Hello,

So I got the Kindle at the 359.99 price reduction from what it originally was (399.99 right?). I'm realizing more and more that perhaps the price of the Kindle is due to the whispernet. A very revolutionary piece of tech for the reader. I find myself, however, never using it. I send my stuff to the Kindle through USB via PDFRead and simple .txt. I've only bought one ebook through Amazon and I don't subscribe to any magazines.

I'm considering selling it and getting a new ebook reader better suited for my needs. I'd still want an e-ink reader. But I'm not sure if I should sell this yet. The other reason I bought this is because Amazon usually has the best source for books and I was hoping to start buying my text books as ebooks. Would it still be good to hang on to the Kindle because of the .azw exclusive format? I mean I'd hate to get a Sony reader only to find that all of my text books for school are amazon exclusive.

I think I also read that there's going to be a Kindle geared towards students. Is this hardware going to be the same or is the ebook library simply going to have more text books? Any students here use ebook readers and think they know which one is best? If all I'm paying for is the whispernet when I bought my Kindle, I'd love to know which ebook reader is best for students!

That's a tough call. On one hand, I might expect Amazon's Kindle format to be more likely to be a future textbook format than Sony. On the other hand, the text industry, dragging their heels in e-texts, might decide a different or totally new format is better (perhaps one that does color). Without knowing more about the textbook industry's plans, trying to guess at the next textbook reader is almost sheer guesswork.

Obviously, if they do go color, your Kindle AND Sony's readers will not fit the bill. I'd assume at this point that, although the Kindle is more likely to handle e-texts, it will most likely be best used for casual reading, not academic use.

That's a tough call. On one hand, I might expect Amazon's Kindle format to be more likely to be a future textbook format than Sony. On the other hand, the text industry, dragging their heels in e-texts, might decide a different or totally new format is better (perhaps one that does color). Without knowing more about the textbook industry's plans, trying to guess at the next textbook reader is almost sheer guesswork.

Obviously, if they do go color, your Kindle AND Sony's readers will not fit the bill. I'd assume at this point that, although the Kindle is more likely to handle e-texts, it will most likely be best used for casual reading, not academic use.

And there's definitely no way to use Kindle ebooks on any other ebook reader. This is what bothers me. I don't really make use of whispernet but one of my crucial textbooks this semester is only in .azw format.

And there's definitely no way to use Kindle ebooks on any other ebook reader. This is what bothers me. I don't really make use of whispernet but one of my crucial textbooks this semester is only in .azw format.

That's true to a point and what Amazon wants you to think. However, if you are willing to learn how to "liberate" the ebooks by removing the DRM they can be used on other devices.

BOb

I'm realizing more and more that perhaps the price of the Kindle is due to the whispernet.

I don't agree with you - I very much doubt that "whispernet" adds more than $20 at most to the retail cost of the Kindle; there are numerous devices in that same $300-350 price bracket.

I was one of the first to get the Kindle, and I did try a couple textbooks on it. I would not recommend it.

The first problem is the comparative cost. You cannot resell a Kindle textbook.

The second problem is that page turns are too slow. You can't flip back and forth between several pages as easily as a book.

The third problem is that the screen is too small. It simply won't hold enough information.

You already own the Kindle. If you sell it now you lose a lot of its value as the price must be less than the current sale price (even after the Oprah discount.) With stories going around about a "new Kindle" before Christmas, the price may be depressed even more. In short, the least expensive e-ink device is the one you already own. If your critical textbook is Kindle only, stay there.

You already own the Kindle. If you sell it now you lose a lot of its value as the price must be less than the current sale price (even after the Oprah discount.) With stories going around about a "new Kindle" before Christmas, the price may be depressed even more. In short, the least expensive e-ink device is the one you already own. If your critical textbook is Kindle only, stay there.

Hmm well, I can still get a good price for it on ebay, if I sell soon. I wonder if I should use that cash to get the PRS-700? The semester is nearly over and that one text book is going to longer be needed in a month.

Hmm well, I can still get a good price for it on ebay, if I sell soon. I wonder if I should use that cash to get the PRS-700? The semester is nearly over and that one text book is going to longer be needed in a month.

