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sUnShInE
04-16-2003, 02:00 PM
I've been thinking about my next pda alot lately. Not that I'm bored with my Clie T615C by any stretch... But a girl can dream, right? :)

I just looked at this thread (http://209.151.85.177/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=194) and it seems, from the sample that responded, that we have a fair mix of both Clie and Palm owners here.

Obvious among the considerations of buying my next "Barbie Dream Pda", is that I'll get something with some kind of wireless capability, whether it be Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

I'm curious:

1.) What's your next pda going to be?
2.) Do you do any wireless functions now? If so, what? Via Bluetooth or dongle?
3.) Do you plan to go wireless in the future? And if so, what for? (ie, email, web surfing, etc)
4.) How do you think going wireless might change your offline (read: iSilo) habits, if at all?
5.) Have you even thought about this at all? ;)


Thanks for playing! :cool:

gvtexas
04-16-2003, 02:09 PM
I was having the same thoughts this morning, sunshine. Weird.

When I had my Handera, I dabbled online with it using a Palm Modem...worked semi-okay for email, sucked for anything web-related...but might be REALLY cool for icq/irc, etc...where the window is small anyway.

I've just signed up for the T-Mobile wireless service and hope to spend some happy moments with laptop at Starbucks...so not sure that I would entertain doing the same functions wirelessly with a PDA...mebbe a big Sony, but even still...kinda limited. Bluetooth is even more limiting, although that might change. Be nice to turn on the coffee pot in the morning from my easy chair with my Clie! Nonetheless, I wouldn't buy a "next" PDA that wasn't connectable in some way...wireless...bluetooth...something. If for no other reason than to be "in place" for the next generation of goodies/services.

My next PDA is crying out to be the three Fs: Faster, Fatter (storage) and Free-er ($$$)! Simple requests that i'm sure Sony will butcher in some way or another, but do so in a way I can't resist, and I'll be forced to accept their ROM-based browser that opens AllThingsSony.com when I turn the unit on... :rolleyes:

sUnShInE
04-17-2003, 05:08 PM
Gee, do we have something against Sony? ;)

I'm certain they'll come out with something fairly soon that will do everything that I want and not put me in the poor house. I felt that way about my current Clie.

Oh, how I would love to sit at Starbucks with just my slim and tiny pda and use their wifi. sigh

I apologize for not mentioning wifi in my intial post too.

saw9000
04-21-2003, 11:14 PM
1. I currently have an NX70V, and if it were not for that, I would probably be saving my nickels and dimes for a NZ90. However, my next PDA will probably be something that Sony releases when OS6 becomes available. I am highly fascinated by some of the improvements promised by OS6, and think them worth waiting for. The RAM limit improvement from Palm SG and PalmSource comes at a time when Sony would still be able to build it into an OS6 device. I also hope for OS6 to include a revamped version of VFS, one which supports FAT32, in order to work with cards larger than 2 GB.
2. I do use wireless now, both through Sony's own Wi-Fi card (I used a Socket card with my 330) and through IR with my T68i. A bit kludgy when my handset has built-in Bluetooth, I know, but I just haven't found myself willing thus far to shell out for the Bluetooth MemStick. Besides that, I have both my Web browser and my e-mail client stored on my MemStick, and I don't have enough free RAM to pull them both back off the card at the same time, so I'm essentially stuck using IR and leaving the MemStick slot open.
3. I hope not for wireless access at all, but for more seamless wireless access. Where I work, there is no Wi-Fi signal, and my wireless phone doesn't get a signal, so I have no wireless at all (Thankfully, I'm in a computer lab, so it doesn't matter). However, there are a lot of places on campus where this is the case, and where I can't get data at all. I would like to see a less broken connection with my data, the ability to log on from anywhere, using either my Wi-Fi card or my wireless phone (preferably the card, because university data access is free), and access my e-mail. It would be nice to have data access on a whim.
4. While wireless access is nice for the very latest news, and for forum surfing and other communication, I don't think anything will soon replace iSilo and the like for handheld data. Wireless access is still too rare and expensive to be used in such quantities. The amount of data I load to my handheld with one sync from iSilo would bankrupt my data allowance from my wireless provider in three tries. In other words, if I didn't have iSilo and my PC, I would be able to sync about every two weeks, plus whatever syncs I could get in using my wireless card. In short, I don't think my iSilo habits will change very much.
5. Yes...I admit, I've thought about it a little :)
Scott

sUnShInE
04-22-2003, 08:55 AM
Interesting Scott. I can see that you've thought about this!

