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Nate the great 07-02-2009, 03:30 PM I just got an email form Macmillan with a link to a survey. Most of the questions are about ebooks. I'd really appreciate it if everyone would participate. Hopefully if they get enough of a positive response they'll finally get around to selling ebooks. Here is the link:
http://click.mail.macmillan.com/?qs=944b8a8d2eab1534f914539d75aee4a94783b5dd661e4f 6a24785260f923a098
Bilbo1967 07-02-2009, 03:34 PM Done!
zelda_pinwheel 07-02-2009, 03:34 PM i've replied. i'm pretty curious to know what they have in mind ; a lot of the questions are about getting access to "several chapters" of a major book before it's official publication date, and whether i'd be willing to pay for that. i hope they don't think that selling book samples is a good / the only way to do ebooks...
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 03:36 PM I was just about to post this. :)
zelda_pinwheel 07-02-2009, 03:36 PM you have to get up pretty early in the morning to beat nate the great. ;) and what with the time difference between the two of you you're at a disadvantage. :rolleyes:
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 03:36 PM i've replied. i'm pretty curious to know what they have in mind ; a lot of the questions are about getting access to "several chapters" of a major book before it's official publication date, and whether i'd be willing to pay for that. i hope they don't think that selling book samples is a good / the only way to do ebooks...
I noticed that too and I didn't like the vibe I got from it. There were also questions about registering to be able to read and other annoyances. If those questions are any indication of what they're going to do, they're not doing it right.
desertgrandma 07-02-2009, 03:37 PM I just got an email form Macmillan with a link to a survey. Most of the questions are about ebooks. I'd really appreciate it if everyone would participate. Hopefully if they get enough of a positive response they'll finally get around to selling ebooks. Here is the link:
http://click.mail.macmillan.com/?qs=944b8a8d2eab1534f914539d75aee4a94783b5dd661e4f 6a24785260f923a098
I got the same email.......hopefully, if enough people respond, they'll understand e-book readers aren't just a fad......
Sparrow 07-02-2009, 03:37 PM Done - thanks for the heads-up Nate (and Daffy who would have if Nate hadn't :))
Bilbo1967 07-02-2009, 03:37 PM i've replied. i'm pretty curious to know what they have in mind ; a lot of the questions are about getting access to "several chapters" of a major book before it's official publication date, and whether i'd be willing to pay for that. i hope they don't think that selling book samples is a good / the only way to do ebooks...
Which is why I responded "Not interested" to that question. It then followed up with the question "Would you be more interested in whole books", to which I said "YES".
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 03:39 PM you have to get up pretty early in the morning to beat nate the great. ;) and what with the time difference between the two of you you're at a disadvantage. :rolleyes:
I delayed be cause I was going to post the questions, so I was busy copying and pasting while he was posting. I didn't think about giving everyone the link to the survey. :o
Bilbo1967 07-02-2009, 03:40 PM I noticed that too and I didn't like the vibe I got from it. There were also questions about registering to be able to read and other annoyances. If those questions are any indication of what they're going to do, they're not doing it right.
I didn't get any questions about registering to be able to read. I guess it must be based on your device or answer to other questions.
mklynds 07-02-2009, 03:41 PM I have taken the poll. Hope it helps whoever it is that made it. I would be interested in a subscription service if I got the whole book in ebook format earlier than the paper release.
poohbear_nc 07-02-2009, 03:42 PM Done - let's hope publishers are FINALLY getting the message about ebooks!
No questions about DRM or formats - hmmm. I guess it's just implied by your choice of reader.
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 03:45 PM I didn't get any questions about registering to be able to read. I guess it must be based on your device or answer to other questions.
Maybe my copying and pasting will come in handy. Here are the questions I got (notice some numbers were skipped based on my responses).
