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brudigia
11-30-2008, 02:21 PM
Hi,
is there a place where the capabilities of the firmware wrt ebooks metadata are listed ?
What I would like to know is, for example, where the directory software (??) gets its data for html and pdf (cover pic, author, title etc.).
I know there is a file .t2b attached to the original file and a .dat for pdf.
Where can I find this kind of information ? The Booken site or some other threads ?
What I would like to do is to have an omogenous display of my ebooks, whatever the format, I know how to mod the .prc/.mobi, but I don't understand what can be done with the others (.pdf in particular, the others can simply be converted to .prc)
Thanks in advance
Bruno

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Badandy
12-21-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm sorry I don't know about your question, but my firmware is 820. Idk if this is new (I just received it yesterday) but I thought I'd let you guys know.

Pulp
12-21-2008, 05:28 PM
If you want to have some fancy thumbnail on your Cybook you should have a look at ashalan's great CyThumbCreator (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=129623&postcount=3)!

pdurrant
12-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Thanks for that. The current firmware available for older machines is 796. 802 was the previously newest firmware I'd heard about.

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Cybook_Gen3_Tips_and_Troubleshooting#Firmware_Vers ions

Hopefully we'll all get a significant update early in the new year.

Paul

I'm sorry I don't know about your question, but my firmware is 820. Idk if this is new (I just received it yesterday) but I thought I'd let you guys know.

DDHarriman
12-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Hi Badandy

Are you shure your firmware is 820?

Badandy
12-21-2008, 07:30 PM
I just double checked. Version 1.2 Build 820. If there is anything you guys want me to check I'll gladly do it.

There are no page numbers yet for anyone who was wondering...

JSWolf
12-22-2008, 02:47 AM
There never will be working page numbers unless Mobipocket fixes that bug. So don't hold your breath for working page numbers with any Mobipocket reader.

DDHarriman
12-22-2008, 06:18 AM
Hum it looks to be a jump since the last one known 802.

Probably what you have got is minor bugs/increment of speed and stability in your version, but… any ePub ability of reading and or PDF reflow?...
As I say, probably not, but one never knows…

tompe
12-22-2008, 09:56 AM
There never will be working page numbers unless Mobipocket fixes that bug. So don't hold your breath for working page numbers with any Mobipocket reader.

We will be happy if the page numbers are displayed. Inaccurate numbera are much better than no numbers at all.

FBReader have working page numbers and I see no difficulty for Bookeen in implementing such working page numbers.

Badandy
12-23-2008, 03:28 AM
We will be happy if the page numbers are displayed. Inaccurate numbera are much better than no numbers at all.


Having been reading for the past full day I have not missed page numbers one bit. The progress bar seems far better an indicator of how far you are than inaccurate and ever-changing page numbers.

tompe
12-23-2008, 07:41 AM
Having been reading for the past full day I have not missed page numbers one bit. The progress bar seems far better an indicator of how far you are than inaccurate and ever-changing page numbers.

Well, it is not an indicator att all of how far you are since you do not know the length of the book. Also especially for short stories in html format you get an offset (you do not start reading at 0 progressbar) so then it does not work at all accurately (page numbers would have worked better in that case).

Maybe just displaying the thing they use to measure how long the progress bar is would be a simple solution.

Pulp
12-23-2008, 01:52 PM
According to bookeen pagenumbers are planned on the "goto-page"-dialog with the next update, if you really want to know, you can then alway check on that dialog :)

ErwinOtten
12-23-2008, 03:07 PM
According to bookeen pagenumbers are planned on the "goto-page"-dialog with the next update, if you really want to know, you can then alway check on that dialog :)

Not quite sure what you mean.....(or are you just being.........ahum.... a little bit sarcastic... :rolleyes: )........ There are already page numbers on the go-to-page dialog..... If you want to know how many pages the book has (approximately), the go-to-page dialog is the only place where you can see that. If they just would put that number on the status bar also, the whole page number-question would be so much better handled.

Jellby
12-23-2008, 03:45 PM
There are already page numbers on the go-to-page dialog...

There's only how many pages the Cybook thinks the book has. What's missing is, at least, which page the Cybook thinks it is at.

Pulp
12-23-2008, 04:36 PM
No, no sarcasm :) - the idea was to display the current pagenumber together with the total so that you can see where you currently are - and bookeen wanted to add that.

ErwinOtten
12-23-2008, 04:44 PM
No, no sarcasm :) - the idea was to display the current pagenumber together with the total so that you can see where you currently are - and bookeen wanted to add that.

I would prefer it if Bookeen would put it in a more accessible place instead of having to go to the go-to-page-box.......

Pulp
12-23-2008, 05:06 PM
Well, I can (and I know I'm almost alone with it) see why they prefer to have the bar instead of the pagenumbers - as the bar represents a percentage-value and therefore really is independent from fontsizes it's the only thing close to an accurate position in your book you can get. I do though understand why people want the pagenumbers nontheless.

The only time I miss it is when I do an update (like correcting typos) while in the middle of a book and I have to try & error to find again where I was.

tompe
12-23-2008, 05:40 PM
Well, I can (and I know I'm almost alone with it) see why they prefer to have the bar instead of the pagenumbers - as the bar represents a percentage-value and therefore really is independent from fontsizes it's the only thing close to an accurate position in your book you can get. I do though understand why people want the pagenumbers nontheless.


You can parse the html code and get a more accurate progress bar. Now they count header text for example which lead to the inaccurate progress bar for short html files with large headers.

I think what most people want to have is some number. It do not have to be page number. Now it is really very hard to do things like reading 1/10 of the book. And some people like to be able to do these kind of things.