I wasn't aware that they were working on OS6. I'm actually kind of scared of sticks that are more expensive than the handheld themselves. ;) Using my cell to go wireless has also been something that I haven't been all jazzed up to do, which is partially why wifi seems like a better solution. As you point out, if you're in a place with a consistent hotspot, and one that isn't subject to dip-outs, that's a bonus.

Without a tech-centric office environment though, most of us are subjected to shelling out at airports or Starbucks...at least for the time being.

saw9000
04-22-2003, 09:48 AM
Yep, OS6 is in development, and should be going golden master sometime in June. However, that date may end up getting adjusted, seeing as how the lead developer recently quit.

I refuse to pay that kind of money for an expansion card. I paid $0.33 US/MB for my Microdrive approaching a year and a half ago, so I'm not going to pay $0.64 US/MB now for a MemStick. It just doesn't make sense.

Using your wireless phone for wireless data is a workable solution, but unless you happen to have one of those rare, coveted unlimited use plans, the amount of data you can transfer is severely limited. Next, unless you have Bluetooth, you will need either a data cable or an IR connection in order to move data. Both tend to crimp my style, because they both preclude the simultaneous use of a keyboard by occupying the circuitry otherwise devoted to that purpose. IR, in addition requires line of sight, an inconvenience that I have come to know all too well. Finally, the connection will be anywhere from slow to unbearable. If you're trying to get any sizable data, then you will have problems there, too.

As for Wi-Fi, it's coming. For what it's worth, there aren't any Wi-Fi hotspots in the local airport or any of the Starbucks where I live. I'm also not lucky enough to live near one of the three or four McDonalds locations that have Wi-Fi access free with an Extra Value Meal :) I just happen to go to a university that has a few Wi-Fi AP's scattered about.
Scott

gvtexas
04-22-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by saw9000
For what it's worth, there aren't any Wi-Fi hotspots in the local airport or any of the Starbucks where I live.

When I got my T-mobile account, was very suprised that they don't support Louisiana AT ALL. I travel on biz to New Orleans several times a year, and was hoping to take advantage of the wifi-bucks connection....but alas, not yet. :(

Saud
04-23-2003, 05:13 AM
next pda?

check these specs

Palm OS 5
400Mhz (Intel PXA 255!)
64MB Ram
Transflective screen
inbuilt WiFi







and here it is :

http://www.palm.com/images/products/handhelds/tungsten-c/bboard_criticalwork.jpg

sUnShInE
04-23-2003, 01:01 PM
OMG. Do you like, work for Palm or what? :) Yea, I just saw the new TC. It looks sweet but very expensive. 5 bills? Yeowch. Too steep for me currently, but that is one hot item.

Saud
04-23-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by sUnShInE
OMG. Do you like, work for Palm or what? :)

ok I got a
tungsten T (gift)
m515
Clie T615 (gift)
Mitac Mio 338 (pocket pc)

err you still think i work for palm ;)


Hi... my name is Saud..and Im a PDA-Addict :p

sUnShInE
04-23-2003, 03:31 PM
Can you hook me up with your gift-givers, cuz I could surely use some people like that in my life.

Better yet: Hook them up with Alexander, who can sure use a new pda. (insert image of me taking up a collection for our fearless leader:) )

Btw, a friend of mine is emailing me that she's begun scheming to sell off several pieces of her vast art collection to fuel her pda addiction. I think I can get you both into the same treatment plan for a bulk discount, given that neither of you will have any $ left after buying the T|C. :D

saw9000
04-28-2003, 01:41 PM
I agree, handheld-givers are in short supply these days :) I'll admit, the Tungsten C is a tempting offering from Palm, but it doesn't have a soft Graffiti area. In fact, it doesn't have a Graffiti area at all. I've become attached enough to soft Graffiti areas and the extra screen real estate they bring that I don't want to live without one. I like the processor and RAM, though.
Scott

sUnShInE
04-28-2003, 02:27 PM
I was out at Best Buy this weekend (suffer Alex!) and though they didn't have the T|C, they did have the Zire 71. If I was in the market, I think I'd consider this for my next pda.

