I have a Powerbook running 10.4.x. Will I be able to use the 360 with it?

I have a Powerbook running 10.4.x. Will I be able to use the 360 with it?

Yes. Works fine. There seems to be a small issue with unmounting the device but that is absolutely harmless!

Yes. The unmounting of Pocketbook is an interesting thing. I believe that it was made on purpose - not to react on "eject" command and be ready to safely disconnected any time))

My experience with a 301 on OSX 10.6.2 is that if I eject it remounts again right away but if I run the Disk Utility and unmount the volumes without an eject it works fine. I assume the 360 works the same way.

My experience with a 301 on OSX 10.6.2 is that if I eject it remounts again right away but if I run the Disk Utility and unmount the volumes without an eject it works fine. I assume the 360 works the same way.

Yes. I don't do any moves to unmount a device, be it 360 or 301, just plug the wire off)

Did I mention that I also have a Mac, iMac actually and all my PBs mount and unmount w/o any trouble.

Did I mention that I also have a Mac, iMac actually and all my PBs mount and unmount w/o any trouble.



Which iMAC do you have ? the new ones ?

Yes. The unmounting of Pocketbook is an interesting thing. I believe that it was made on purpose - not to react on "eject" command and be ready to safely disconnected any time))

No it's a bug/forget from netronix, not a on purpose reaction

Which iMAC do you have ? the new ones ?
Well... it's not THE NEWEST and THE COOLEST 28-inch monitor monster))), but a last years edition of iMacs with 24-inch screen and almost all bells-n-whistles... 2.8Ghz processor, etc.

No it's a bug/forget from netronix, not a on purpose reaction

Really? I liked to think about it as a special feature, aimed at making life easier for those who like everything quick and zag against the general zig)OK, it's just me)

Help! So I got my new PocketBook 360 but I can't get it to mount on my powerbook. PB360 says "connected to PC" but it doesn't show on my laptop.

Help! So I got my new PocketBook 360 but I can't get it to mount on my powerbook. PB360 says "connected to PC" but it doesn't show on my laptop.

Do you have another cable to try?

Yes, I tried another cable. Still no luck.

it's sad...
What I can suggest is to go and try this device on other Mac or/and PC computer... if it mounts than it's the Mac is to blame, I mean, PBs somehow don't work with this particular breed of Macs... if it doesn't - than it's PB itself, something wrong with it...

OK, the issue of "ejecting" readers from Mac OS X pops up every now and then, so perhaps we need a sticky somewhere, but I'm not sure where. It's a Mac "problem" and occurs with various devices - there's actually nothing wrong, you just have to know how to unmount the device correctly. I'm sure I've posted this in other places on this forum, but couldn't find the link (I also posted it over on the BeBook forum (http://mybebook.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=4719) back in April 2009).

I use a little app called "Hidden Cleaner" - I found it very good but not too intuitive at first. It is in fact exceedingly simple to use, once you know how. So here are my tips based on my usage experience with Hidden Cleaner (I haven't tried other tools like BlueHarvest myself, but it also looks OK):

Installation:

(1) Download Hidden Cleaner:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27416/hidden-cleaner
http://kerosene.free.fr/ (developer's page - here you can find 2.0 beta1 & 1.2.1)
(there's a bunch of download places if you just google "mac os x hidden cleaner" - it's free!)

Note: Snow Leopard users need 2.0 beta 1, but I recommend using v1.2.1 on Leopard or below - the developer's site is in French and they advise "beacoup prudence" using 2.0 as it is in beta - I decided to play with it and it works, but I recommend using 1.2.1 until they do a formal v2.0 release.

(2) Depending where you downloaded from, either mount the disk image (HiddenCleaner_1.2.1.dmg) or unzip the file (HiddenCleaner_1.2.1.zip) and drag the "Hidden Cleaner 1.2.1" app to your Applications folder, as per usual. Eject the disk image (if using the .dmg file).