1. How many books to do you READ per year?
0 - 5
6 - 10
11 - 15
20+
2. How many books do you BUY per year?
0 - 5
6 - 10
11 - 15
20+
3. Do you ever read books on a computer?
Yes
No
5. Do you own an mobile reading device (e.g., Kindle, Sony Reader, iPhone with Reader Application)?
Yes
No
6. If you own more than one of these devices, which one do you prefer?
Kindle
Sony Reader
iPhone with Reader Application
COOL-ER
Other
7. Please rate your comfort level reading book content via a mobile device:
Very comfortable
Comfortable
Not comfortable
10. Please rate your interest-level in getting books in an electronic format before their
official on-sale date:
Very interested
Interested
Indifferent
Not interested
11. Please rate your interest-level in getting early access to several chapters of major books in an electronic format prior to the official on-sale date:
Very interested
Interested
Indifferent
Not interested
12. Would you be willing to pay for this early access?
Yes
No, but I would be willing to pre-order the book for this access
Not at all
13. Would you be willing to register on the Macmillan site (e.g., give a valid email address and other pertinent personal information) to get access to this content?
Yes
No
14. How much of the book would need to be available pre-release for you to be interested?
25%
50%
100%
15. Would you be willing to register if access included a discount off the purchase of the book once it released?
Yes
No
17. What payment model would you prefer to gain early access to several chapters of these books?
Pay-Per-Title (access to one specific title’s sample chapters offered on the site)
Annual Subscription (access to all sample chapters of major release titles offered on the site)
18. How much of the book would need to be available pre-release for you to be interested?
25%
50%
100%
19. Would you be more interested if you received a discount off the purchase of the once it went on sale?
Yes
No
24. What is your preferred method of book delivery?
Print
Website
RSS feeds
Kindle
Sony Reader
iPhone
Other
25. Are you based in the United States?
Yes
No
26. Select your age group:
12 and under
13 – 18
19 – 30
30 – 40
40 – 50
50 – 65
65+
I prefer not to answer
27. Select your sex:
Male
Female
I prefer not to answer
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 03:46 PM I didn't get any questions about registering to be able to read. I guess it must be based on your device or answer to other questions.
I may have phrased it incorrectly, the question was more about giving out your email to get access to chapters or some such. In any case, I don't give out my email, not for preview chapters, not for much of anything.
EDIT: see Q13 and 15 in Daffy's post (thanks for that Daffy).
atidball 07-02-2009, 03:48 PM i've replied. i'm pretty curious to know what they have in mind ; a lot of the questions are about getting access to "several chapters" of a major book before it's official publication date, and whether i'd be willing to pay for that. i hope they don't think that selling book samples is a good / the only way to do ebooks...
That just made it sound like they are considering Webscriptions to me:)
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 03:53 PM 17. What payment model would you prefer to gain early access to several chapters of these books?
Pay-Per-Title (access to one specific title’s sample chapters offered on the site)
Annual Subscription (access to all sample chapters of major release titles offered on the site)
That right there worries the crap out of me. Pay for samples? Pay an annual subscription to read samples (and then only the major releases). That's not a business model, that's some form of insanity :)
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 03:54 PM 17. What payment model would you prefer to gain early access to several chapters of these books?
Pay-Per-Title (access to one specific title’s sample chapters offered on the site)
Annual Subscription (access to all sample chapters of major release titles offered on the site)
That right there worries the crap out of me. Pay for samples? Pay an annual subscription to read samples (and then only the major releases). That's not a business model, that's some form of insanity :)
I didn't respond to that one. I just moved on. :)
zelda_pinwheel 07-02-2009, 03:55 PM I didn't respond to that one. I just moved on. :)
damned. i didn't think of trying to skip a question. :( too late now.
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 03:57 PM I didn't respond to that one. I just moved on. :)
I don't think I got that question when I answered. Because earlier I answered no to Q12 2. Would you be willing to pay for this early access?
I'm still puzzled why anybody would think you could sell samples of books as the questions implies.
poohbear_nc 07-02-2009, 04:00 PM 17. What payment model would you prefer to gain early access to several chapters of these books?
Pay-Per-Title (access to one specific title’s sample chapters offered on the site)
Annual Subscription (access to all sample chapters of major release titles offered on the site)
That right there worries the crap out of me. Pay for samples? Pay an annual subscription to read samples (and then only the major releases). That's not a business model, that's some form of insanity :)
It sounds to me like someone at Macmillan has read some of the recently published articles on the ebook market and is trying to figure out how to squeeze the maximum cash out of this new market. Pre-planned greed!
