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Laurens
05-25-2005, 11:09 AM
Nokia unveils Linux-based web device without phone (http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2005/05/nokia_unveils_l.html) (PalmAddict)

This looks sweet! :)

The new device, dubbed Nokia 770, has a four inch horizontal touch screen that can display normal Internet pages. It will sell for $350 excluding VAT or 350 euros including VAT..."We're launching a completely new product category," said Janne Jormalainen, Nokia's vice president for convergence products at its multimedia devices division.
Update:
Product page: Nokia 770 internet tablet (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,1522,,00.html?orig=/770) - be sure to check out the specs. (800x480 display!)
Developer site: maemo.org (http://www.maemo.org/)

Update 2:
Hands-on preview: MobileBurn (http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=1381)

Alexander Turcic
05-25-2005, 11:18 AM
First PalmOne, and now Nokia introducing a "new" product category. I wonder how those analyst geniuses from Gartner are going to deal with this.

Laurens
05-25-2005, 11:36 AM
Be sure to check out more details at Yahoo News (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&e=1&u=/nm/20050525/tc_nm/tech_nokia_linux_dc):

The product will run entirely on open source software, including a standard Linux operating system also used in desktop computers, marking more unchartered waters for Nokia. "Using standard desktop Linux means innovation is happening faster (than in Linux versions for small devices). We will be very fast in implementing this innovation," Jormalainen said.
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Nokia will also launch and support an open source community Web Site, encouraging software developers to hack into the device and improve the product.

I'm really excited about this development, actually more than I was when i first heard about the LifeDrive. The fact that Nokia is using Linux (not Symbian) is especially noteworthy. They do have the clout and capital to make this device a success.

Colin Dunstan
05-25-2005, 11:51 AM
Wonderful news! Embedded Linux means that a healthy collaborative community can participate in making the operation system of the Nokia device more advanced, faster, and more stable. With the complete project source code being available, the lifecycle stability of the entire project is enhanced. Have you ever seen what Linux gurus make of previously closed-source systems? Look at Microsoft's X-box. Unmodded all you have is a gaming console. But modded, you can run applications from the Linux community, such as Media Player Center, which make the device 10x more valuable.

Laurens
05-25-2005, 11:53 AM
Product page: Nokia 770 internet tablet (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,1522,,00.html?orig=/770)

Be sure to check out the specs. (800x480 display!)

Alexander Turcic
05-25-2005, 11:57 AM
WLAN: 802.11b/g *grin*

Laurens
05-25-2005, 12:25 PM
The developer's site is here: maemo.org (http://www.maemo.org/)

gadgetguru
05-25-2005, 12:47 PM
Now if PalmSource could get Palm OS on that Linux, wouldn't that be great. Heck, if it had a harddrive, it might have put PalmOne's Lifedrive back to the drawing board...

It's just a matter of time when Nokia add PIM application to that unit and turn that into a true PDA. So now we had Palm, Windows CE-Mobile, and Embedded Linux-Nokia Edition...

Wonder if that embedded Linux will be Opensourced... Linux is, but whatever Nokia tacked on to that which isn't part of the OS?

Nokia just might have stolen alot of Lifedrive's thunder...

gadgetguru
05-25-2005, 12:53 PM
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Pride Of Lions
05-25-2005, 12:58 PM
This thing looks very cool! I agree about the hard drive for more internal storage and maybe a normal sized SD slot, but overall it's the perfect wireless PDA that everyone's been asking for.

I, too, believe that Nokia is a big enough vendor that this flavor of Linux will attract enough evelopers to come up with the absolute best app's. It'd be great if I could sync it with my Mac, but I'm sure that there are developers that will make the connectivity real (hacker.)

I especially like the news about next year's model with the VOIP and the IM. It doesn't look too gamer friendly, so maybe it doesn't replace my Z2, and as much as I'd loathe to carry another device, this one would be it if I were to.

Get off your duffs, Palm companies. The competition is heating up.
POL9A

P.S. I wonder how long they've been working on this device. It does seem that it's been announced at this time to take away from the LifeDrive, but it's time that Palm Co.'s see that other companies are in the game as well.
POL9A

Laurens
05-25-2005, 01:26 PM
It does have a relatively short battery life, only 3 hours. This makes it less than ideal for e-book reading.

Traecer Prime
05-25-2005, 01:59 PM
I have to tell you, this looks sw33t. I'm not sure it could replace my Tungsten T3's PIMs (which isn't the 770's focus anyway), but if I was in the market for a media player/LifeDrive-class device, I'd have to seriously consider it. (It handily beats the LifeDrive on specs; question is, will it live up to the specs?)