(Sidebar: Why the heck is it '71'? Were there 70 models before it that we all missed?)

Despite the camera function and the mp3 player, both of which I have always doubted that I would use, I would consider this unit over the T|C. Yes, over the T|C.

It's not only a price point issue for me either. You seem to get a lot of handheld (144Mhz, 16Mb plus external) for your three bills. I read in the Brighthand review (http://www.brighthand.com) that this unit was not upgradable for wireless use. In fact, after noticing both a modem and bluetooth in the Sunday circulars, I have to disagree. According to Palm.com, you can use both. They have a sled modem... something, sadly, my Clie lacks. For some reason I seem to remember seeing an SD modem available for this too for pretty cheap. I'm not seeing it on the Palm website though, so presumably it's not OEM or they're not jazzed about it.

Anyway, as I prefaced in this thread, I'm happy with my T615C, and she seems to be happy with me. I don't think I'm going to upgrade until I find the Barbie Dream PDA. I would take another look at the 71 if I was going to though.

saw9000
04-28-2003, 03:26 PM
If I were going to go for the Zire for $300, then I would probably go for the Tungsten C for $500. Like I said, I really like its specs, save the lack of a (soft) Graffiti area. I must admit, though, having a camera is addictive. The camera on my NX70V has become the feature I never knew I couldn't live without.
Scott

sUnShInE
04-29-2003, 08:29 AM
Interesting. I guess I can see how the camera might come in handy once in a while, but it would definitely *not* be one of the key selling points for this unit. At least not for me.

Reading your graffiti comment again. Many of the gripes about new pda's are often things that are easily surmountable with the plethora of software on the market. Grafitti is no exception with something like Grafitti Anywhere, which I now use and l-o-v-e. It's one of those things that I now say, "How did I ever get along without it?!"

I think that for the crowd that would zero in on the T|C, they'd be more apt to go for a Crackberry and have consistent online usage. If there's an optional (read: small, maybe SD) modem for the C, they need to seriously promote that -- as well as entertaining low cost on-air rates.

gvtexas
04-29-2003, 09:32 AM
I have to agree with sunshine that the camera is not a deal breaker, but might be if I had the chance to have one built in!

All this talk about "the next pda" is causing me to rethink some of my basic premises. As I'm approaching new laptop time and new cell phone time within the next six months, I'm beginning to see how my choices may really impact how I connect while mobile, and how I could integrate the three components of mobility: pda, laptop, cell phone.

- If I get a bluetooth-enabled cell phone, then a bluetooth-enabled pda could really be nice to check email, etc. I see that as my second level of web connectivity...I rate that a high-geek factor!

- If I continue my trend of more time spent on my laptop than desktop (outside the day job!), then the laptop becomes my #1 web connecting device and the new built-in wireless makes a lot of sense, especially with the new processor/wireless/network hardware combined to run on less power.

- If i stay with Sony PDA, then a Sony laptop (or Acer) with memory stick slot could really help move things between the two, eliminating syncing of mobile content (why sync when I could pop the MS out of the pda, into the laptop, click and icon, and everything transfers). And if they're both bluetooth, then don't need to move the MS (although I doubt the speed is anywhere near the direct connection, so I don't know that I'd use that). And for major online sessions away from Starbucks :D the bluetoothed phone/laptop makes sense as well.

I never thought I'd ever consider bluetooth...always thought it was a little esoteric in use...but here it is, a viable alternative to stay connected. Now only if I understand it a little better... :blink:

saw9000
04-29-2003, 09:45 AM
The camera was not one of the key selling points for me on the NX70V when I bought it. However, since then, I have become surprisingly attached to it.
As for the Graffiti area, I wouldn't want to take a device with a thumboard and take up even more of the screen by creating a Graffiti area. Also, at least half of my interest in having a soft Graffiti area lies in the fact that I can use it to display content when I'm not writing.
As for Bluetooth, it's not everything it's cracked up to be, but it's still fairly functional. I use a Bluetooth headset, and the range isn't 30 feet, but it has managed to prevent me from getting tangled up in wires going to the headset.
Scott

sUnShInE
05-01-2003, 07:32 AM
I'm not jazzed about BT either, except for perhaps a cellphone headset...which I'm now considering buying. Although I must say that I'm still surprised they don't make BT headphones for things like iPods.

