:angry:You guys are in deep do-do with me! You didn't tell me that a new episode was on the other night. Where may I find a re-broadcast?

I'm sorry - the other night? There's not been a new DW episode since the Easter Special, "Planet of the Dead", and that was shown on 11th April.

They just showed "Gridlock" last Saturday, so we're not even up to any new episodes. But they are all new to us!

They just showed "Gridlock" last Saturday, so we're not even up to any new episodes. But they are all new to us!

Heavens - that's years old :).

I guess we've traveled back in time!

we often experience the same with shows that "come our way" .... time portal shunts

I'm so far behind I'll never catch up with Dr. Who, unless I buy the DVD's and have a marathon.

Heavens - that's years old :).

Harry, we (the citizens of the U.S.) will happily trade you (the citizens of the U.K.) one whole season (somewhat old) of Dallas: Who Shot JR (And Who The Hell Cares?)? for one new episode of Doctor Who. Deal? No?

I saw a new (to me) episode on BBC America last Saturday. I think it was called "The New Doctor" or something similar.

For those in the UK, Ireland or US, you could try LocateTV (http://www.locatetv.com)

I saw a new (to me) episode on BBC America last Saturday. I think it was called "The New Doctor" or something similar.

This one?

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/doctor-who/5982677/351x85_standard.gif (http://www.locatetv.com/tv/doctor-who/5982677)

I saw a new (to me) episode on BBC America last Saturday. I think it was called "The New Doctor" or something similar.
I believe this is the episode that DixieGal is asking about. It was good.

Harry, we (the citizens of the U.S.) will happily trade you (the citizens of the U.K.) one whole season (somewhat old) of Dallas: Who Shot JR (And Who The Hell Cares?)? for one new episode of Doctor Who. Deal? No?

What??? You want "Deal or No Deal" as well? Heck, if you'll take that one permanently off our hands so that it never appears on our screens again, we'll let you have episodes of Doctor Who for free....

Just to be fair:

HBO makes some nice series. I'd take some of them in exchange.

What??? You want "Deal or No Deal" as well? Heck, if you'll take that one permanently off our hands so that it never appears on our screens again, we'll let you have episodes of Doctor Who for free....

I'm sorry, HG, but if I could figure out how to remove Deal or No Deal or the like from your screens or ours, I would very happily do so at no cost. Last night I sat down with my wife and she decided she wanted to watch something for a couple of hours: America's Got Talent. You simply cannot imagine.

I'm sorry, HG, but if I could figure out how to remove Deal or No Deal or the like from your screens or ours, I would very happily do so at no cost. Last night I sat down with my wife and she decided she wanted to watch something for a couple of hours: America's Got Talent. You simply cannot imagine.
My mantra is "Must have a plot!" Hubby knows that I'm tolerant of his news addiction, but I'm not going to be happy with:
* reality shows (including the "talent" shows)
* slasher-type horror movies
* more than 2 hours of "educational" programs

Fortunately we agree on most shows, including Dr. Who. It's going to be a bleak year with only 4 new episodes as they transition to the next Doctor.

I'm sorry, HG, but if I could figure out how to remove Deal or No Deal or the like from your screens or ours, I would very happily do so at no cost. Last night I sat down with my wife and she decided she wanted to watch something for a couple of hours: America's Got Talent. You simply cannot imagine.

Funny, my wife just informed me that maybe you can imagine. I hear that you have Britain's Got Talent. Lucky you.

Fortunately we agree on most shows, including Dr. Who. It's going to be a bleak year with only 4 new episodes as they transition to the next Doctor.

Are you referring to David Elevennant?

I hate how by living in the states we have to wait years for the quality programming to make it across the pond.

BTW anyone else hear about Sci-Fi become SyFy, I can't express how stupid I think this is!

I almost missed it myself. Didn't know it was airing until I casually flipped to the channel.

Well if you must see it, and if you hurry, you could probably catch it on YouTube.

Oh and just a heads up, but Planet of the Dead is scheduled to air on July 26th (on BBC America).

This one?

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/doctor-who/5982677/351x85_standard.gif (http://www.locatetv.com/tv/doctor-who/5982677)

That was the "Christmas Special" for us, last Christmas day.

I hate how by living in the states we have to wait years for the quality programming to make it across the pond.