Abecedary 07-02-2009, 04:01 PM Keep in mind that this survey will present different questions depending on your answers to previous ones. When I took it, there were only a total of 10 or 11 questions.
junkyardwillie 07-02-2009, 04:14 PM i've replied. i'm pretty curious to know what they have in mind ; a lot of the questions are about getting access to "several chapters" of a major book before it's official publication date, and whether i'd be willing to pay for that. i hope they don't think that selling book samples is a good / the only way to do ebooks...
The reason they are asking about that is probably because of the way the Kindle lets you download chapters of books to preview. I think thats a pretty poor service and I wouldn't pay for that. :idea2:What I would be willing to pay for is some sort of subscription based book service that is like an "ebook library" or ebook version of Netflix, I can download a certain number of books at a time and return them (you don't really ever own ebooks anyway since there is no resale value). But its got to have real content not some no name authors I've never heard of, I mean like NY times best sellers and all.
The only company that I've seen get this right so far is Marvel Comics on their website, I think its like $50/per year and you get access to all of their comic books online and you can read whatever you want. I have a membership there and I think its great. With the amount of content you can read the subscription is almost a no brainer
Owning content is the way of the past. I dont want to own dvds, let someone else keep them somewhere and I can get them when I want it like Netflix. Keeping tons of books is a waste of space for me and I'm in an apartment so I don't have much space to waste. The big issue is trying to get the publishers on board, I'm not exactly sure how Netflix's business model works in terms of payments to the studios but there has to be a way to get that same business model into ebooks. I'm sure it costs 800x more to make a movie than it does to make a book so if the model can work with movies theres no excuse for books not being able to make the cut. When that comes and you can get multiple publishers titles in one database for one annual subscription price then we're talking turkey. :beer: If the publishers had half a brain in their head they would steal the marvel model and start up a subscription service that gives you access to all of their books that are in ebook format, but then again that would be thinking outside the box and they still think that people enjoy the "feel" of books too much to ever use ereaders. :wall:
Daithi 07-02-2009, 04:14 PM If you answer Indifferent to question 11 (the one about buying chapters) you get a lot fewer questions (it skips to question 24), so I think that's their main focus with this survey.
Also, I wasn't sure how to answer question 3., "Do you ever read books on a computer?"
Are they talking about a computer or an ereader here? I assumed they were talking about a computer and answered No, although that's not entirely true.
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 04:18 PM Nevermind, I get it now.
Abecedary 07-02-2009, 04:21 PM Also, I wasn't sure how to answer question 3., "Do you ever read books on a computer?"
Are they talking about a computer or an ereader here? I assumed they were talking about a computer and answered No, although that's not entirely true.
I think they're asking about actually reading on a computer (though they don't distinguish between laptop and desktop). I say this because one of the next questions asks specifically about using a "mobile reading device".
DixieGal 07-02-2009, 04:22 PM Done. I think the question that bothered me the most was how far down the list of age ranges I had to go before clicking. :rolleyes:
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 04:25 PM The reason they are asking about that is probably because of the way the Kindle lets you download chapters of books to preview. I think thats a pretty poor service and I wouldn't pay for that. :idea2:What I would be willing to pay for is some sort of subscription based book service that is like an "ebook library" or ebook version of Netflix, I can download a certain number of books at a time and return them (you don't really ever own ebooks anyway since there is no resale value). But its got to have real content not some no name authors I've never heard of, I mean like NY times best sellers and all.