I don't know that it's so much of a sacrifice using GA. I can't speak for other similar wares, but the expanded grafitti area is integrated as a hack into whatever software you're using. I really like it, and despise those tiny keyboards... but, like everything, I guess it all amounts to personal preference. :)

I couldn't really see the advantage to going "all Sony", until my friends dad got a WEGA tv and a new Clie for Christmas, on top of his Vaio. Now if the MS Pro prices would come into the realm of the possible we might be talkin'!

saw9000
05-01-2003, 10:05 AM
I'm pretty sure I would be willing to use a smart phone if I could use Bluetooth and be assured that the phone functions would not interfere in any way with the use of the handheld. If I'm typing a document and a call comes in, I would want to get a notification of some variety, after which I could press a button on the headset and start a conversation, all the while going back to my document as if the call were not going on.

As for Bluetooth headphones, I agree, I don't know yet why it hasn't come up. I would like to see headphones that double as a a headset and automatically pause the music when a call comes in, and start it back up after the call is over. Now that's integration :)

I agree, keyboard vs. Graffiti is purely a matter of personal preference. However, the licensees must be driving themselves crazy trying to deal with people who are solidly on either side, much like you and I are :) Keyboard users won't buy VG; VG users won't buy keyboard, what's a licensee to do? I would think that two versions of each device wouldn't be plausible.

I'm not sure I would want to go all Sony, but they offer some advantages in their devices. I'm currently using the new CF drivers to run my 1 GB Microdrive, precisely because I'm not interested in the 1 GB MS Pro. I simply refuse to pay $0.64/MB for a 1 GB MS Pro in 2003 after I paid $0.33/MB for a 1 GB Microdrive around Christmas 2001.
Scott

gvtexas
05-01-2003, 10:42 AM
I was suprised when I went looking at cell phones that Bluetooth models are somewhat vaporphones...Sprint has announced an Ericsson model coming in a few months, but otherwise don't have it. Seems like BT has been really sloooowwww to make much headway, yet all the PDA manufacturers seem to want BT-enabled units over wifi untis. All in all, confusing. Can't decide if it's too early to consider BT or too late! Just know that it would be nice to use the cell phone as a modem for either the laptop or PDA as the case warrants, without using a lot of adapters, cabling, etc. Probably can make this happen without BT, but BT *seems* like an easier (cleaner) solution.

saw9000
05-01-2003, 11:05 AM
I agree, Bluetooth handsets are fairly uncommon in the United States. My T68i is beginning to show its age as a high-end handset, and I could easily find myself looking for a new one, but there don't seem to be any really spiffy Bluetooth-compatible options available. In other words, the T68i was enough ahead of its time when I bought it that nothing significantly better has been released in the states yet. I'm thinking that the T616 might cast a long shadow when it gets here. Depending on its reception, it might be my next handset.
Scott

sUnShInE
05-04-2003, 01:16 PM
Yea, I've noticed that some dealers are now giving out $100 BT headsets with appropriate cell phones. Not a bad incentive if you need a new cell.

As far as the conflict between grafitti vs keypad input, I think the smart mfr's will let us opt for our preference. I sorta feel that way about wifi and BT at this point though.

I also agree with the per meg pricing. My brother and I had this convo the other day: Remember the days when it was $1 per meg? Yeouch. I'm not willing to step backwards just to get forward moving devices.

Saud
05-05-2003, 03:37 AM
btw
if you guys use smaller fonts for isilo on clies and plan to move to the new palm os5 .. you should know that isilo supports high density fonts on the new palms..but not hi-res smaller fonts (which disappoints me)

brahamt
06-05-2003, 12:53 PM
Well I thought about this a lot recently, as I ended up buying the NX60 on sale at Compusa for $299.

About 5 months ago, my M505 was starting to act up, and then the dreaded USB sync problem occurred. My friend had gotten like one of the 1st NR70Vs, and he loved it so I went looking. I ended up finding an NR70 at Best Buy for $129 without the software. My friend copied the CD and I was in business.