It works both ways. It generally takes years for quality drama from the US to make it here to the UK.

Funny, my wife just informed me that maybe you can imagine. I hear that you have Britain's Got Talent. Lucky you.

Yes unfortunately we do - another reason I am glad I only have a TV for watching DVDs and no way to receive "broadcast" TV.

(Its bad enough watching the internet re-runs on the office TV over lunch - I must remember to nick the remote and hide it)

Are you referring to David Elevennant?

:snicker:

The CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) and the BBC must have some kind of exchange system in place, both being national Corporations.

Our Dr. Who's seem to be pretty well up-to-date as well as the latest round of Marple, which we get well before PBS does.

BBC Canada was a bit dissapointing though. Some great shows but often out of date. I even got into East Enders for a while, due to the lack of any decent local programming in that time slot, and it was 2 years behind the UK.

Having access to CBC, BBC, BBC Canada, HBO and Showtime puts us in a very good situation when it comes to being up-to-date on a lot of TV shows. Then again, who watches TV anymore. :shrug:

It is strange flipping through HBO and seeing a Canadian production that is a few years old and not even showing in Canada any more.

WDE.

It works both ways. It generally takes years for quality drama from the US to make it here to the UK.

We have some? No, really?

We have some? No, really?


erm .... :rofl:

We have some? No, really?

To name a few US series that I've enjoyed very much in recent years:

The West Wing
Lost
The Wire
24
CSI

There are many more, but those stick in my mind particularly.

Firefly
Dark Angel

What I really want to know is when are you going to let us see 'The Legend of the Seeker'..

Ah, okay. Well I certainly hope you enjoy West Wing. I saw a few episodes and bought the first season on DVD but haven't watched them yet. And I've heard The Wire is good. As to the rest, I haven't a clue. Except for Lost. I only wish it had been lost on its way to you.

3 further episodes in the UK before David Tennett is killed off & a new young lad takes over the stewardship of the Doctor

I got too easily lost on Lost .... pity - it started out Sooooo well ....

I got too easily lost on Lost .... pity - it started out Sooooo well ....

I only watched an episode or two but I hated the concept: delude the viewer early on into classifying a character as either good or bad and the spend the rest of the series providing new glimpses of the character that will continually cause you to flip your opinion of him or her. "He's a good guy! No, he's a bad guy! No, he's a good guy! Oh, whatever!"

I only watched an episode or two but I hated the concept: delude the viewer early on into classifying a character as either good or bad and the spend the rest of the series providing new glimpses of the character that will continually cause you to flip your opinion of him or her. "He's a good guy! No, he's a bad guy! No, he's a good guy! Oh, whatever!"

Absolutely agree - as my Grandmother would have put it, "Too clever for it's own good".

I've only seen the two series, and thought it was enthralling. A very, very clever concept, to keep the viewer guessing about what's going on. The first two series were shown here on free terrestrial TV, but it became so popular that it was then bought by Sky, a commercial satellite broadcaster, for the subsequent series, so I've not seen any more. I'll probably wait until it finishes next year, and then buy the whole thing on DVD.

I quite liked Lost in the early days - by series 4 it was getting a bit surreal and that is when it lost me I am afraid

Perhaps I'm being a bit rough on Lost. I probably would have liked it better if I had watched enough to care about any of the characters. Then perhaps I might have been caught up in the continuing guessing game about each of them. Since I didn't care about any of them, I found this process annoying.

This scheme has become more common, I think. My wife watched the first two seasons of Heroes a couple of years ago and the set up was the same. It was entertaining the first year for me (I particularly liked the character Hiro) but this show, too, became too surreal. If it comes your way, you might keep an eye out for it, Harry.

I forgot about "Heroes". I agree with you - it started out promisingly, but then seemed to get rather bogged down. I lost interest when the second series got totally "mangled" by the writers' strike in the US.

Am part way through Heroes Series one on DVD - My brother also has series two. I Like Hiro too lol

The CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) and the BBC must have some kind of exchange system in place, both being national Corporations
WDE.

In the case of doctor who its my understanding that the CBC co produces it, so that means they get to air whenever they want.

We have some? No, really?

A lot of them. E.g.:

The Wire
Sopranos
Buffy
Wonderfalls
Veronica Mars
NCIS
Life

You know Wonderfalls? Wow! That series was good! The main character was played by a Quebecer, Caroline Dhavernas. I was so sad when it got cancelled...