(3) If you now open the Hidden Cleaner app (double-click) you just get a nice little info message which tells you in French and English to "Simply drag your external device onto Hidden Cleaner to clean and eject it". If you click OK it close, and that's all the info you get - not too helpful. :smack:

Usage:

(4) To make the best use of Hidden Cleaner, open your Applications folder in Finder and drag the Hidden Cleaner application icon onto the Dock and release it. Once there, click and hold the mouse on the icon to reveal the context menu (or ctrl-click, or right mouse click if you have a two-button mouse). From the menu select "Keep in Dock". I place it in the first position for easy access as I use it often (far right of the dock just before the special stacks area that contains the trash can, applications stack, downloads stack, etc.).

(5) Now Hidden Cleaner will always be in the Dock, and when you need to clean and eject your USB drive, SD card, BeBook, etc., just drag the external drive's icon from the Desktop onto the Hidden Cleaner Dock item and a little pop-up will appear with the message: "Ejection?" - if you click OK the app will take a few seconds to clean and eject the drive, depending on size/type of device (BeBook takes longer because it's only USB 1.1). Once the device icon disappears from the Desktop you can safely remove it from the USB cable.

Note: Sometimes the device cleaning/ejection takes some time (20-30 secs), and the device may not eject. You will notice this because the little Hidden Cleaner "busy" mouse indicator (rotating black/white wheel) returns to the normal mouse arrow, and the active application indicator under the Hidden Cleaner Dock icon disappears, but your drive icon is still on the desktop (i.e. still mounted). I think there may be some kind of timeout in the app for the unmount/eject commands. Anyway, if this happens, just repeat the procedure by dragging the drive icon onto the Hidden Cleaner Dock icon and acknowledging the "Ejection?" query. The device should then clean and eject correctly (usually very quickly as the cleaning was completed the first time around).

eBook Devices:

(6) As for eBook devices, I usually only plug in my SD/microSD card via a card reader, so the above procedure works fine. But when I do connect my device directly (PB360, BeBook, etc.) after I'm done I use Hidden Cleaner to first clear off the hidden Mac files. The device (PB360, BeBook, etc.) will clean and eject, then remount within a few seconds. So here's what to do:

(7) Once I have cleaned the device in this way and it has remounted, I then use "Disk Utility" (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility) to select the BeBook volume and then choose "Unmount" - remember to choose the volume, not the device itself (in the list of devices on the left of Disk Utility you will see first the physical device, then all the logical volumes on that device - your eBook reader should only have one volume, unless you've partitoned it into more for some reason), and choose "Unmount" rather than "Eject" (if you eject the volume will just remount a few seconds later). Once unmounted, the device can be safely disconnected from your Mac.

Sounds troublesome, but it's quick and easy once you know what to do.

Note: I usually never connect my BeBook or PB360 to the Mac with an SD card inserted. In principle it should be fine, but why tempt fate? I have all my books on the SD card and manage that with a card reader, and the one time I connected my PB360 with an SD card in, when I cleaned then unmounted both volumes, the PB360 restarted and gave me an error reading the SD card. A reboot fixed the problem, but I had lost all the bookmarks and the page of the book I was reading (opened at page 1). So I would avoid it for now. The PB360 has a little bug when it comes to the SD card - if you boot the device it will not read the card at first, and as soon as you click something like "Books" the device reboots and finds the card. Never has a problem, and takes only 5-10 seconds, but clearly there's a bit of a bug in the software, so I recommend always connecting the two memory devices to your computer separately.

Alternative Method:

Apparently there's another method that I haven't tried:

If you are using OS X 10.5 or newer you don't need to install any software to clean the ._ files.

You just need to open the Terminal and type:

dot_clean /"path to folder of device"

usually when mounted the path is something like:

/Volumes/BEBOOK

so you just need to open the terminal and do

dot_clean /Volumes/BEBOOK

(The Terminal is in the Utilities Folder in the Applications folder)


I hope this lengthy post helps! :eek:

The real problem come from the Netronix/Pocketbook device for
- Recognition of the device
- Non ejecting device.