The only company that I've seen get this right so far is Marvel Comics on their website, I think its like $50/per year and you get access to all of their comic books online and you can read whatever you want. I have a membership there and I think its great. With the amount of content you can read the subscription is almost a no brainer
Owning content is the way of the past. I dont want to own dvds, let someone else keep them somewhere and I can get them when I want it like Netflix. Keeping tons of books is a waste of space for me and I'm in an apartment so I don't have much space to waste. The big issue is trying to get the publishers on board, I'm not exactly sure how Netflix's business model works in terms of payments to the studios but there has to be a way to get that same business model into ebooks. I'm sure it costs 800x more to make a movie than it does to make a book so if the model can work with movies theres no excuse for books not being able to make the cut. When that comes and you can get multiple publishers titles in one database for one annual subscription price then we're talking turkey. :beer: If the publishers had half a brain in their head they would steal the marvel model and start up a subscription service that gives you access to all of their books that are in ebook format, but then again that would be thinking outside the box and they still think that people enjoy the "feel" of books too much to ever use ereaders. :wall:
You make a very good point there about 'not owning' the physical object. A lot of the big pundits on the future of publishing are predicting a fully subscription, cloud based delivery service will be the only sustainable model in the future. The big problem with this is: who do you subscribe to? If every publisher has a model like Marvel $50/year which one do you choose? Will you have to choose the full model to get access to a single title (the publishers would love this one by the way)? Marvel is pretty distinct in its fanbase and has a lot of brand loyalty, but which publishing company can say it has the same? Baen? Well, Baen would be the only one out there, and maybe the big Romance one, Harlequin is it?
All things said and done, if you're charging for samples, you really should GTFO :)
Elfwreck 07-02-2009, 04:28 PM I didn't see questions 12-19 at all; I assume that if you checked "not interested" in sample chapters, they skipped those.
I have zero interest in partial books if the whole version isn't available. If I decide I want to read the book, I want to read it now.
poohbear_nc 07-02-2009, 04:36 PM You make a very good point there about 'not owning' the physical object. A lot of the big pundits on the future of publishing are predicting a fully subscription, cloud based delivery service will be the only sustainable model in the future. The big problem with this is: who do you subscribe to? If every publisher has a model like Marvel $50/year which one do you choose? Will you have to choose the full model to get access to a single title (the publishers would love this one by the way)? Marvel is pretty distinct in its fanbase and has a lot of brand loyalty, but which publishing company can say it has the same? Baen? Well, Baen would be the only one out there, and maybe the big Romance one, Harlequin is it?
All things said and done, if you're charging for samples, you really should GTFO :)
This brought into mind the problem Amazon customers are having getting updated copies of books originally published with formatting flaws (LOTR for example). Amazon states they back up all your purchased books on their servers. I always assumed they would simply have a file of links to book titles per customer, perhaps with customer notes, etc. linked to the PID of their Kindle. Apparently Amazon stores the entire book per customer - since customers that deleted the faulty copy and redownloaded the title still got the same flawed copy. So in this context, you really do "own" the book - or at least are irretrievably linked to one version of it linked to your account.
:chinscratch:
Havndrup 07-02-2009, 04:41 PM Done. Scary questions... But im glad to see that real book-geeks didnt answer yes to the 'do you want the first chapters early' question.
daffy4u 07-02-2009, 04:44 PM This brought into mind the problem Amazon customers are having getting updated copies of books originally published with formatting flaws (LOTR for example). Amazon states they back up all your purchased books on their servers. I always assumed they would simply have a file of links to book titles per customer, perhaps with customer notes, etc. linked to the PID of their Kindle. Apparently Amazon stores the entire book per customer - since customers that deleted the faulty copy and redownloaded the title still got the same flawed copy. So in this context, you really do "own" the book - or at least are irretrievably linked to one version of it linked to your account.
:chinscratch:
I don't think that's a universal issue. When I purchased and downloaded "The Hobbit" on my K1, it had the typo in the title "Tha Hobbit". By the time I re-downloaded it into my K2, the title was corrected (so I now have both versions). I'm sure they got so many complaints about that title and it was such and easy fix, that they corrected it for everyone.
I have also complained about formatting issues and Amazon has had me delete the book and download a corrected version. Maybe it requires making Amazon know that you want a corrected version.
Gideon 07-02-2009, 05:15 PM That was.. odd.
I think Macmillian is hanging out in the stupid department too much. Pay for access to samples? Really? Insane.
You give me samples, I am more likely to get the book (assuming it is good.) Samples in an of themselves have very little value.
If you answer Indifferent to question 11 (the one about buying chapters) you get a lot fewer questions (it skips to question 24), so I think that's their main focus with this survey.
Also, I wasn't sure how to answer question 3., "Do you ever read books on a computer?"
Are they talking about a computer or an ereader here? I assumed they were talking about a computer and answered No, although that's not entirely true.