There might not be any new Dr Who here in the UK, but this week we have 5 hours of brade new Torchwood--the Dr Who spin-off for grownups (it says here). This is being shown 1 hour per evening for 5 days. I generally prefer Torchwood to Dr Who--the longer format allows for more character development. Dr Who always seems to degenerate into a lot of running around being chased by the baddies. And I'm not a Tennant fan, I can't stand all that grinning and manic behaviour. My favourite episode--Blink--is one where he hardly appears at all, which is one of the reasons I liked it so much (plus the great writing).

Yes, Torchwood is excellent. Did you listen to the three radio plays of Torchwood last week? All were pretty good, I thought. You can hear them on the "Listen Again" service if you missed them.

Yes, Torchwood is excellent. Did you listen to the three radio plays of Torchwood last week? All were pretty good, I thought. You can hear them on the "Listen Again" service if you missed them.
And here's a case where us US residents are punished! We can't get any of the BBC online content over the Internet. For that matter, I can't view any video from one of my favorite CBC series, Little Mosque on the Prairie. I think I need some in-country proxies to get around those geographical restrictions. After all, lots of folks on MobileRead have figured out how to get around Amazon, Fictionwise, or BooksOnBoard!

What I really want to know is when are you going to let us see 'The Legend of the Seeker'..


You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.

These were my favorite 1 hour shows that had a plot and character development last season.

- Sarah Conner Chronicles (sadly canceled now)
- Chuck (amazed it's not canceled)
- Supernatural (amazed it's not canceled)
- True Blood
- Firefly (okay I watch it about once a year...so it almost counts. Still tragically canceled)
- Stargate Atlantis (canceled)
- Merlin (please don't americanize this show...)
- Lost in Austen (BBC mini-series)


I download all my tv...so I really have to thank the guys in the UK who are encoding the Doctor Who and other BBC dramas. I'm able to recommend tv shows to my mom so when they finally get over here she can watch them.

You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.

ditto. actually I guess I missed it the first time around and am now getting it in re-runs. it strikes me as a storyline and cameraman given free rein at an SCA gathering. really. it does no justice to the guy (forgot his name) that wrote the original story. fantasy is grand, but this stuff... makes Xena look like Shakespeare.

and new on the American Dr. Who/Torchwood front!!!! new (to us episodes of both the weekend of 25 July!:thumbsup:

I download all my tv...so I really have to thank the guys in the UK who are encoding the Doctor Who and other BBC dramas. I'm able to recommend tv shows to my mom so when they finally get over here she can watch them.
Is this a private arrangement? Or do you get them from some public site?

And here's a case where us US residents are punished! We can't get any of the BBC online content over the Internet.

That's because they are funded by the TV licence fee (every household in the UK has to pay a licence fee of about US$250 per year, which funds the BBC), and hence only licence fee payers - people in the UK - are eligible to download them.

Is this a private arrangement? Or do you get them from some public site?

There are usenet newsgroups, bit torrent sites, etc, to which people post BBC TV and Radio programmes. They are, needless to say, illegal.

Yes, Torchwood is excellent. Did you listen to the three radio plays of Torchwood last week? All were pretty good, I thought. You can hear them on the "Listen Again" service if you missed them.

Thanks for the pointer, Harry. I'd completely missed that. And good 'ole BBC makes them available (at least in the UK) as MP3s for download. Perfect!

That's because they are funded by the TV licence fee (every household in the UK has to pay a licence fee of about US$250 per year, which funds the BBC), and hence only licence fee payers - people in the UK - are eligible to download them.

Harry, is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?

I will say this, I have always been a little bummed that I can't watch BBC online content here in Canada. However, I never knew you where paying so much for it. I knew BBC is like our CBC and is publicly funded I just didn't know how much per household it was. I don't even know what it works out to here in Canada for the CBC.

At least we do have BBC Canada as poor a line up as they do run at least it's something. (And 1-2 years behind to boot)

Thanks for the info Harry. And I guess the wife and I have fallen behind on the Dr. Who front. We haven't kept up with it in a few years now. It's hard to stay current with Dr. Who and not break any laws over here. All well.

Harry, is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?

It'a totally separate payment that has to be paid to a company contracted by the BBC to collect the money. If you want satellite or cable you have to pay for them in addition to the TV license.