Bookeen had this problem with older firmware, and was corrected in the newer firmware.

The real problem come from the Netronix/Pocketbook device for
- Recognition of the device
- Non ejecting device.

Bookeen had this problem with older firmware, and was corrected in the newer firmware.

I guess most developers focus on making it Windows compatible, and don't care much about Mac / Linux compatibility as long as it can be connected to the computer.

Although I'm surprised this problem is still appearing in so many devices - as I said I had it with the BeBook (Hanlin V3) and now the PB360. I wonder of Sony or Kindle have a similar problem with Macs? :chinscratch:

I have a Powerbook running 10.4.x. Will I be able to use the 360 with it?

I have the exact same setup and I can't see the PB on mine either. Very disappointed. Luckily I have a windoze computer too and use that for those rare times I need to see the device. If all you need to do is put books on your memory card, then use a card reader (easier to do anyway I think).

Yar, do you have 10.6 on your iMac? I wonder if the newer OS sees it but not our old Tigers. I think I'll be asking for 10.6 upgrade for my BD in April... Hopefully that solves it.

I have the exact same setup and I can't see the PB on mine either. Very disappointed. Luckily I have a windoze computer too and use that for those rare times I need to see the device. If all you need to do is put books on your memory card, then use a card reader (easier to do anyway I think).

Yar, do you have 10.6 on your iMac? I wonder if the newer OS sees it but not our old Tigers. I think I'll be asking for 10.6 upgrade for my BD in April... Hopefully that solves it.

I run Leopard (10.5.8) and have no problems recognising BeBook or PB360. I only have the eject "issue" but use my process above to clean then unmount the device.

I have never had a problem with the device being recognised on Leopard - I would suggest there may be a device issue is this is the case? In fact, my BeBook was more flakey on Windows than Mac OS X, and would sometimes take forever to get recognised then not mount.

The non mounting problem generally appear with <=10.4 and 10.6 but not 10.5

I have the exact same setup and I can't see the PB on mine either. Very disappointed. Luckily I have a windoze computer too and use that for those rare times I need to see the device. If all you need to do is put books on your memory card, then use a card reader (easier to do anyway I think).

Yar, do you have 10.6 on your iMac? I wonder if the newer OS sees it but not our old Tigers. I think I'll be asking for 10.6 upgrade for my BD in April... Hopefully that solves it.

I use 10.5.8......

PB 360 works just fine on my work computer (a PC). It will have to do for now until I upgrade by OS or my computer. Thanks everyone.

I guess most developers focus on making it Windows compatible, and don't care much about Mac / Linux compatibility as long as it can be connected to the computer.

Although I'm surprised this problem is still appearing in so many devices - as I said I had it with the BeBook (Hanlin V3) and now the PB360. I wonder of Sony or Kindle have a similar problem with Macs? :chinscratch:

My iRiver Story (firmware 1.61) also remounts itself after eject. I usually unplug it right after the volume icons disappear from the desktop.

My iRiver Story (firmware 1.61) also remounts itself after eject. I usually unplug it right after the volume icons disappear from the desktop.

Yeah I used to do that with the BeBook at first, and occaissionally wouldn;t be quick enough and get the "Device Removal" errorif you don't eject properly. It never caused a problem with my BeBook, but I guess you could corrupt some data on there doing that. Better to use one of the safe methods (Disk Utility or command line umount).

I wrote an AppleScript for unmounting my reader so it does not reappear. I posted it in the german subforum already but thought someone might want to try it here:
(*
Script for unmounting reappearing eBook reader volumes
written for mobileread forums, © 2010 ischeriad
*)

set VolumeName to "STORY"

tell application "Finder"
if (exists the disk VolumeName) then
set MountPoint to do shell script "diskutil info '" & VolumeName & "' | sed -n 's/.*Mount Point[^/]*//p'"
do shell script "dot_clean -n '" & MountPoint & "' && diskutil unmount '" & MountPoint & "'"
end if
end tell
Replace the VolumeName (here STORY) with the actual volume name of your device. Open Utilities/AppleScript Editor.app and save the script to ~/Library/Scripts. When you enable the Script menu in AppleScript Editor, you can access the script directly from the menu bar.