Jellby
12-24-2008, 04:45 AM
Well, I can (and I know I'm almost alone with it) see why they prefer to have the bar instead of the pagenumbers

They could have both, a bar and a pair of numbers "42/327", even if the numbers are not real page numbers, but just estimated page numbers.

Now, the problem is what to do when the estimated page numbers are not accurate. Say the estimated page number is 327 but the real page number (the number of pages you have to skip to reach the end) is 350. I'd have no problem with the current "page number" not changing after pressing the "next page" button, so I would have two screens showing "page 42". That's certainly better than increasing the page number for every turn and enventually reaching page 330 of 327 :eek:

Ortep
12-24-2008, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=Pulp;312624]Well, I can (and I know I'm almost alone with it) see why they prefer to have the bar instead of the pagenumbers - as the bar represents a percentage-value and therefore really is independent from fontsizes it's the only thing close to an accurate position in your book you can get. [QUOTE]

You're not alone :)

Page numbers are something from the past. You know..when we had pbooks

HarryT
12-25-2008, 06:44 AM
You're not alone :)

Page numbers are something from the past. You know..when we had pbooks

I tend to agree with you, but an indication of the total length of the book would be useful information. One can obtain the total number of pages from the "Goto Page xxx" dialog, but it would be useful if it were to be also displayed at the end of the progress bar.

ErwinOtten
12-27-2008, 05:47 PM
I tend to agree with you, but an indication of the total length of the book would be useful information. One can obtain the total number of pages from the "Goto Page xxx" dialog, but it would be useful if it were to be also displayed at the end of the progress bar.

hear hear........ ;) As usual I agree with Harry fully

ProfJulie
12-28-2008, 07:31 PM
This page number debate has gone on and on. I'll admit, changing over from paper books to electronic books required some adjustments and I missed my page numbers, but now, after a year of reading on the Cybook, I can honestly say I don't miss page numbers at all. The graphical bar on the bottom on the page is good enough for me.

arc
02-18-2009, 04:55 AM
I have used Mobi on Palm and Win CE, and have seen both progress bar and page number. Page number have always been available for the last 10 years. Cybook may be newish, but mobi has been around for many years.

If the cybook re sets, or for some reason you lose your place, have you tried to find your place again using the progress bar. Fat chance. You can get a lot closer with page numbers.

I tend to lose my place where I have not left a book mark. My first book reader was a WinCE device back in early 2000.

There were many software readers at the time, but from day one, I liked mobi, but even then mobi were slow to respond to customers.

Compaq Aero, Palm 105, Sony Clie, Toshiba e400 and last but not least a zodiac. Now my cybook and treo phone.

JSWolf
02-18-2009, 05:11 AM
I have used Mobi on Palm and Win CE, and have seen both progress bar and page number. Page number have always been available for the last 10 years. Cybook may be newish, but mobi has been around for many years.

If the cybook re sets, or for some reason you lose your place, have you tried to find your place again using the progress bar. Fat chance. You can get a lot closer with page numbers.

I tend to lose my place where I have not left a book mark. My first book reader was a WinCE device back in early 2000.

There were many software readers at the time, but from day one, I liked mobi, but even then mobi were slow to respond to customers.

Compaq Aero, Palm 105, Sony Clie, Toshiba e400 and last but not least a zodiac. Now my cybook and treo phone.
Yes, Mobipocket does sort of have page numbers. But the page numbers are buggy. Mobipocket has never bothered to fix this. All versions have the same page number bug and seems like they always will. You can use the goto page feature on the Gen3, but there is no grantee that the page you end up at is the page you went to last time you tried to go to that same page number. This is not Bookeen's fault. The fault lies with Mobipocket.

tompe
02-18-2009, 06:57 AM
Yes, Mobipocket does sort of have page numbers. But the page numbers are buggy. Mobipocket has never bothered to fix this. All versions have the same page number bug and seems like they always will. You can use the goto page feature on the Gen3, but there is no grantee that the page you end up at is the page you went to last time you tried to go to that same page number. This is not Bookeen's fault. The fault lies with Mobipocket.

This is still a property of the format and that they want to have page number and not a bug in the program.

The point here was that even if it is not exact it is much easier to use the inexact page number to find were you where in the book then using the progress bar.

bwaldron
02-18-2009, 10:42 AM
The point here was that even if it is not exact it is much easier to use the inexact page number to find were you where in the book then using the progress bar.

Given the problems with inconsistent numbering, I simply don't find this true with Mobipocket software on other devices.

The Kindle's "location" system does work for this purpose, though.

tompe
02-18-2009, 10:42 AM
Given the problems with inconsistent numbering, I simply don't find this true with Mobipocket software on other devices.

The Kindle's "location" system does work for this purpose, though.

How can you claim that it is not easier? Did you really understood what I said?

bwaldron
02-18-2009, 10:47 AM
How can you claim that it is not easier? Did you really understood what I said?

Apparently not.

My point was that displaying the problematic page numbers has never helped me on other Mobi Readers (desktop/PDA).

If you want to go to one of these page numbers, the Cybook allows you to do that -- even if it does not display them. And I am just fine with that.

tompe
02-18-2009, 11:41 AM
Apparently not.

My point was that displaying the problematic page numbers has never helped me on other Mobi Readers (desktop/PDA).

If you want to go to one of these page numbers, the Cybook allows you to do that -- even if it does not display them. And I am just fine with that.

If you one more time read what I wrote you see that I talked about finding the place in the book were you stopped reading if the place is lost for some reason. It was not a question of going to a specific page number. So I really do not get your comments.

bwaldron
02-18-2009, 12:16 PM
So I really do not get your comments.

I already indicated that I must have misread your comments.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.