me, will still get it in February. :)

zetareticuli
01-14-2010, 07:48 PM
Good to know. Thanks. I usually don't like to buy first-generation products but in this case I made an exception with the EDGe. You can't beat the features for the price considering dedicated ebook reader devices such as the Kindle DX sell for around that price and are considerably inferior in their capabilities.

paulckennedy
01-14-2010, 08:21 PM
I sold my 2 Kindles to be able to afford it. I am hoping for a Kindle for Android app so that I can still use my Amazon purchases outside of my laptop.

zetareticuli
01-14-2010, 08:29 PM
I am sure there will be. Android is expected to take off so fast that according to software forecasters there will be thousands of applications for Android devices by the end of the year.

dls81
01-31-2010, 08:07 AM
Where do you get android apps from? Is there a webstore or something?

paulckennedy
01-31-2010, 09:53 AM
Right now, you have to search for Android Apps through something like Google and find the apk file to install. A lot like getting apps for Windows. The Android Market is closely tied to the Cell Phone payment system which leaves out devices like the Edge for now. I found one http://appslib.com/developers/index.html which looks like it might work with the Edge and other Android tablets.

zetareticuli
01-31-2010, 10:27 AM
That leaves us to start writing stuff for the Edge...

paulckennedy
01-31-2010, 10:43 AM
I used to be a science teacher. I want to be able to use the USB ports and BlueTooth to connect to sensors. I want to be able to conduct science experiments where I use the Edge to capture information such as temperature, speed, etc. While the experiment is going on I want the Textbook I am using on the E-Ink side for reference. I also want to be working with the DocsToGo side on the LCD side for the lab paper, spreadsheets, etc. I know I can do this with a netbook but this looks like it would be more intuitive for the student.

I see writing simulations using Flash. I see using forums for group discussions. I see using Evernote in coordination with the Library feature.

zetareticuli
01-31-2010, 10:54 AM
Paul, even though I was never a science teacher, I am a scientist at heart. I would also like to do all that stuff.

paulckennedy
01-31-2010, 11:12 AM
It would be cool. What are you wanting to do with it?

zetareticuli
01-31-2010, 02:24 PM
Paul, I am a systems engineer and software developer. I specialize in device drivers and interfaces. I am also an amateur astronomer with an interest in astrophotography. I plan to write drivers and interfaces for the Edge that would allow it to control my astronomy gear. There is also a planetarium software that I will attempt to port so that it would run on the Edge.

Before that can happen, though, we need to get the device. Has anyone obtained a definite answer as to when the Edge will start shipping?

paulckennedy
01-31-2010, 03:15 PM
I am a software developer. I have my Bachelor's in Physics with a Master's in Natural Science.

I am definitely interested in the device driver and interface work you have planned for the Edge.

No idea as to when from here. Boo. :(

zetareticuli
01-31-2010, 08:14 PM
Paul,

I love, love, love Physics. In fact, when I am not reading stuff on software, Information Technology, etc, I am reading Physics books. I read books from general layman's to graduate level books on Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

We will definitely collaborate on stuff for the eDGe. All we need is for it to get to us already...

paulckennedy
01-31-2010, 08:43 PM
:rofl::rofl:I agree! Nuf said! hehe :) :rofl::rofl::rofl:

KenK
02-01-2010, 04:25 AM
I want to be able to use the USB ports and BlueTooth to connect to sensors. I want to be able to conduct science experiments where I use the Edge to capture information such as temperature, speed, etc. While the experiment is going on I want the Textbook I am using on the E-Ink side for reference.I also want to be working with the DocsToGo side on the LCD side for the lab paper, spreadsheets, etc.

