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ahi
06-11-2009, 01:28 PM
Is there an established tool/way to decrypt DRM BBeB files (e.g.: like the ones sold by the Sony Store) so they can be converted by the standard LRF tools?

- Ahi

HarryT
06-11-2009, 01:31 PM
No, there are no existing DRM removal tools for LRX files.

ahi
06-11-2009, 02:15 PM
No, there are no existing DRM removal tools for LRX files.

So LRX is impossible to convert then. Am I right? Or have I overlooked something?

- Ahi

pdurrant
06-11-2009, 03:04 PM
There's no sensible way at the moment to convert .LRX files to anything else.

I doubt it's because the protection is intrinsically stronger than Mobipocket DRM or Adobe ePUB DRM, but no-one's published a script yet.

You're not overlooking anything.

So LRX is impossible to convert then. Am I right? Or have I overlooked something?

- Ahi

Lilly
06-12-2009, 01:31 AM
There's no sensible way at the moment to convert .LRX files to anything else.

I doubt it's because the protection is intrinsically stronger than Mobipocket DRM or Adobe ePUB DRM, but no-one's published a script yet.

You're not overlooking anything.

I will be happy when that happens. I use to buy 100% of all my books from Sony before I knew better, now I buy 0%. I now only buy Lit, Mobi, and Amazon AZW. I will return to the Sony bookstore when I'm able to liberate LRX books.

ahi
06-12-2009, 02:37 PM
I will be happy when that happens. I use to buy 100% of all my books from Sony before I knew better, now I buy 0%. I now only buy Lit, Mobi, and Amazon AZW. I will return to the Sony bookstore when I'm able to liberate LRX books.

Would be funny if the Sony Store's eBook sales shot up like hell once their DRM is broken. :D

- Ahi

Valloric
06-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Would be funny if the Sony Store's eBook sales shot up like hell once their DRM is broken. :D

I heard this actually happened with epub books.

bassoprofundo
06-16-2009, 01:53 PM
I will be happy when that happens. I use to buy 100% of all my books from Sony before I knew better, now I buy 0%. I now only buy Lit, Mobi, and Amazon AZW. I will return to the Sony bookstore when I'm able to liberate LRX books.

I'm in the same boat. I'm really hesitant to keep buying from Sony without the possiblity of "freeing" the books if their store ever goes under (like their music store did). I have no problem paying for my material, but I don't want to risk it being "marooned" in the future.

MaruRey
06-21-2009, 07:12 PM
I am new to the EReader. My sister and I both bought one. I bought the Sony PRS-505 and she bought the Kindle. Is there any way to change the formats so that we can share the books with each other on our respective readers?

JSWolf
06-21-2009, 08:00 PM
I am new to the EReader. My sister and I both bought one. I bought the Sony PRS-505 and she bought the Kindle. Is there any way to change the formats so that we can share the books with each other on our respective readers?
If you know what you are doing, you can liberate the DRM from AZW files which then are standard Mobipocket eBooks. You can then convert to ePub or LRF and enjoy on your 505.

Elfwreck
06-21-2009, 09:34 PM
Ebooks from Amazon in the Kindle format (AZW) can have their DRM removed, and then be converted to ePub or LRF that the Sony Reader can use.

Books bought from the Sony store can't be converted to any other format.

Books acquired from *other* sources online--like the free ones here at Mobileread, or bought from Fictionwise.com, or BooksOnBoard.com, can be either downloaded in different types for the different ebook readers, or converted from one type to another with the right kind of software. (What kind depends on the original ebook format, and what DRM, if any.) There are listings of ebook stores (http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_stores) and free ebook sites (http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Free_eBooks) in the wiki; you can get ebooks from a lot more places than Amazon and Sony.

The Sony will read Adobe Digital Editions ebooks in either ePub or PDF, and the LRF format. The Kindle will read AZW, and Mobi formats, although you'd have to take some steps to get DRM'd .mobi or .prc books from other sites, and you can send PDF (and maybe ePub) books to Amazon to have them converted. Neither ebook reader can use .LIT books, but they can be converted into formats that either could use.

Boxdoc
06-22-2009, 04:50 PM
I don't even go to the Sony Store anymore because I won't buy anything that has .lrx format. Crack the DRM, I will become a customer again.

