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yokos
07-10-2006, 08:03 AM
Status quo: We are still waiting for an brown UPS car delivering an iLiad.
So we have some time for off-topic threads. Have we?

Q: what will you read first on iLiad?
My answer:

Technical Manual of USS Enterprise [Star Trek] (just for fun)
»Solaris« by Stanislaw Lem (I like Lem's novels)
lecture scrips, scientific specialized press etc. (Business is the salt of life.)
German weekly newspaper »Die Zeit« (Will it replace printed version? Will it viable to read a lage-sized pdf on iLiad?)

ElaHuguet
07-10-2006, 08:07 AM
PG Wodehouse, I have several prepared for the iLiad already. :)

Stuart Young
07-10-2006, 08:09 AM
Foucault's Pendulum By Umberto Eco :)
File ready an waiting.

yokos
07-10-2006, 08:10 AM
Yepp, I croped some pdf-files already.
A CF-Card with many files is waiting to be used.

CommanderROR
07-10-2006, 08:10 AM
"The gods of Riverworld" by Philip Jose Farmer, I started it on my PDA and will finish it on my Iliad if i don't finish it before the Iliad arrives...

Stuart Young
07-10-2006, 08:18 AM
What size did you crop too?

FGFuzaxx
07-10-2006, 08:29 AM
"The gods of Riverworld" by Philip Jose Farmer, I started it on my PDA and will finish it on my Iliad if i don't finish it before the Iliad arrives...

Very good! What a pity, that I have already read the whole series a few times over, oherwise it would be a good start.

I think I will try some Uplift-Novels from Brin.

Greetings, Frank

yokos
07-10-2006, 08:39 AM
What size did you crop too?
I croped the unprinted white margin of the pdf page in hope that iLiad screen will show less unused space without zooming etc.

Some documents I printed in a 12/16 cm page size for testing purposes.

We will see out it will work in real. :scholar:

ali
07-10-2006, 08:41 AM
Q: what will you read first on iLiad?


A script on differential geometry (http://www.math.hu-berlin.de/~falk/files/diffgeo1.pdf).

CommanderROR
07-10-2006, 08:54 AM
@ali
Oh dear...^^

@FGFuzaxx

Did you read the "World of Tiers" by F.J. Farmer? I read that one in paper many years ago and it was actually a very good series, maybe even better than Riverworld. It goes a bit too deeply into the gory details sometimes, but otherwise is a very imaginative and interesting story. Riverworld is cool as well, but the volume i'm reading now has lots of (IMHO) unnecessary lengths. I is pretty cool however that Farmer goes to such ends to make his charakters correspond witht he ture historical figures...lots of work has gone into that!

R2D2
07-10-2006, 09:03 AM
NZ Herald from July 2nd 2007

Janus
07-10-2006, 09:16 AM
What size did you crop too?

Print your documets to PDF with these settings for best result: :wink:

Paper size: A5 (width 14.8 cm Height 21 cm)
and the following Margins:
Top: 0.5 cm
Bottom: 0.5 cm
Left: 0.1 cm
Right: 0.1 cm

Sischa
07-10-2006, 09:27 AM
PDF version of the "Handelsblatt" ...

I am also very excited to see if it could replace the paper format ...

High 5
07-10-2006, 09:47 AM
I've got a few old "Jack vance"'s waiting in the corridor.
Have read those many times but reading Vance is like walking through a forest you visited before.
Same roads, different views.

LauretteBradley
07-10-2006, 10:42 AM
Waverly, Sir Walter Scott

ThinkNeXT
07-10-2006, 10:55 AM
Hibernate in Action by Patrick Peak and Nick Heudecker

BTW, I found a nice new use for my soon-to-be-owned Iliad: I will put the reference manuals of all my appliances, phones, etc. on a SD-card to always have them with me and never search one of those again. And I think the manuals for every technical device of anybody I know who are always asking me for help with their stuff too...

arivero
07-10-2006, 11:40 AM
ArXiv.org papers.

Also I have got a good bunch of scanned textbooks.