With the current $50 coupon on the Kindle till Nov 1st you probably won't get a good price. If you wait till after then I would expect that you can get around $300 for it. Especially if you are willing to ship it overseas.

BOb

I suggest waiting until Amazon announces their text book reader (early?) next year. You may get less for the Kindle then if you have to sell it, but if you buy a PRS-700 now and have to sell it for a Kindle2 that would cost more in the long run.

Part of the reason for my suggestion is that I don't see the PRS-700 to be a huge improvement over the Kindle for your reading pattern. Or are you looking for the reflow capability of Digital Editions for PDFs?

That's a tough call. On one hand, I might expect Amazon's Kindle format to be more likely to be a future textbook format than Sony. On the other hand, the text industry, dragging their heels in e-texts, might decide a different or totally new format is better (perhaps one that does color). Without knowing more about the textbook industry's plans, trying to guess at the next textbook reader is almost sheer guesswork.

Obviously, if they do go color, your Kindle AND Sony's readers will not fit the bill. I'd assume at this point that, although the Kindle is more likely to handle e-texts, it will most likely be best used for casual reading, not academic use.

As of today the Sony is much better than the Kindle for text books. It has support for more formats that textbooks are likely to be published in and has the ability to allow students to read their books on a pc when they need to. Of course Amazon could give textbook publishers a deal they can't refuse I suppose but as configured it is not the best deal for the students.

Dale

As of today the Sony is much better than the Kindle for text books. It has support for more formats that textbooks are likely to be published in and has the ability to allow students to read their books on a pc when they need to. Of course Amazon could give textbook publishers a deal they can't refuse I suppose but as configured it is not the best deal for the students.

Dale
The Sony Reader PRS-700 is currently the best bet for a 6" screen based reader and text books due to the ability to search and make notes along with what Dale has said. But, the 700 is not due out till mid November.

You have to look at the repercussions. Not only would you have to sell your Kindle, you'd have to change your username :(

Of course Amazon could give textbook publishers a deal they can't refuse I suppose but as configured it is not the best deal for the students.

That would be a chief concern of mine... we all know that technology isn't always chosen for its superiority, but often for its clout...

I was one of the first to get the Kindle, and I did try a couple textbooks on it. I would not recommend it.

The first problem is the comparative cost. You cannot resell a Kindle textbook.

The second problem is that page turns are too slow. You can't flip back and forth between several pages as easily as a book.

The third problem is that the screen is too small. It simply won't hold enough information.

I love my Kindle for novels and such but I don't think I would like it for textbooks. It does have search, annotation and dictionary look up which helps but, as you say, the limitations of a 6" eink screen are just a bit much. I think the Kindle also has a specific disadvantage in that you can't read the books on your computer as well. Sure, you can transfer clippings, but since there are times I would want the big screen, color and to be able to do a lot of clippings quickly, I think that would bug me. It also means that any student without a Kindle couldn't use the ebook unless it was also available in other formats. I don't think most universities would like that.

I read my Kindle stuff on the PC just fine after freeing them :D

Is it possible to free files and then put them in a format that the PRS-700 can read? I'm contemplating selling the Kindle and putting that cash aside to go toward a textbook Kindle and I'm selling my iPod Touch that I won (didn't cost a thing) and maybe putting that toward a PRS-700 so I can have the best of both worlds. I'll only get $200 for the iPod Touch at best but it's not like I paid for it. It'd be like spending $200 on the 700.

I really can't stand the iPod Touch's small screen or the fact that it's LCD and I don't ever listen to the music on the go. The apps are neat, but I've had my iPod Touch switched off for nearly three weeks, which means it's in great condition! I haven't been able to integrate this thing into my daily routine as an organizer. It's funny, I prefer e-paper for reading, but I prefer my hand calendar and pen over iCal sync to iPod Touch.

Plus, if I sell the Kindle and save the cash for the next Kindle then I can still be the KindleKid!

Is it possible to free files and then put them in a format that the PRS-700 can read? I'm contemplating selling the Kindle and putting that cash aside to go toward a textbook Kindle and I'm selling my iPod Touch that I won (didn't cost a thing) and maybe putting that toward a PRS-700 so I can have the best of both worlds.