I appreciate feedback on the script, it works with my iRiver Story.

The non mounting problem generally appear with <=10.4 and 10.6 but not 10.5

I'm a little surprised about this. 10.4 = Tiger, right? And these eBook devices should just appear as mass memory storage devices (like a USB stick). I never had a problem mounting any device in Tiger.

Perhaps if you set to device to automatically link to the PC when you connect a USB? I have mine ask, because sometimes I don't want to mount it, but perhaps in the device settings if you choose to always connect it will do it? (Although I'm guessng you've probably tried this already?).

This is not a Tiger/SnowLeopard bug, but a device bug.

This is not a Tiger/SnowLeopard bug, but a device bug.

So all the Netronix devices share that bug?

So all the Netronix devices share that bug?

My Cybook Gen3 does eject properly and doesn't remount after being ejected. My PocketBook 301+ ejects but then remounts again. Both are Netronix. I agree with Godzil it's something with the PB firmware but not a serious problem.

If I unmount the PB volume instead of ejecting the device it works. I understand that even the unmount isn't necessary but I'm not going to take the chance.

just get rid of the Apple crap already

I have extended the script to allow unmounting of the reader and memory card(s) together.

(*
Script for unmounting reappearing eBook reader volumes
writen for mobileread forums, © 2010 ischeriad
*)

set ListOfVolumeNames to {"STORY", "STORY SD"}

tell application "Finder"
repeat with VolumeName in ListOfVolumeNames
if (exists the disk VolumeName) then
set MountPoint to do shell script "diskutil info '" & VolumeName & "' | sed -n 's/.*Mount Point[^/]*//p'"
do shell script "dot_clean -n '" & MountPoint & "' && diskutil unmount '" & MountPoint & "'"
end if
end repeat
end tell

Has anyone been able to mount the Pocketbook 360 on an Apple Powerbook G4?
The company is working on a fix via firmware, but I'm hoping there's a way right now.
Anyone?

Thanks

Which OS X version ?

I think you have just only the way to plug an pray..

Yes. Works fine. There seems to be a small issue with unmounting the device but that is absolutely harmless!


I just got a Pocketbook 360 and it is NOT recognized by my Powerbook G4 with Tiger (OSX 10.4.11). The company told me they're working on a fix.

Has anyone been able to make it work on a Powerbook G4 with Tiger?

I just got a Pocketbook 360 and it is NOT recognized by my Powerbook G4 with Tiger (OSX 10.4.11). The company told me they're working on a fix.

Has anyone been able to make it work on a Powerbook G4 with Tiger?

We will insist that this problem be solved as soon as possible.

Perhaps the Pocketbook developers could look at the Cybook Opus firmware. I read that their firmware fixed this issue.

All that's needed is to upgrade the system software to OS X 10.5 (Leopard).

I just did it and it worked. I got a folder on my computer called Pocket101.

We will insist that this problem be solved as soon as possible.

The problem is no more. I finally mounted my 360 on a Powerbook G4 !

All that's needed is to upgrade the system software to OS X 10.5 (Leopard).

A folder appeared on my computer called Pocket101.

Updating the OS is not a solution. This is like a ostrich, where put their head in sand.

Updating the OS is not a solution. This is like a ostrich, where put their head in sand.

I wrote Pocketbook asking them to fix it for older systems too.
Please write them yourself, so they know it's not just me.

Thanks

I wrote Pocketbook asking them to fix it for older systems too.
Please write them yourself, so they know it's not just me.

Thanks

We are listening to these threads all the time and try to help as good as we can.

I am PR-manager @Pocketbook

I'm glad I found this thread, even if it is too late.

I just got my new PB360 yesterday and it won't mount on my mac running OSX 10.4.11. Before I bought it I specifically asked on this forum which would be the best ereader for my mac with that operating system and I was told to get the PB360 is would work fine. But now it doesn't!!!! Why should I have to change my operating system to make these things work?!