The GreatGonzo
07-10-2006, 11:55 AM
Lots and lots of Project Gutenberg public domain stuff that I never got around to reading in the hardcopy version, also some Doc Savage, books by John Buchan, Jules Verne, Conan Doyle - and the Flashman novels, as soon as I get around to scanning them...

BTW, I don't want to sound too much like a little old lady, but is anybody planning on using the Iliad for crossword puzzles? If so, where's a good place to pick some up?

ali
07-10-2006, 12:03 PM
BTW, I don't want to sound too much like a little old lady, but is anybody planning on using the Iliad for crossword puzzles? If so, where's a good place to pick some up?

As long as you cannot write onto pdfs, there's not much fun in doing crosswords, right?

arivero
07-10-2006, 12:23 PM
As long as you cannot write onto pdfs, there's not much fun in doing crosswords, right?
Cann't we? The full pdf specification included writting at some time.

VillageReader
07-10-2006, 03:39 PM
That depends on how soon 'soon' is on the iRex 'DRM' comment. If it is available by the time the Iliad gets here, then it will most likely be something from the library (if they have DRMd Mobipocket or .pdf as one of the choices) - but that choice will be somewhat whimsical depending what I feel like at the time. If DRM file access is not available immediately, it will most likely be Captain Blood by Sabatini or something else interesting from project Gutenberg.

FGFuzaxx
07-10-2006, 04:07 PM
...

@FGFuzaxx

Did you read the "World of Tiers" by F.J. Farmer? I read that one in paper many years ago and it was actually a very good series, maybe even better than Riverworld.
...


The world of Tiers, yes this a truly classic one! I have the (german) all in one book - 1500 pages +- . Yes I know almost everthing from Farmer, he is one of my favourites, like A.E. van Vogt, Brin, Baxter, Banks, Shekley to name a few.
Riverworld has its length, but for it is holding the expectations high and you want to read the next page and the next and so on ...

But we want to have the reader, content is our last concern ;)

Greetings,
Frank

CommanderROR
07-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Content is our next concern...there is always a next concern...^^

tribble
07-10-2006, 04:11 PM
i am going to read "Waiting for Godot"

CommanderROR
07-10-2006, 04:25 PM
as a Paper book...^^

Tscherno
07-11-2006, 02:53 AM
All "Discworl" Novels again :)

VillageReader
07-11-2006, 04:43 AM
That depends on how soon 'soon' is on the iRex 'DRM' comment. If it is available by the time the Iliad gets here, then it will most likely be something from the library (if they have DRMd Mobipocket or .pdf as one of the choices) - but that choice will be somewhat whimsical depending what I feel like at the time. If DRM file access is not available immediately, it will most likely be Captain Blood by Sabatini or something else interesting from project Gutenberg.

Hmmm, maybe The Woman in White by Collins since my wife and I saw the Broadway show when we were in NYC last fall. (Did I mention whimsy above?).

The GreatGonzo
07-11-2006, 06:45 AM
As long as you cannot write onto pdfs, there's not much fun in doing crosswords, right?

I was thinking in terms of using the stylus to edit a jpg. Wouldn't that be the way to do a crossword on the Iliad?

b_k
07-11-2006, 09:29 AM
If i ever order it:
maybe ... Neverending Story? :laugh4:


for real, i found some nice PDFs at http://www.gasl.org/ (Arno Schmidt reader society). They have some decent PDFs from Jules Verne (in german).

kwizmaster
07-11-2006, 10:01 AM
I will start reading (because I never did) with old Homers Ilias (Iliad). Hope to find a german translation ;)
Irex should add this book as a standard.

tribble
07-11-2006, 10:06 AM
here you go: http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/homer/ilias/ilias.htm

kwizmaster
07-11-2006, 12:49 PM
@tribble: thx - now I remember why I never finished that book. Uuuhh - hard to read.

arivero
07-11-2006, 12:55 PM
Para los castellanohablantes, hay una version ritmica de la Iliada traducida por Agustin Garcia-Calvo. Muy recomendable.