The problem I had was though I loved the NR70, I had started to load up a bunch of apps and data on it and it began to feel sluggish. The deal came up at Compusa about a week ago and I thought, hmmm, should I?

Here were my issues:

1) Size, though similar in size to the NR70, the NX60 had the little bump out for a CF wireless modem. I ended up deciding this was not a problem as not only was I going to get a wireless card, but a company called ERUWare introduced a driver to but CF memory cards into the slot.

2) OS5. I knew there were some compatibility problems, especially with older apps, but all of the ones I used regularly had been updated so this was no problem.

3) OS5 #2. Memory. This was almost the deal breaker. Depite supposedly having 16M on board, only 11 was available for use. I then discovered Powerrun which let me put all of the memory hogging apps on the memory stick.

The only issue I have, which I did not know about at the time of purchase was the MP3 issue. My NR70 played all of the MP3s I had. When I put the memory stick in the new Clie, some of the tracks refused to play. I found out that the NX60 does not play VBR files nor anything not encoded at 44100. 44100 is not an issue, but most of my files are encoded VBR.

So with the one issue I have, and the benefit of the new platform (MSPro Support, CF Support, Wireless, etc), I'm happy that I got the NX60.

Now about that new NX80 I heard about...

Pride Of Lions
06-12-2003, 11:12 PM
Personally, I'm in love with the T|T form factor and I'd hate to lose it.

My "Barbi--er, my GI JOE-Dream-PDA" has/is:

1) Palm branded. I'm a Mac kinda guy, so PPC is out. I'm not a Sony guy, so...

2) With that new 128MB RAM that they keep heralding.

3) Integrated BT, and WI-FI, and GPS.

4) The T|T form-factor with virtual Graffitti, so that when I wanna read that e-book longwise or watch that widescreen movie, I can, but when I want it short I just collapse the slider.

5) That 1GB SD card they keep heralding. (This just turned into my X-Mas list.)

6) ummm...ummm...and something I'm forgetting, but will remember when I post this.

That's about it.
I think.
Make this, Palm, and I'll be your best friend.
POL9A

Hammer
06-13-2003, 08:36 PM
1.) What's your next pda going to be?
not sure. there needs to be a big improvement over the TT

2.) Do you do any wireless functions now? If so, what? Via Bluetooth or dongle?
I use BT

3.) Do you plan to go wireless in the future? And if so, what for? (ie, email, web surfing, etc)
Already do for email, web, ICQ

4.) How do you think going wireless might change your offline (read: iSilo) habits, if at all?
THis is a separate use for me

5.) Have you even thought about this at all?
yep!

RockerChick
06-13-2003, 10:17 PM
1.) What's your next pda going to be?
So far, it doesn't exist. I've got an NX, and the newest releases from Sony don't do a lot for me . . . *sigh* I could go for the T|C if it didn't have a thumbboard. I REALLY want to get away from that!

2.) Do you do any wireless functions now? If so, what? Via Bluetooth or dongle?Nope. Don't do wireless. But then, I don't like reading my email on my PDA either . . .

3.) Do you plan to go wireless in the future? And if so, what for? (ie, email, web surfing, etc)Nah, probably not. It's just not THAT big a deal . . . and I live in a very small town with NO Starbuck's!

5.) Have you even thought about this at all? ;)Yes, I've thought about it a great deal actually. I just weigh what I need against what I want (I won't even mention what I can afford . . .;))

illustratton
06-19-2003, 10:59 AM
Likely a Sony if:

1) They offer it in a "T" form
2) 320 x 480
3) Virtual Graffiti
4) Better battery life
5) Blutooth or WiFi built in would be nice.
6) under $300 - as long as I'm dreaming...

sUnShInE
06-20-2003, 07:16 AM
Hmmm. One thing that I was thinking about fleetingly the other day was the deal Palm and RIM made.