Okay that explains it I clicked indifferent and missed all of the subscription questions so couldn't understand what folks were talking about.
Sounds like they are trying to do something similar to ShortCovers and sell a book by samples/chapters at a time.
I tried the shortcovers app and promptly deleted the app, the process of reading books online was painful, not to mention you never get the copy of the book online so if you lose network connections you cannot read.
=X=
rlparker 07-02-2009, 06:20 PM I dunnit too.
...I think the question that bothered me the most was how far down the list of age ranges I had to go before clicking. :rolleyes:
:rofl: Me too :(
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Owning content is the way of the past....
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Interesting idea; never thought about it that way.
...All things said and done, if you're charging for samples, you really should GTFO :)
GTFO :blink: Please to explain....
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 06:27 PM GTFO :blink: Please to explain....
GET THE FUCK OUT/OFF :) Used most often to describe someone/thing who is clueless and should go away.
EDIT: here's the urban dictionary entry for it:
An internet acronym short for "get the fuck out".
It is used to express indignation, usually towards stupidity, incompetence, or both.
It can be used in response to something that is unwelcome.
That guy was annoying and didn't know what he was talking about so I told him to GTFO.
Daithi 07-02-2009, 06:37 PM That was.. odd.
I think Macmillian is hanging out in the stupid department too much. Pay for access to samples? Really? Insane.
You give me samples, I am more likely to get the book (assuming it is good.) Samples in an of themselves have very little value.
I agree.
carld 07-02-2009, 07:07 PM That was.. odd.
I think Macmillian is hanging out in the stupid department too much. Pay for access to samples? Really? Insane.
You give me samples, I am more likely to get the book (assuming it is good.) Samples in an of themselves have very little value.
Exactly. I wish they had included a comment section. Oh boy the comments they would have gotten over that.
Robertb 07-02-2009, 07:25 PM Maybe my copying and pasting will come in handy. Here are the questions I got (notice some numbers were skipped based on my responses).
1. How many books to do you READ per year?
0 - 5
6 - 10
11 - 15
20+
2. How many books do you BUY per year?
0 - 5
6 - 10
11 - 15
20+
3. Do you ever read books on a computer?
Yes
No
5. Do you own an mobile reading device (e.g., Kindle, Sony Reader, iPhone with Reader Application)?
Yes
No
6. If you own more than one of these devices, which one do you prefer?
Kindle
Sony Reader
iPhone with Reader Application
COOL-ER
Other
7. Please rate your comfort level reading book content via a mobile device:
Very comfortable
Comfortable
Not comfortable
10. Please rate your interest-level in getting books in an electronic format before their
official on-sale date:
Very interested
Interested
Indifferent
Not interested
11. Please rate your interest-level in getting early access to several chapters of major books in an electronic format prior to the official on-sale date:
Very interested
Interested
Indifferent
Not interested
12. Would you be willing to pay for this early access?
Yes
No, but I would be willing to pre-order the book for this access
Not at all
13. Would you be willing to register on the Macmillan site (e.g., give a valid email address and other pertinent personal information) to get access to this content?
Yes
No
14. How much of the book would need to be available pre-release for you to be interested?
25%
50%
100%
15. Would you be willing to register if access included a discount off the purchase of the book once it released?
Yes
No
17. What payment model would you prefer to gain early access to several chapters of these books?
Pay-Per-Title (access to one specific title’s sample chapters offered on the site)
Annual Subscription (access to all sample chapters of major release titles offered on the site)
18. How much of the book would need to be available pre-release for you to be interested?
25%
50%
100%
19. Would you be more interested if you received a discount off the purchase of the once it went on sale?
Yes
No
24. What is your preferred method of book delivery?
Print
Website
RSS feeds
Kindle
Sony Reader
iPhone
Other
25. Are you based in the United States?
Yes
No
26. Select your age group:
12 and under
13 – 18
19 – 30
30 – 40
40 – 50
50 – 65
65+
I prefer not to answer
27. Select your sex:
Male
Female
I prefer not to answer
Dear Nate:
I cannot believe that they name the COOL-er for God's sake and I have to push "OTHER" for Astak!! Is there no end to the embarassment??