If you buy a TV you generally have to give your details to the store so that they can inform the licensing people to check up on you.
They also check randomly on any addresses that aren't licensed to make sure you don't own a TV, and they have the power to enter and search premises (I think they need 'grounds to belive there is an unlicensed set on the premises', but lack of a license seems to be suitable grounds), and a generally very rude and obnoxious, refusing to belive there are people out there who could possibly have no wish to own a TV. (I do have a TV, but I have a few friends who are continually harrassed by them).

http://www.marmalade.net/lime/ is an interesting site about it!

is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?



It is actually a separate fee you pay for a license - every TV that is sold by any store must be reported to the licensing authority so that they can see if a license for the sales address. There is a bit more info at the TV Licensing website (http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/index.jsp). They are reasonable though. I called them and explained I had no cable/satellite service, and no other way to receive a broadcast and they said ok - you don't need a license even though you have a tv (mine is hooked up to a dvd player and a media streamer). They did say they were going to send someone around to check my setup but they have not done so yet.

oops, sorry Harry for jumping in there.

Edit: Just read iain_benson's post above. I think the key is to ensure they mark your address as not needing a license in their database. They have, this year, updated their guidence on when you need a TV license and made it a lot clearer : http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp - Using this I explained I sometimes used BBC iPlayer and they said - thats ok it doesn't count unless you watch simultaneous live broadcasts on your computer - I don't so I was ok.

I wonder how they classify computer monitors? Mine also has tv input, but it has not antenna or cableconnection attached.

I wonder how they classify computer monitors? Mine also has tv input, but it has not antenna or cableconnection attached.

If you use a computer to watch on the internet while the program is simultaneously being broadcast you need a license in the UK.

Based on your computer monitor you wouldn't though, unless you watch a broadcast like the BBC live internet stream services. A license covers an address as well, so only one license regardless of the number of TVs and other recieving equipment you have.

You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.

Ok, guess I'm odd or something... I watched the first episiode and loved it. Haven't gotten around to seeing any more though so maybe it got drastically worse?

iain_benson and Pev both of you thanks for the clarification. That whole system seems so "alien" to me. I have always wanted to visit the UK. I even have family over there. It is #1 on my places to visit list. We, the wife and I, always joke about moving there. Just packing up shop and moving to England. Never seriously as of yet but it is my aspiration to go to Cordon Blue in Paris, and then work in France and England before coming home one day to open a restaurant. Big dream though. Who knows what will happen. And wow have I gotten off topic.

Again thanks for the info. Learned something new today.

If you buy a TV you generally have to give your details to the store so that they can inform the licensing people to check up on you.
They also check randomly on any addresses that aren't licensed to make sure you don't own a TV, and they have the power to enter and search premises (I think they need 'grounds to belive there is an unlicensed set on the premises', but lack of a license seems to be suitable grounds), and a generally very rude and obnoxious, refusing to belive there are people out there who could possibly have no wish to own a TV. (I do have a TV, but I have a few friends who are continually harrassed by them).

http://www.marmalade.net/lime/ is an interesting site about it!

In addition to the above, it is an interesting fact that it is a criminal, rather than a civil, offence not to have a TV licence, if you should have one.

I never had any idea about this until a couple of years ago. A girlfriend passed up going shopping, because she needed to send her mum $$$$ to help with the TV tax that year. I thought she was kidding, until I looked it up!

Such a thing would never fly in the US. TV's are vital because of things like storm warnings and such. And important stuff like 24 hr per day coverage of Michael Jackson's funeral.

But DixieGal, the money is just to fund the BBC. We Canadians have our CBC which is publicly funded. But BBC has i think 4 channels as apposed to CBC's 1 channel. Correct me if I'm wrong here all you UK folk. Not to mention that BBC produces a bunch of very good shows as well as some very high budget shows. IE Top Gear. (I am a huge Top Gear Fan)

Thinking about this, is there any option to opt out of BBC content in leu of paying the money?

But DixieGal, the money is just to fund the BBC. We Canadians have our CBC which is publicly funded. But BBC has i think 4 channels as apposed to CBC's 1 channel. Correct me if I'm wrong here all you UK folk. Not to mention that BBC produces a bunch of very good shows as well as some very high budget shows. IE Top Gear. (I am a huge Top Gear Fan)

Thinking about this, is there any option to opt out of BBC content in leu of paying the money?