There's been rumors that Nokia has been funding the Mozilla Foundations's Minimo project; could the 770 be the reason why?

Colin Dunstan
05-25-2005, 02:57 PM
There's been rumors that Nokia has been funding the Mozilla Foundations's Minimo project; could the 770 be the reason why?
Absolutely! It is not the first time that Nokia has been funding open-source projects. I remember when Nokia worked hand in hand with the open source community on developing a DVB API (LinuxTV (http://www.linuxtv.org/)), a subsystem for digital television (DVB, DTV) receivers, Linux DVD players, and tools to stream audio and video to the net.

Who would have thought that Nokia could become PalmSource's most ferocious competitor ;)

Alexander Turcic
05-25-2005, 02:58 PM
The developer's site is here: maemo.org (http://www.maemo.org/)
Thanks I was looking for this link. Did you have a look at the screenshots (http://www.maemo.org/screenshots.html)? Looks tasty.

TadW
05-25-2005, 03:12 PM
Funny other companies let leak out so much information before the official product announcement (like PalmOne and its LifeDrive), while Nokia silently released this killer device!!

Alexander Turcic
05-25-2005, 03:37 PM
WSJ picked up the story (http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111701831205942787,00.html?mod=rss_whats_news _technology) and reports that analysts aren't that excited about Nokia's latest attempt to conquer the mobile device market:

But analysts say the device is unlikely to sell in big volumes. "It's very niche," said Neil Mawston, a U.K.-based analyst with research firm Strategy Analytics. "I am struggling to see why consumers wouldn't just use their laptop or desktop to go online in the home."

Ben Wood, a U.K.-based analyst with research firm Gartner Inc., said it is surprising that Nokia hasn't adapted the device to make voice calls over the Internet using software from Skype Technologies SA of London or one of its rivals. "Perhaps they were reluctant to upset some of their existing customers," Mr. Wood said, referring to the cellphone service providers.
The newspaper also quotes Mr. Jormalainen, a Nokia vice president saying that his company chose to use Linux desktop system because it has widespread support among software developers. <-- good call!

Alexander Turcic
05-26-2005, 09:57 AM
MobileBurn has a first hands-on review of the Nokia 770 with nice photos:

http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=1381

Looks smaller than thought... which is of course great for mobility!

Francesco
05-26-2005, 12:16 PM
Yeah, next step must be develop PIM apps (and iSilo!)...
I want it! I want it!

Bob Russell
05-26-2005, 12:51 PM
Check out the info about Nokia's role
Role of Nokia in maemo.org

The Maemo development platform and this community website is contributed and operated by Nokia.

The Nokia 770 Internet Tablet is the first product from Nokia, that is compatible with maemo. Nokia aims to use maemo as a development platform in subsequent products in this category as well. As maemo is fully open source, it means a whole new degree of openness for developers using Nokia products.

With maemo Nokia aims to encourage others to adopt, use and contribute technologies for handheld products and applications. This will result in a feature rich, mature and well-supported software base that could evolve as a de-facto standard for Linux handhelds via the open source process.

During the creation of the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet, Nokia has been already working with many open source projects and initiatives, contributing and adopting upcoming open standards.

For additional information about Nokia's contributions to open source project, please visit the Nokia contributions page.

For the time being, Nokia controls the development of maemo to keep it aligned with its product development. This may mean in practice some limitations in accepting contributions to the package repository. However, we are open to suggestions to improve opportunities for involvement.

gadgetguru
05-26-2005, 02:52 PM
Battery life will probably be a non-issue as with all Nokias the battery should be user repalceable, so just pop-in a spare and you'll be okay.

As to not selling big volumes, this will be a bigger hit than the Ngage, where Nokia spend a considerable sum too. And with Wifi use booming, many casual users will prefer bringing these to their local Starbucks than lugging along a laptop.

Sure its not phone volumes but could boost the PDA current 10 million per year volume. And who knows, when VOIP become more widespread, Nokia will be better positioned there than any other hardware makers...

I'll get this one over the Lifedrive.... $350 for a 800x600 pixel screen device look sweet. Only Nokia could price it that way, thanks to their big size and volume orders. I doubt PalmOne could produce a comparable product for that price.

Colin Dunstan
05-27-2005, 09:53 AM
The guy in charge for Nokia's open-source developments has some slideshows introducing the Nokia 770 and explaining why open-source and Linux:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/article058/index.html