But, I know anything you bring to people's attention is really good. So I did the survey and support it!
Thank you!!
Moejoe 07-02-2009, 07:43 PM Dear Nate:
I cannot believe that they name the COOL-er for God's sake and I have to push "OTHER" for Astak!! Is there no end to the embarassment??
But, I know anything you bring to people's attention is really good. So I did the survey and support it!
Thank you!!
I found that odd too. There's plenty of other ebook readers that have market share and are known, so why pick the COOL-ER that's only just been released? Shoddy is what it is. Whoever put this together did it in a rush, or they were high, or they were so high they were in a rush....something involving high and rush anyway.
That was.. odd.
I think Macmillian is hanging out in the stupid department too much. Pay for access to samples? Really? Insane.
You give me samples, I am more likely to get the book (assuming it is good.) Samples in an of themselves have very little value.
I don't know if this is anything close to movie and movie trailers, I often wish I would have just paid for the trailer and save me a little money and the pain of sitting 2hrs in a bad movie. :)
=X=
Gideon 07-02-2009, 08:31 PM That's what Apple's website is for http://www.apple.com/trailers/ ! You can see trailers for just about anything for free (and often in HD!)
If you have a Mac, this is actually built into Front Row.
kcarscadden 07-02-2009, 09:53 PM It seems to me that the survey was about getting e-samples, but buying the hard-cover or paper book.
I certainly would have liked a comment section, to tell them I really only want e-books.
Daithi 07-02-2009, 11:12 PM Whoever put this together did it in a rush, or they were high, or they were so high they were in a rush....something involving high and rush anyway.
High on a vial of rush?
Ralph Sir Edward 07-02-2009, 11:21 PM The reason they are asking about that is probably because of the way the Kindle lets you download chapters of books to preview. I think thats a pretty poor service and I wouldn't pay for that. :idea2:What I would be willing to pay for is some sort of subscription based book service that is like an "ebook library" or ebook version of Netflix, I can download a certain number of books at a time and return them (you don't really ever own ebooks anyway since there is no resale value). But its got to have real content not some no name authors I've never heard of, I mean like NY times best sellers and all.
The only company that I've seen get this right so far is Marvel Comics on their website, I think its like $50/per year and you get access to all of their comic books online and you can read whatever you want. I have a membership there and I think its great. With the amount of content you can read the subscription is almost a no brainer
Owning content is the way of the past. I dont want to own dvds, let someone else keep them somewhere and I can get them when I want it like Netflix. Keeping tons of books is a waste of space for me and I'm in an apartment so I don't have much space to waste. The big issue is trying to get the publishers on board, I'm not exactly sure how Netflix's business model works in terms of payments to the studios but there has to be a way to get that same business model into ebooks. I'm sure it costs 800x more to make a movie than it does to make a book so if the model can work with movies theres no excuse for books not being able to make the cut. When that comes and you can get multiple publishers titles in one database for one annual subscription price then we're talking turkey. :beer: If the publishers had half a brain in their head they would steal the marvel model and start up a subscription service that gives you access to all of their books that are in ebook format, but then again that would be thinking outside the box and they still think that people enjoy the "feel" of books too much to ever use ereaders. :wall:
I respect your worldview, but there are places where you just don't have cloud access. (Cube farms in big buildings, airplanes, car road trips, ect.) That's when it's nice to have content. E-books are nice because you can load 1000+ books on a chip, and then pick what you want out when you want to. An SD chip doesn't take much space.... (Music is almost as portable. DVD's are another matter, but chips keep getting denser and denser..)
nrapallo 07-02-2009, 11:56 PM That was.. odd.
That's for sure! It had an unsettling effect near the end as I answered those persistent questions about paying to register, paying for samples... :blink:
I think Macmillian is hanging out in the stupid department too much. Pay for access to samples? Really? Insane.
I recall getting questions 22. & 23. (I think) that wanted to know how much of a one-time fee would I be willing to pay for access to samples and then another question, and get this, would I be willing to pay more for a 1/2 book (50%) sample. I originally answered a sample could be 25% of the book. Sheesh, talk about maximizing your revenue stream. A sample is a (free) sample and not additional revenue!!!! Greed, greed, greed...