The fee does go to fund the BBC and I think they have about 10 tv channels now (I did a quick count on the website so I may be a bit out) and obviously all the radio stations (local/National and worldwide). You do not need a license for a radio btw. There is no option to opt out of the fee if you don't watch BBC other than, as I did, to stop watching broadcast TV.

Now the indepentent TV channels over here (mainly ITV and Channel 4 as I don't believe that cable and sat channels are included) are having a really tough time as there revenue is advertising driven and they have suffered as other forms of media have due to the internet and sat/cable channels taking their advertising revenue. There has been talk recently that the independent TV channels should also get some of the license fee. To date that has been rejected.

I never had any idea about this until a couple of years ago. A girlfriend passed up going shopping, because she needed to send her mum $$$$ to help with the TV tax that year. I thought she was kidding, until I looked it up!

Such a thing would never fly in the US. TV's are vital because of things like storm warnings and such. And important stuff like 24 hr per day coverage of Michael Jackson's funeral.

The TV license is a small price to pay for programmes without any commercial breaks. An hour long programme on BBC really is one hour of content, and not 40 minutes plus 20 minutes of filler (ad breaks). I believe the license fee also compares well with subscription services (satellite and cable).

No, you can't "opt out" :). Personally I think it's money very well spent. It funds the BBC TV channels (BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, BBC News Channel, BBC Parliament, plus there are kids channels and things too), innumerable BBC radio stations, and all the BBC web sites. It's what permits the BBC to fund drama and educational programmes that just wouldn't be commercially viable for a broadcaster who has to make a profit.

Note, by the way, that you get a TV licence free when you reach the age of (I think) 70. It's also free if you're blind.

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Ok, guess I'm odd or something... I watched the first episiode and loved it. Haven't gotten around to seeing any more though so maybe it got drastically worse?

I think it'll actually probably get better to be honest. The pilots are normally the worst episode of the series because they are trying to cram too much into it. Having said that....I haven't heard much about this series anywhere so I doubt it got any better. So what you saw in the pilot is probably more of what you'll see later. :)

I was a big fan of the Terry Goodkind books and I just didn't like the direction they took the series in within 30 minutes of the episode. To me they killed off much of the dramatic tension too soon. But if you enjoyed it then I'd say go ahead and keep watching. Because while it may not have been good to me it doesn't mean it's not good to someone else.

Is this a private arrangement? Or do you get them from some public site?


I download via torrents and then I buy the DVDs when they get to American markets.

for American TV I don't do that because as far as I'm concerned the internet is almost like public airwaves. Though with all the stations switching over from analogue to digital I'm not sure how that ruling works anymore. Key item is I'm not paying money for tv cable when they throw in 20 minutes of commercials. And I can't just buy the channels I want to watch.

I would buy from Itunes but they are a day to a week late in offering the episodes and I can't move the episode to any of our other computers in the house. We need to be able to download from our main computers and copy over to the projector computer since the projector computer is not allowed to go online anymore. So yeah torrents end up being easier and fewer commericals.

I would not mind paying a tv tax if it meant no commericals and longer programming.

No, you can't "opt out" :). Personally I think it's money very well spent. It funds the BBC TV channels (BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, BBC News Channel, BBC Parliament, plus there are kids channels and things too), innumerable BBC radio stations, and all the BBC web sites. It's what permits the BBC to fund drama and educational programmes that just wouldn't be commercially viable for a broadcaster who has to make a profit.

I do totally agree with this - it is a small price to pay, but I don't use the any TV services and that's how I have opted out. No TV at all. I thought it would be a bit weird and I would miss it but to be honest I wonder where I ever got the time to watch TV now :D

I think it'll actually probably get better to be honest. The pilots are normally the worst episode of the series because they are trying to cram too much into it. Having said that....I haven't heard much about this series anywhere so I doubt it got any better. So what you saw in the pilot is probably more of what you'll see later. :)

I was a big fan of the Terry Goodkind books and I just didn't like the direction they took the series in within 30 minutes of the episode. To me they killed off much of the dramatic tension too soon. But if you enjoyed it then I'd say go ahead and keep watching. Because while it may not have been good to me it doesn't mean it's not good to someone else.