Ggggrrrrr!!!

So now I have to put the books on a card with my card reader do I? This is not how I thought this would work. How do I arrange them that way? I wanted to do it all through calibre but that's not going to pick up the card is it?!

Help please!!!

Sorry to note your troubles bowiegirl.

This is an oldish thread - be patient one of the experts will notice its resurrection and will be able to assist ... good luck !

Sorry to note your troubles bowiegirl.

This is an oldish thread - be patient one of the experts will notice its resurrection and will be able to assist ... good luck !

Thanks for the support!!

Thanks for the support!!

Hi, so let's get this on the road: What firmware is installed on your 360? What kind of processor on your Mac?

Hey ... it works !

Now we need to keep the momentum .....

Hi, so let's get this on the road: What firmware is installed on your 360? What kind of processor on your Mac?

The processor on my mac is 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

I don't know about the firmware on the 360, how do I find that out?.... wait I think I found it....
is it W101.15.1?

The processor on my mac is 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

I don't know about the firmware on the 360, how do I find that out?.... wait I think I found it....
is it W101.15.1?

Latest FW is 15.2, please try upgrading.

Latest FW is 15.2, please try upgrading.

Where do I download that from? The download page on the website only appears to have 15.1

I'm new to all of this and finding you have to be very tech savvy for this....

Where do I download that from? The download page on the website only appears to have 15.1

I'm new to all of this and finding you have to be very tech savvy for this....

No, not really. Normally you wouldn't have to play around with your PB, except for the bad Mac thing. It's really only the combination between the Mac version and the PB version. So we have to get rid of one of the problems. Please PM Forkosigan and ask him for 15.2. In the download, you will find a how to.

Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on ....

Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on ....

will do

I don't know who say you that PB360 will be a great device with MacOS, netronix/Pocketbook firmware have a lots of bug on the USB stack, and it does not work correctly on all version of OS X. You may need 10.5 to may have it work.

These ARE bugs of the netronix/PocketBook firmware, not bug from Mac OS.

I don't know who say you that PB360 will be a great device with MacOS, netronix/Pocketbook firmware have a lots of bug on the USB stack, and it does not work correctly on all version of OS X. You may need 10.5 to may have it work.

These ARE bugs of the netronix/PocketBook firmware, not bug from Mac OS.

I saw you post that further up... I specifically asked in this forum for a reader that would work with OS X 10.4.11. I'd been looking at Sonys but I saw that they have problems with the older operating systems. I was pointed towards the PB360 instead.

I'm not happy right now that I was misinformed. I do not want to update my OS. If my reader won't work I don't know what I'm going to do. :angry:

(In fact what's happen is that your PB360 is not recognised as a UMS drive, and it does not try to load the corresponding driver. 10.5 and 10.6 are more tolerant for such device, but anyway this is not the only bug found in the Netronix firmware (firmware that pocketbook used as their base code)

(In fact what's happen is that your PB360 is not recognised as a UMS drive, and it does not try to load the corresponding driver. 10.5 and 10.6 are more tolerant for such device, but anyway this is not the only bug found in the Netronix firmware (firmware that pocketbook used as their base code)

Are you telling me there's no fixing this, even if I update the firmware then? :blink:

Are you telling me there's no fixing this, even if I update the firmware then? :blink:

I think this bug was adressed in the new firmware. Please ask Forkosigan, though.

I think this bug was adressed in the new firmware. Please ask Forkosigan, though.

I have and have been waiting for a reply

I looked through Pocketbook's website and literature and I couldn't find any information about the OSes it supports. I recommend that it be added since it is a very important piece of data for prospective buyers.

I looked through Pocketbook's website and literature and I couldn't find any information about the OSes it supports. I recommend that it be added since it is a very important piece of data for prospective buyers.

Agreed!!