You give me samples, I am more likely to get the book (assuming it is good.) Samples in an of themselves have very little value.
Ya, and if they offered to double the size of the "sample" in exchange for more cash, would it just not revolt you altogether and make you find another reseller... :smack:
junkyardwillie 07-03-2009, 12:12 AM I may have phrased it incorrectly, the question was more about giving out your email to get access to chapters or some such. In any case, I don't give out my email, not for preview chapters, not for much of anything.
EDIT: see Q13 and 15 in Daffy's post (thanks for that Daffy).
I got the one on would you register to read this content. I forgot the exact question
dreams 07-03-2009, 01:23 AM I tried to take the survey and received the below message..:(
We have reached our threshold number of responses to this survey. It is now closed.
Thank you for your interest and willingness to provide feedback.
columbus 07-03-2009, 05:14 AM They have certainly dropped the ball! I tried to respond to the survey & just got this message (timed as this post)
We have reached our threshold number of responses to this survey. It is now closed.
Thank you for your interest and willingness to provide feedback.
zelda_pinwheel 07-03-2009, 08:38 AM seems pretty odd having a limit on how many replies they are willing to recieve. :chinscratch: maybe they read this thread, realised what a huge mistake they are making, and pulled the survey for now with plans to rethink it and do a new one. :D
Wetdogeared 07-03-2009, 09:26 AM seems pretty odd having a limit on how many replies they are willing to recieve. :chinscratch: maybe they read this thread, realised what a huge mistake they are making, and pulled the survey for now with plans to rethink it and do a new one. :D
I often see polls qualified like the following example:
This poll, conducted among 1,125 respondents, is accurate plus or minus 4 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
These are usually national polls, and the number of respondents to be statistically accurate (usually around 1,200) to between plus or minus 4 percentage points doesn't seem to be very high.
WDE.
JSWolf 07-03-2009, 09:50 AM Could not partake in the survey. It says it's full and now closed. Well done not leaving me a slot to give my answers. :(
3pete 07-03-2009, 10:19 AM I often see polls qualified like the following example:
These are usually national polls, and the number of respondents to be statistically accurate (usually around 1,200) to between plus or minus 4 percentage points doesn't seem to be very high.
WDE.
I suspect you are thinking of surveys based on a random sample. Given the decidedly non-random approach taken for this survey, no such generalization can be made. Think "Family Feud" rather than Gallop polls. :D
Wetdogeared 07-03-2009, 10:22 AM I suspect you are thinking of surveys based on a random sample. Given the decidedly non-random approach taken for this survey, no such generalization can be made. Think "Family Feud" rather than Gallop polls. :D
You're right, they were random samples, usually taken over the telephone.
WDE.
Abecedary 07-03-2009, 10:26 AM I suspect you are thinking of surveys based on a random sample. Given the decidedly non-random approach taken for this survey, no such generalization can be made. Think "Family Feud" rather than Gallop polls. :D
Based on the questions asked, it was most likely supposed to be as close to a random sampling as Macmillan could get from their own mailing list. However, since the link was posted here, the results are now very skewed towards a non-representative sampling of readers. At the same time, though, they can filter the results based on the unique string in the URL. If they're smart about it, they can now have two data sets from which to draw conclusions--one comprised of a fairly random sampling of their mailing list subscribers, and another comprised of e-book enthusiasts.
dickon25 07-03-2009, 11:16 AM I subscribe to their emails but got no notice of this survey. I've just attempted to participate through the link on this thread and got the 'survey is full' message! Not at all sure how representative the results will be!!:rofl::rofl:
Phogg 07-03-2009, 05:03 PM T
Owning content is the way of the past.
And of equal intellectual and moral capitol... owning homes is a thing of the past. owning food is a thing of the past. Owning vehicles is a thing of the past. Owning tools is a thing of the past.
And the corollary that goes with it - Access to any one of those things is not a right. you don't own it.
I'll pass on all of it.
Gadget 07-04-2009, 04:44 AM "We have reached our threshold number of responses to this survey. It is now closed.
Thank you for your interest and willingness to provide feedback."
That's so awesome. Great work everybody!
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