Ah, I see. I might have hated it too, if I'd read the books first. I'm going to have to FORCE myself to watch "Secret of Moonacre" (the movie based on Elizabeth Goudge's Little White Horse). I started it,and within ten minutes I was literally screaming at the screen about how wrong they were. (Good thing I was home alone....*grin*). However, if I had come into it without reading the book, I probably would have enjoyed it. It's not a bad movie...it just isn't anything like the book!

I do totally agree with this - it is a small price to pay, but I don't use the any TV services and that's how I have opted out. No TV at all. I thought it would be a bit weird and I would miss it but to be honest I wonder where I ever got the time to watch TV now :D

I watch very little TV, but there are a few things I wouldn't like to be without. I can't take the final step that you've taken, but I admire you for doing so!

The TV license is a small price to pay for programmes without any commercial breaks. An hour long programme on BBC really is one hour of content, and not 40 minutes plus 20 minutes of filler (ad breaks). I believe the license fee also compares well with subscription services (satellite and cable).


Sign me up! I'd pay for no commercials too. I had no idea that BBC was commercial free. We pay for CBC here and they still feed us commercial laden product. Is that why BBC has some rather odd start times for programs? Because they don't use filler?

'm going to have to FORCE myself to watch "Secret of Moonacre" (the movie based on Elizabeth Goudge's Little White Horse). I started it,and within ten minutes I was literally screaming at the screen about how wrong they were. (

That's exactly what I was like with Legend of the Seeker!!! :angry: :p

Sign me up! I'd pay for no commercials too. I had no idea that BBC was commercial free. We pay for CBC here and they still feed us commercial laden product. Is that why BBC has some rather odd start times for programs? Because they don't use filler?

Yes. A standard US "one hour" TV programme is typically scheduled in a 50 minute slot on the BBC, because it's generally about 47 or 48 minutes, minus all the commercials.

A one hour show in the US is usually 41-43 minutes actual show time. Now I feel like I am getting ripped off by them not taking my money. This is getting confusing :D:smack:

We do of course have a wide selection of commercial TV channels (both free and subscription-based) in addition to the BBC channels. I wouldn't want anyone to think that our world is "commercial-free" :).

We do of course have a wide selection of commercial TV channels (both free and subscription-based) in addition to the BBC channels. I wouldn't want anyone to think that our world is "commercial-free" :).

Yes, and I hardly ever watch them--I generally only watch BBC channels, and try to record anything on the commercial channels that I am interested in so I can fast forward over the ads.

Also, the license fee funds national radio channels, as well as local radio. I normally listen to BBC Radio 4 every day; this is mainly talk radio (new, current affairs, drama, documentary, comedy) and is another gem. :2thumbsup

Yes, and I hardly ever watch them--I generally only watch BBC channels, and try to record anything on the commercial channels that I am interested in so I can fast forward over the ads.

Also, the license fee funds national radio channels, as well as local radio. I normally listen to BBC Radio 4 every day; this is mainly talk radio (new, current affairs, drama, documentary, comedy) and is another gem. :2thumbsup

OK now I feel guilty because I do listen to Radio 4 in the car and it is a gem :o

OK now I feel guilty because I do listen to Radio 4 in the car and it is a gem :o

Except for The Archers, and the Sunday morning schedule.

Except for The Archers, and the Sunday morning schedule.

I quite like the Archers lol

*wanders off singing dum de dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum

Ah, I see. I might have hated it too, if I'd read the books first. I'm going to have to FORCE myself to watch "Secret of Moonacre" (the movie based on Elizabeth Goudge's Little White Horse). I started it,and within ten minutes I was literally screaming at the screen about how wrong they were. (Good thing I was home alone....*grin*). However, if I had come into it without reading the book, I probably would have enjoyed it. It's not a bad movie...it just isn't anything like the book!

I really do have to watch the movie/tv show first before reading the book. I can only think of a few exceptions where I enjoyed the movie and the book about equally and that was The Last Unicorn, the Lord of the Rings, and Silver Bullet,which was based on a short story by Stephen King. I love True Blood and Dexter but I haven't read the books so I have no clue how much they've changed.

I have my own vision for who Richard and Khalan and the TV show isn't even close to matching it.

When I watch Harry Potter I still feel like the actors they picked don't really fit the characters I see in my head.