Would you be happy if your PDA simply had Crackberry-like capabilities? I think I would be tickled. I just wanna get and send email....

elveejay
07-05-2003, 11:06 PM
I have been happy with my Prism. But it seems to be going the way of the 8-track. I am pretty sure I will stay with the Palm OS so, if I had the coin today, I would probably get the Zire 71. It is in the right price range even if I am still not sure I really need or would use the camera, etc.
LVJ

jasondv
09-03-2003, 04:29 AM
With some specs on the rumored new Palms leaking out, this thread just got more interesting. I especially like the specs of the T3 (keeping my fingers crossed hoping that it's true):
- Intel Xscale processor, 400 Mhz
- 64MB RAM
- 320 by 480 screen, transflective (boy, does my T|T's screen look washed out when compared to the T|T2's!)
- Bluetooth
- original T|T form factor

I know that some people hate the slider mechanism and think that it's a bother to have to open it when they need access to the Graffiti area or the silkscreen buttons, but I think it's the perfect form factor for the T3 as it gives you the best of both worlds: a large screen when you need it (e.g., vewing photos, documents, spreadsheets), and a small form factor that is definitely more pocketable than other PDAs with a 320 by 480 screen.

Here in the Philippines, Wi-Fi hotspots are only just beginning to proliferate, so built-in BT is much more useful. We are an SMS-crazy nation (200 million messages sent each day, according to one estimate, but that's probably an overly optimistic estimate), and sending and receiving SMS via a BT phone is one of the most common things that people with a BT-enabled PDA do here.

As for going wireless, I find that checking, reading, and managing e-mail and browsing the Web is not exactly great using a PDA, and only do it once in a while. I'd rather do that stuff on my laptop.

gvtexas
09-03-2003, 07:29 AM
jasondv:

I too am anxious to see the T3, but frankly I hope it's not BT but WIFI (I think BT is already set). I don't see the value in BT, at least here in the states. BT-enabled phones are not that available...WIFI (for me) would be very useful...BT totally unuseful. But, that's just my situation.

I too find Web work with a PDA a somewhat silly exercise, but pulling email and IM would be nice to have.

Even though the T3 appears to be BT-only, have watched with great interest the couple of SD-WIFI cards about to come on the market, albeit for PocketPC at first (SanDisk's SD-WIFI is supposed to come out for PalmOS in the fall). That would solve my issue, but would tag $150-160 on top of the $400+ for the T3. Ouch.

Bluetooth appears more the wishes of developers than the wants of users, at least here in the states.

Cheers,

jasondv
09-03-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by gvtexas
jasondv:

Bluetooth appears more the wishes of developers than the wants of users, at least here in the states.

Cheers,

I know. I, too, am waiting for the Wi-Fi and memory combo SD card, and will weigh the cost of getting that for my current Tungsten or upgrade to the T3 :) Both of them should be coming out within a few weeks of each other.

gadgetguru
09-03-2003, 11:54 AM
Personally, I would like top see what the Tungsten E look like. I used to own a m505 and loved its form-factor, currently the only 'new' PDA in that form factor is the Ipaq 1900 series... There are rumors that the TE is in this same form factor... Also on the lookout for this Tapwave device, the demo video/pictures look great...

sUnShInE
09-03-2003, 11:54 AM
For those that haven't seen these products yet, PIC has sneak peeks:

T|T2 (http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5718)
T|T3 (http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5684)


Btw Clie users, there's also a Japanese company coming out with a Wifi MS next month (forget the name of the co right now), which should be price pointed around $150USD. Only for OS5+ though....

gvtexas
09-03-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by jasondv
I know. I, too, am waiting for the Wi-Fi and memory combo SD card, and will weigh the cost of getting that for my current Tungsten or upgrade to the T3 :) Both of them should be coming out within a few weeks of each other.

I thought the same thing, until I read this blurb in one of the messages at PIC regarding the T3 SD slot:

"I've spoken with the Sandisk folks and the upcoming SD wireless
will NOT support Cisco EAP/LEAP/PEAP authentication..."

...and apparently, per this poster, that rules OUT the T3 from working with the SanDisk SD-WIFI. Not sure how valid this is, so take it with a grain of salt, but if true, would see to dent the sales of the T3 quite a bit from folks like me who might buy it if a WiFi solution were immediately available. (SanDisk is not the only SD-WiFi coming I don't think.)

gvtexas
09-03-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by sUnShInE
Only for OS5+ though....

All I can say is, "it's a conspiracy, man..."