Lilly
06-23-2009, 08:34 PM
I don't even go to the Sony Store anymore because I won't buy anything that has .lrx format. Crack the DRM, I will become a customer again.

Same here!

=X=
06-24-2009, 12:28 AM
Same here!

Not me its easy to convert LIT/MOB/ePUB to any format without losing the original layout. But even if LRX is sold without DRM there is no easy way to shift the content. Just as bad as buying a PDF file without the portability of a PDF file.

For that reason I will always pefere LIT/MOBI/ePUB. The only way I will be a sony customer is if they start selling ePUB
=X=

Elsi
06-24-2009, 12:40 AM
Not me its easy to convert LIT/MOB/ePUB to any format without losing the original layout. But even if LRX is sold without DRM there is no easy way to shift the content. Just as bad as buying a PDF file without the portability of a PDF file.

For that reason I will always pefere LIT/MOBI/ePUB. The only way I will be a sony customer is if they start selling ePUB
=X=
I'm assuming that if the DRM is cracked, someone will also offer a format-shifting program as well. Given that Calibre reads the .lrf file format well enough to display it, I'd think it wouldn't be a *big* stretch to deconstruct it

Lilly
06-24-2009, 04:21 AM
Not me its easy to convert LIT/MOB/ePUB to any format without losing the original layout. But even if LRX is sold without DRM there is no easy way to shift the content. Just as bad as buying a PDF file without the portability of a PDF file.

For that reason I will always pefere LIT/MOBI/ePUB. The only way I will be a sony customer is if they start selling ePUB
=X=

I was assuming non DRM LRX is really LRF like AZW is really Mobi. So if someone is able to crack the DRM, I thought I would get an LRF file.:chinscratch:

=X=
06-24-2009, 11:06 AM
I'm assuming that if the DRM is cracked, someone will also offer a format-shifting program as well. Given that Calibre reads the .lrf file format well enough to display it, I'd think it wouldn't be a *big* stretch to deconstruct it

I think it's harder than you think. There are already format shifting programs that exist. Calibre has some and then there is also LRFTools. But these don't do a very good job shifting the format.

I don't know maybe your right, it's been a while since I looked at lrf2lrs so maybe taking lrs to html is not so difficult.

I guess the real point I'm questioning is there is already a demand for LRF to html/MOBI/ePUB, there are many LRF exclusive formats here on MobileRead. Yet there are no good tools to shift the format. LRFTools does a decent job but it loses much of the formatting in the process

=X=

=X=
06-24-2009, 11:10 AM
I was assuming non DRM LRX is really LRF like AZW is really Mobi. So if someone is able to crack the DRM, I thought I would get an LRF file.:chinscratch:

Yes Lilly you are correct, but my point was there are good tools to convert MOBI/ePUB/LIT to any format MOBI/ePUB/LIT/LRF/PDB/IMP with no more effort than it takes to run the conversion tool. And all the formatting will be maintained.

With LRF there are no good conversion tools. If you will only ever read LRF files that is okay but if you plan to read it on a MOBI device or ePUB device much of the formatting will be lost.

=X=

Lilly
06-24-2009, 01:36 PM
Yes Lilly you are correct, but my point was there are good tools to convert MOBI/ePUB/LIT to any format MOBI/ePUB/LIT/LRF/PDB/IMP with no more effort than it takes to run the conversion tool. And all the formatting will be maintained.

With LRF there are no good conversion tools. If you will only ever read LRF files that is okay but if you plan to read it on a MOBI device or ePUB device much of the formatting will be lost.

=X=


Thanks, that's good to know. Come to think of it, I've converted other sources to LRF but never vice versa.

Lilly
12-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I will be happy when that happens. I use to buy 100% of all my books from Sony before I knew better, now I buy 0%. I now only buy Lit, Mobi, and Amazon AZW. I will return to the Sony bookstore when I'm able to liberate LRX books.

Well Sony just might get me back after all. We'll know after tomorrow! I have about 200 books in LRX, so I can re-download them in ePub without buying anything new and see if they can be liberated. If so, Sony will get me back after not shopping with them since October of 2008!:)