Mmmm... I do not want to sound crude, but what would they put? The device actually works in Windows XP, Vista and 7 (tried it personally on the three: I can't speak about older Windows versions), in Linux systems (tried it personally in Ubuntu and Puppy), and in Mac (no personal experience, as I've got no Mac to try :D). The only flawed case is this one, the fact that it seems not to plug correctly on older versions of Mac... Of course, it must be addressed (and as you can see, Pocketbook does address it), but in my opinion it's overkill to put a "list of OSes in which it works", as the only issue comes with Tiger 10.4 in Mac. In fact, a footnote saying "beware with older Mac versions" is fair enough.

Nevertheless, you bring a good topic: Pocketbook's literature is sadly lacking in English. Even developers have complained about the lack of documentation.

I feel for you bowiegirl1982. I'm the one that started this thread. I never got my PB360 to mount on my Powerbook running Tiger. Instead, I just used my PC at work. Since then I've upgraded to a MacBook Pro, only about two weeks ago, and have not moved my library or set up my PB360 yet on my new computer. According to the boards here it should work.

But you are right. Upgrading your OS is not an answer. I also asked before I purchased and was led to believe I wouldn't have a problem.

Mistake.

Mmmm... I do not want to sound crude, but what would they put? The device actually works in Windows XP, Vista and 7 (tried it personally on the three: I can't speak about older Windows versions), in Linux systems (tried it personally in Ubuntu and Puppy), and in Mac (no personal experience, as I've got no Mac to try :D). The only flawed case is this one, the fact that it seems not to plug correctly on older versions of Mac... Of course, it must be addressed (and as you can see, Pocketbook does address it), but in my opinion it's overkill to put a "list of OSes in which it works", as the only issue comes with Tiger 10.4 in Mac. In fact, a footnote saying "beware with older Mac versions" is fair enough.

Nevertheless, you bring a good topic: Pocketbook's literature is sadly lacking in English. Even developers have complained about the lack of documentation.

You can't possibly believe that a device's "System Requirements" is an unusual thing to list. Just about every piece of software and hardware has system requirements. I don't think...

System Requirements: Windows XP or above, Linux Kernel X.X or above, and Mac OS X 10.5 or above

...is that hard to list.

For a simple UMS drive, asking for a special version of the OS is nonsense, or your device have a bug.

Forkosigan has not replied to me and I'm still waiting for a reply from the guy I bought it from on ebay.... :-(

Forkosigan has not replied to me and I'm still waiting for a reply from the guy I bought it from on ebay.... :-(

I'll contact Fork.

I've got firmware 15.2 and that didn't work either :-(

I think I'm going to give up now.

I've got firmware 15.2 and that didn't work either :-(

I think I'm going to give up now.

Well, sorry. If you don't want to upgrade your Mac operation system, please return the reader with a small piece of paper explaining why you return it and we will, of course, repay your money. Again sorry for the trouble.

I've got firmware 15.2 and that didn't work either :-(

I think I'm going to give up now.

Don't give up. It is a nice reader. I have the same problem as you (10.4.11 on a MacBook). I use a card reader and put my books on the memory card. PB sees them on the card. I'm hoping to upgrade my system soon and hopefully that'll fix the direct connection issue. Until then I happily use the memory card with a card reader.

Hope this helps.

Anyone here successfully connecting the 360 to their Macs running OS 10.6.5 ?

I haven't had any luck with that.

Roger

Yes, works fine with me.

Anyone here successfully connecting the 360 to their Macs running OS 10.6.5 ?

I haven't had any luck with that.

Roger

Yes, I do that all the time. Only problem is you have to use disk utiliies to unmount the "drives" as ejecting them does not work correctly.

Yes, I do that all the time. Only problem is you have to use disk utiliies to unmount the "drives" as ejecting them does not work correctly.

The problem was that I was not fully charged. After charging, I connected to my Mac and voila, there was a Pocketbook 101 folder. Since that was the only folder, I could only add books.

To upgrade the firmware to 15.3, I had to use a SD card method which was successful.

Happy to be starting the new year with the new firmware.

May we see Heaven in Eleven and World Peace.