Why would you want to do this all on a single tablet device? It seems it would be much easier to dedicate one cheap netbook for data acquisition, and the tablet for references. It's often better to have dedicated specialized devices than one all-in-one device. (For example, I'm about to get back to work here in my home office and I'll be using 3 computers; writing a paper on one while reading the handwritten memos I made on my previous version of the paper on my tablet PC. The 3rd computer is mainly for playing music.

paulckennedy
02-01-2010, 10:52 AM
Why would you want to do this all on a single tablet device? It seems it would be much easier to dedicate one cheap netbook for data acquisition, and the tablet for references. It's often better to have dedicated specialized devices than one all-in-one device. (For example, I'm about to get back to work here in my home office and I'll be using 3 computers; writing a paper on one while reading the handwritten memos I made on my previous version of the paper on my tablet PC. The 3rd computer is mainly for playing music.

Because as a student ( I used to be one 20 years ago...) I only have so much money. I also only want to carry around a few things, such as my cell phone, my mp3 player, my books, and working materials. The vision as I see it is to give the student something that he will easily adopt into his bag. Even though seperate devices might do a better job, it is often not that ergonomic when it comes to lugging it around campus.

In my work scenario, I minimize the number of things that I take to meetings. Now I agree with you that for my own private Science room, I definately want as much power in devices as possible. Now that goes the other way when I have to lug it out as if I want to automate a portable telescope in the field.

It all depends on what you plan to do. As a teacher, I could see having 20 Edges which I fold up into a lab cart. When I do a lab, it has the reference material on it. It has the ports available for any data acquisition devices that I need to use for the lab. It has wifi access to all of the supplemental material the teacher wants to make available say via a lab server. It has an operating system with a simple but robust programming paradigm available for buying software or making programming which round out the tools.

As a teacher, I wouldn't need to use it but I could minimize when I want to. I can take the Edge into my dedicated lab and just use it for the dedicate reference materials with other computers for the heavy lifting, but I am not only limited to that task.

zetareticuli
02-01-2010, 11:33 AM
I agree with Paul. Even though dedicated devices are almost always better (think digital camera and camcorder). Even though digital camera also records video and camcorder also takes pictures, each device is best at its own task it was specifically designed for. I own a $5,000 laptop that I use for heavy programming. This laptop is heavy and difficult to carry around. If I can offload some tasks to the eDGe, for example, and only carry the eDGe, that would be great. Of course, the eDGe would not compete performance wise but as long as it is functional and usable that's what I would care about.

You are correct that dedicated devices are always better but if I have a device that can do a lot of things, why not take it to its limits and see how far it will go? :)

aleks
02-05-2010, 11:05 AM
I have a quick question or two. The edge is supposed to read pdf files. Does this mean that they are regular pdf files or special files for Adobe Adept? I am unfamiliar with Adept and worry that the pdf files I downloaded from Google books may not work on the Edge if it ahs Adept on it.

paulckennedy
02-05-2010, 02:25 PM
Adept handles the DRM scheme. If DRM is not present, then the PDF just works. If it does have Adept DRM, then the PDF is opened after the Adept DRM is validated.

wallcraft
02-05-2010, 03:02 PM
The edge is supposed to read pdf files. Does this mean that they are regular pdf files or special files for Adobe Adept? Adobe Digital Editions reads all PDF/A files and supports some extensions beyond that (restrictive) subset of PDF. It does not support passworded PDFs. I'm not sure if it supports Google Books PDFs, which contain highly compressed images (http://books.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=44668).

One way to check would be to try the Sony eBook Library (http://ebookstore.sony.com/download/) viewer (Mac or PC) which uses mobile Adobe Digital Editions to display PDFs, just like the eDge.

paulckennedy
02-05-2010, 03:21 PM
Adobe Digital Editions reads all PDF/A files and supports some extensions beyond that (restrictive) subset of PDF. It does not support passworded PDFs. I'm not sure if it supports Google Books PDFs, which contain highly compressed images (http://books.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=44668).

One way to check would be to try the Sony eBook Library (http://ebookstore.sony.com/download/) viewer (Mac or PC) which uses mobile Adobe Digital Editions to display PDFs, just like the eDge.

::bow2:
I concede your brilliance!

aleks
02-05-2010, 03:34 PM
Many Thanks!!!!!