Sigh. Two steps forward, one step back. Seems like you have to upgrade your PDA to take advantage of the newest toys anymore. It's like they PLAN it that way! Oh wait, they did plan it that way.... :(

sUnShInE
09-03-2003, 03:57 PM
Well what sucks is that you need the ARM processor to use OS5+. Remember the good old days when you could upgrade your OS without upgrading your unit? I will assume (she said wistfully) that OS6 will not pose the same sort of hardware limitation.

And yes, we're already talking OS6 kids. Eeek!

gvtexas
09-03-2003, 04:23 PM
With OS6 right around the corner (early '04?) you'd think any new 5.x PDA would have a hard time in the market...but the rush to buy "the latest" is too enticing to some, I guess.

Not to mention the real threat from the PocketLint people...the specs on some of the new devices coming (with both BT and WiFi) are hard to ignore...except for the obnoxious virus that comes factory installed (Windoze...).

jasondv
09-03-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by gvtexas
With OS6 right around the corner (early '04?) ...

Yeah. I jumped onto the OS 5 bandwagon early (got the Tungsten|T less than a month after it was released) and I am thinking that I should really wait for a while and see what the OS 6 devices will be like.

On the other hand, my current PDA already does everything that I want it to do, and the only thing that I really wish for right now is a bigger (320 by 480) and brighter (transflective) screen, which the T3 promises to have.

Choices, choices...

sUnShInE
09-04-2003, 10:51 AM
My guess is that you'll be able to upgrade to OS6 without a problem. The limitation for us lowly OS4x users is that we have ye olde dragonball processors. Real snails comparatively....

My SO wants a new pda now too, so of course I'm "in charge" of this purchase. I'm hesitant to get anything right now with all the pre-holiday releases coming up cuz we all know they'll be in overstock sale by 2/1. Oh how I wish there was a good strategy for buying something decent and affordable while simultaneously avoiding the whining I'll endure! :D

My guess is that my upcoming/future pda lifestyle will be comprised of buying something, upgrading within a year (6 months?), and selling my stuff on eBay. :rolleyes:

Maybe we should start a pda swap/sale section here. (ducking)

St0rmD
09-07-2003, 01:43 PM
I just recently bought a T|T2 and I love it, but I'm already wondering if I should have held out for a T|T3. Still, for a first palm, it rules...very slim, very powerful, a beautiful screen, and bluetooth.

I've also been looking sidelong at the new Tapwave Zodiac that's being announced this month. That is one HOT machine, as an all-purpose Palm, with the addition of hot hot gaming action. I wet my pants when I found out the 128MB version would be the same price (retail, who knows about street) as my beloved 32MB T|T2, and it has 2(!) SD slots.

Bling. Bling.

elveejay
09-07-2003, 07:10 PM
Since my last post, I too have been following the buzz about the T3 and the Zodiac. I am not much of a gamer so the Zodiac might be overkill for me. I've also never used BT or Wi-Fi, so that would be new to me also. I like the price range for both devices though. Unless a device quits on you it is hard to know just when to move to the next thing. Decisions, decisions.

drc54
10-16-2003, 08:56 AM
Last weekend visited the IT mall in Singapore, and to be honest, was the first time I've learnt of T3. Unlike how the M515 was launched, they don't post the price of the T3. So asked around, it's $718 (Singapore dollars), which makes it at the same ballpark, if not cheaper, than the M515 and the original T when it was announced.

So, if history will repeat itself, then expect the price to be real attractive come Christmas time. Why go to Funan IT mall? Well, I was actually looking for the latest PC games for my son, then saw the Logitech folding keyboard going for $89, more the 50% from it's original price. Couldn't resist, bought it. But, it was not as I expected. It's too "bouncy" to get any serious typing done. I was thinking that I could use in while waiting, say in an airport lounge, to type one or two notes. Flipping the keyboard and switching on my Palm is damn quick compare to booting up and booting down if I had to use my laptop.

Anyway, I still think it's money okay (not well) spent. Any experience using this keyboard anyone?

Regards,
Deva

Zire
10-16-2003, 09:00 AM
I'm getting a zire 71.

Alexander Turcic
10-19-2003, 09:28 AM
I am flying to the US next week and am seriously considering buying the T3. But the weak battery capacity and lack of WiFi still make me hesitate.

It will probably be one of those all-of-a-sudden-made-up-my-mind decisions :P