Tscherno
07-11-2006, 02:04 PM
here you go: http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/homer/ilias/ilias.htm
Good that you mentioned it: Is there a way to download the complete books from this site?

tribble
07-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Good that you mentioned it: Is there a way to download the complete books from this site?

Depends on the books. Some are available as complete download, others arent. They want to rework that, but i dont know when.

b_k
07-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Good that you mentioned it: Is there a way to download the complete books from this site?
try the main site:
www.gutenberg.org

There seem to be most titles available at least as .txt-file.

edit: sorry, didn't realize that Gutenberg and Gutenberg-DE are a bit different.

ElaHuguet
07-11-2006, 02:11 PM
¿Versión rítmica? ¿O sea, en plan poético?

arivero
07-12-2006, 03:32 AM
¿Versión rítmica? ¿O sea, en plan poético?
xactamente, pero en verso castellano (sin rimar, en plan hexametros) Y pensando de una forma muy retorcida: que al igual que los griegos la entendian pero les sonaba "antiguo", hay que usar un castellano que parezca "clasico" aunque sea al coste de inventarse palabras.

ElaHuguet
07-12-2006, 03:43 AM
Jajaja... vale, gracias... quizá un día me lanze a por ello, aunque normalmente leo en inglés. :)

Riocaz
07-12-2006, 03:55 AM
I'll be using it for manuals/news/and whatever I can find from Gutenburg and the Baen Free Library.

Shame Blackmask is still down. I would have read my way through the Shadow and Doc Savage series.

tribble
07-12-2006, 03:57 AM
i think i might finish "moving mars" from greg bear on it. if it arrives, before i am through.

Riocaz
07-13-2006, 05:46 AM
I wonder how hard Baen are being hit by iLiad purchasers downloading from the free library...

I now have everything up to Eric Flint (well except Andre Norton, who I can't read)

Anyone else downloading (I'm downloading the RTF versions, and converting them into HTML as the HTML downloads are broken up by chapter and the RTF arn't.

And I grabbed a copy of Homer's Iliad from Project Gutenberg.

Henrycat
07-13-2006, 07:05 AM
I'm converting Baen cds from http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/.

This way i can read series, and some of the ebooks that aren't in the free library yet :)

I also prefer to convert from the RTF, since Indesign keeps the structure, italics, bolds, etc. I just have to import one file, flow it in my template, and aply justification/hiphenization. (Also like to add the cover from the cd gallery).

3 minutes for book, and it's ready to go :)

A lot quicker than converting to the Librie :p

Riocaz
07-13-2006, 10:42 AM
Nice, thanks Henrique. I start there tomorrow.

anorak
07-18-2006, 10:14 AM
Henrycat I was excited to read your brief description of your conversion process above and how quick it was. I am a technical computer user but not a designer and so I have never used Indesign, but do have access to a mac with it on. I was wondering if you would mind expanding on what you said above so that I could have a slightly informed go at this myself and if its not too cheeky would you share your template? I'm sure that there are other users here who could benefit as well

regards
Scott

Henrycat
07-18-2006, 10:51 AM
Henrycat I was excited to read your brief description of your conversion process above and how quick it was. I am a technical computer user but not a designer and so I have never used Indesign, but do have access to a mac with it on. I was wondering if you would mind expanding on what you said above so that I could have a slightly informed go at this myself and if its not too cheeky would you share your template? I'm sure that there are other users here who could benefit as well

regards
Scott

I'll try to bring the files tomorrow and maybe a little tutorial with the quicksteps on how i do it ;)

Maybe i'll create an Iliad fan site, like the one i used to have for the Librie :p

If only i had net at home -_-''

anorak
07-19-2006, 02:50 AM
I'll try to bring the files tomorrow and maybe a little tutorial with the quicksteps on how i do it ;)

Maybe i'll create an Iliad fan site, like the one i used to have for the Librie :p

If only i had net at home -_-''

Thanks Henrycat!

don-redhorse
07-19-2006, 10:46 AM
Hi,

take this:
http://www.ebook-bibliothek.org/eintrag_119.html

It's "Dideldum" from the german author Wilhelm Busch and it is really funny to read.
(128 x 210) ... works good.

