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cyberbaffled
10-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Is there an epub file editor; i.e., an application that will open a file, enable changes to the html therein, and then close the file in an epub format?

zelda_pinwheel
10-09-2009, 09:45 PM
try sigil, the epub editor (it has its own forum here). it sounds like just what you are looking for.

AnemicOak
10-09-2009, 09:54 PM
As Z says Sigil should give you what you want. You can use it as a WYSIWYG or edit the code directly.

Otherwise you can change the epub extension to zip and unzip it. Edit the files you want and copy them back into the zip, change back to .epub and you'll be set that way too.

gazza
10-09-2009, 10:08 PM
My partner in publishing believes that ePub will be THE standard. I am bewitched buggered and bewildered by the plethora (good word, that, meaning bloody excess) of standards. Is there a general consensus of opinion on this forum that epub is the way to go?

Gareth

AnemicOak
10-09-2009, 10:11 PM
My partner in publishing believes that ePub will be THE standard. I am bewitched buggered and bewildered by the plethora (good word, that, meaning bloody excess) of standards. Is there a general consensus of opinion on this forum that epub is the way to go?

Gareth

You'll get lots of opinions on thie, but ePub seems to be getting there, but not yet. There are to many legacy devices out there that can't read ePub. The other formats will be around for a while yet.

The good thing is once you've got the ePub conversion to other formats "usually" goes quite easily.

animedude01
10-10-2009, 12:46 AM
My partner in publishing believes that ePub will be THE standard. I am bewitched buggered and bewildered by the plethora (good word, that, meaning bloody excess) of standards. Is there a general consensus of opinion on this forum that epub is the way to go?

Gareth

New readers tend to support epub, although the kindle only supports mobi, so that format should be staying for a while longer.

WillAdams
10-12-2009, 08:57 AM
While .epub is likely going to be the file standard for end-users, I'd suggest using a richer format for original source formatting.

TEI covers pretty much everything I've even remotely considered using in a document:

http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml

One can even create custom schemas w/ a nifty on-line tool which are tailored to one's needs.

William

JSWolf
10-12-2009, 09:00 AM
While .epub is likely going to be the file standard for end-users, I'd suggest using a richer format for original source formatting.

TEI covers pretty much everything I've even remotely considered using in a document:

http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml

One can even create custom schemas w/ a nifty on-line tool which are tailored to one's needs.

William
If you have a good ePub, it's fairly easy to then convert to all the others from there. So really, ePub does make a good source format.

WillAdams
10-12-2009, 09:36 AM
``good'' != ideal

Does epub mark which quotes are beginning and which are ending? TEI does.

Does epub differentiate between single right quotes and apostrophes? TEI does.

&c.

``good enough'' isn't.

William

cyberbaffled
10-12-2009, 07:38 PM
Sigil won't open an epub file generated by InDesign CS4; which should be an authoritative epub code generator.

cyberbaffled
10-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Sigil won't open an epub file generated by InDesign CS4; which should be an authoritative epub code generator.

Now I'll try your epub-zip-epub transformation.

Thanks.

AnemicOak
10-12-2009, 07:50 PM
CS4 actually does a poor job of making ePub's from what I've read and found myself.

cyberbaffled
10-12-2009, 10:57 PM
That epub-zip-epub transformation worked; at least the first two stages. I'll change the html code that's inappropriate using Dreamweaver and save as xhtml again. Then I'll zip the archive again and rename as epub file type. Then when I open that in Digital Editions we'll see what I've got.

cyberbaffled
10-12-2009, 11:00 PM
I thought epub was Adobe's invention. I guess I was wrong.

AnemicOak
10-12-2009, 11:18 PM
I thought epub was Adobe's invention. I guess I was wrong.

Nope, they're just a big proponent of it and are the first company to add a DRM scheme to it. It was designed to be an "open" format by the International Digital Publishing Forum.
http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/EPUB

You would think CS4 would make the best possible ePub's with the involvement Adobe has with the format, but not so far. Some are hoping that'll change with CS5. I'd like to see an update to CS4.

WillAdams
10-13-2009, 08:37 AM
The problem is InDesign is built around the concept of a fixed-size page layout and hard-coded font sizes, but it has others sizes built into certain structures (e.g., tables).

If one were to layout a document on a page which approximated the size of a typical ebook reader, the results are much more readable. Not perfect, but at readable and workable.

Best thing is to encode the entire document in a sensible form of XML which can capture all nuances of the text such as TEI and then convert to dump into both ID and epub.

William

pdurrant
10-13-2009, 08:38 AM
Does the InDesign generated ePub pass epubcheck? If so, it's a bug in Sigil. If not, it may still be a bug in Sigil. Raise an issue and attach the document.

Sigil won't open an epub file generated by InDesign CS4; which should be an authoritative epub code generator.

gazza
10-16-2009, 02:05 AM
I see pdurrant is using:
“It is good that authors should be remunerated; and the least exceptionable way of remunerating them is by a monopoly. Yet monopoly is an evil. For the sake of the good we must submit to the evil; but the evil ought not to last a day longer than is necessary for the purpose of securing the good.” — Thomas Babbington Macauley
This is a splendid quotation but we should, perhaps, set the scene.
Macauley was speaking in parliament AGAINST the extension of copyright, not in favor of it.
It wonders me what Macauley would think of the current beggar's muddle where we have Internet booksellers being told, yes, you can sell it in the United States, but not in Australia. No reason given but I presume it is because Australians are loud, beer drinking people with small regard for pettifogging laws. I am an Australian although, at the moment, I am in Thailand.

Gareth Powell

pdurrant
10-16-2009, 04:27 AM
Contracts giving certain publishers regional rights is a distinct issue to copyright length.

Regional restrictions on ebooks have two parts

(i) existing contracts between the copyright holders and the publishers
(ii) the ruling that for electronic sales the sale location is the customer's location, not the retailer's.



what Macauley would think of the current beggar's muddle where we have Internet booksellers being told, yes, you can sell it in the United States, but not in Australia. No reason given but I presume it is because Australians are loud, beer drinking people with small regard for pettifogging laws. I am an Australian although, at the moment, I am in Thailand.

Gareth Powell

cyberbaffled
10-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Mark,

I just found this out researching my .epub OEPBS folder.

Thanks.

Richard

cyberbaffled
10-16-2009, 01:11 PM
Oops! Thanks Brian. Mark was from Mark Twain.

cyberbaffled
10-16-2009, 01:15 PM
Zelda,

As I mentioned in a previous post I couldn't get sigil to open my .epub file, but a perfect solution turns out to be Adobe Lab's "PBFXML Inspector".

Thanks again. Richard

cyberbaffled
10-16-2009, 01:16 PM
Brian,

Brian,

As I mentioned in a previous post I couldn't get sigil to open my .epub file, but a perfect solution turns out to be Adobe Lab's "PBFXML Inspector".

Thanks again. Richard