FGFuzaxx
07-19-2006, 11:18 AM
Hi,

take this:
http://www.ebook-bibliothek.org/eintrag_119.html

It's "Dideldum" from the german author Wilhelm Busch and it is really funny to read.
(128 x 210) ... works good.

Hi Don,

nothing from Perry for you for the first attempt to read something on the ILiad? E.g. the first few pages from 2300 (http://www.presse.perry-rhodan.net/bilder/material/PR2300Leseprobe.pdf) ?

:wink:

Greetings, Frank

don-redhorse
07-19-2006, 02:25 PM
Hi Don,

nothing from Perry for you for the first attempt to read something on the ILiad? E.g. the first few pages from 2300 (http://www.presse.perry-rhodan.net/bilder/material/PR2300Leseprobe.pdf) ?

:wink:

Greetings, Frank

Don't worry. 77 "Silberbände PR" are mine. Only I have to convert them from A4 to A5.

High 5
07-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Don't worry. 77 "Silberbände PR" are mine. Only I have to convert them from A4 to A5.

That is nostalgia for me.
I still have the first 100 Perry Rhodans -in Dutch.
Used to look forward to the thursdays when a new PR would drop on the doormat. :)

FGFuzaxx
07-20-2006, 12:55 AM
That is nostalgia for me.
I still have the first 100 Perry Rhodans -in Dutch.
Used to look forward to the thursdays when a new PR would drop on the doormat. :)

This I do for almost 18 Jears now :wink: I hope, that the mobiread format will be supported in the near future, then I can read PR the "right" way :wink:

Devlar
07-20-2006, 02:41 AM
From the looks of the competitors as well as the overwhelming community support for the Illiad it is very likely I'll get one. When that happens my first piece will most likely be:

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-24fd.pdf

I have to get through it eventually. Educational and entertaining.

Riocaz
07-20-2006, 03:49 AM
For the record I'm reading 1633 by Eric Flint.

It's very good (and free in thei Baen Library)

masc
07-20-2006, 06:10 AM
This I do for almost 18 Jears now :wink: I hope, that the mobiread format will be supported in the near future, then I can read PR the "right" way :wink:

Cool here also some Perry fans :-). By the way you can get Perry Rhodan eBooks from www.readersplanet.de as a PDF format. End the best is, the are not encrypted :-).

vvoi666
07-20-2006, 06:13 AM
Cool here also some Perry fans :-). By the way you can get Perry Rhodan eBooks from www.readersplanet.de as a PDF format. End the best is, the are not encrypted :-).

really? i bought a few atlan books (palm pdb) from them and they were drmed as hell. couldn't get them to work in anything but ereader.

FGFuzaxx
07-20-2006, 06:17 AM
Cool here also some Perry fans :-). By the way you can get Perry Rhodan eBooks from www.readersplanet.de as a PDF format. End the best is, the are not encrypted :-).

Hi masc,

yes indeed! At least some have to read the series (http://www.perry-rhodan.net), otherwise it would't have managed to life 45 years.

I know the site, but i didn't know that the PDFs are not encrypted. How fast are they available (today is 2344 at my doorstep)? And do you think the price is reasonable (1.38 € compared to 1.75€ real Paper)? I thought that the LKS and the PR Computer is missing, is this right?

Greetings, Frank

ad astra!

masc
07-20-2006, 08:07 AM
Hi FGFuzaxx,

I'm started with readerplanet on issue 2300 (before only Silberband reader :-). Some of the first issues hat some DRM encryption but above 2315 I got a normal PDF with no encryption.

Normaly the have the new issues on Thursday afternoon available. I yust checkt , and the issue 2344 is now online. So I think they are faster or same then a normal delivery.
One big drawback is that there are no "Risszeichnung" in it, I don't know why they not include that.

About the Price: Sure I't could always be cheaper but I have no problem with that price (1,258 Euro one Issue for the "Buchpacket" Abo). The main reason I bought the eBook version is that I do not have the place for all the books. The are all occupied by the Silberband Books :).