Yes... it is possible. But, once you sell your Kindle you can't buy Kindle ebooks any more. Search for mobidedrm for tons of info.

BOb

I read my Kindle stuff on the PC just fine after freeing them :D

True. I do wonder if more textbooks would be in .tpz, though, to preserve the formatting and keep people from freeing them. Also, since "officially" they can't be read on a computer, the university would have to evaluate it as such.

I mean I'd hate to get a Sony reader only to find that all of my text books for school are amazon exclusive.

So why do you think the Sony PRS-700 will better suit your needs :blink:

If you aren't getting much use from your Kindle or I Touch, I would sell them now while you can get a decent price...and then put the money in the bank and WAIT until something comes out that you will truly get a lot of use out both in terms of functionality AND content.

Otherwise, its a lot of money to spend to spend something that isn't really what you want/need.

Have you owned your Kindle for less than 30 days (based on ship date)? If so you should just return it for a refund.

Have you owned your Kindle for less than 30 days (based on ship date)? If so you should just return it for a refund.

Unfortunately no. I've had it since late July or so. I'm considering selling the iPod Touch and using to put toward a PRS-700 and keeping the Kindle so I have two and use them both on set for sharing on the set and for myself in school.

True. I do wonder if more textbooks would be in .tpz, though, to preserve the formatting and keep people from freeing them. Also, since "officially" they can't be read on a computer, the university would have to evaluate it as such.

I suspect it might be more likely that textbooks would come out in PDF, if they were going to come out in any existing format. (This would allow color, has a measure of security built-in, and allows students to use laptops to read texts... students already have laptops.) As I don't think the existing readers are well suited for textbooks without color, a new reader would likely be designed, and a format that handles color (possibly a new one) would be used for it.

Unless .tpz does color, it will probably not be used for texts.

I suspect it might be more likely that textbooks would come out in PDF, if they were going to come out in any existing format. (This would allow color, has a measure of security built-in, and allows students to use laptops to read texts... students already have laptops.) As I don't think the existing readers are well suited for textbooks without color, a new reader would likely be designed, and a format that handles color (possibly a new one) would be used for it.

Unless .tpz does color, it will probably not be used for texts.

I just removed my textbook from the Kindle and my textbook is a .tpz is this a non-free-able format?

I just removed my textbook from the Kindle and my textbook is a .tpz is this a non-free-able format?

It is, yes (non-freeable, that is).

Hello,

So I got the Kindle at the 359.99 price reduction from what it originally was (399.99 right?). I'm realizing more and more that perhaps the price of the Kindle is due to the whispernet. A very revolutionary piece of tech for the reader. I find myself, however, never using it. I send my stuff to the Kindle through USB via PDFRead and simple .txt. I've only bought one ebook through Amazon and I don't subscribe to any magazines.

I'm considering selling it and getting a new ebook reader better suited for my needs. I'd still want an e-ink reader. But I'm not sure if I should sell this yet. The other reason I bought this is because Amazon usually has the best source for books and I was hoping to start buying my text books as ebooks. Would it still be good to hang on to the Kindle because of the .azw exclusive format? I mean I'd hate to get a Sony reader only to find that all of my text books for school are amazon exclusive.

I think I also read that there's going to be a Kindle geared towards students. Is this hardware going to be the same or is the ebook library simply going to have more text books? Any students here use ebook readers and think they know which one is best? If all I'm paying for is the whispernet when I bought my Kindle, I'd love to know which ebook reader is best for students!

No! You should *NOT* sell your Kindle. Instead, you should give it away to some poor, deserving, deprived (some say depraved, but what do they know) person! (Stands up. Waves hands frantically to gain your attention. Tosses you a snail mail address for delivery. :D )

No! You should *NOT* sell your Kindle. Instead, you should give it away to some poor, deserving, deprived (some say depraved, but what do they know) person!

From your profile:

Device: Netronix EB-100, Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V

Yes, certainly deprived.

BOb

From your profile:

Device: Netronix EB-100, Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V

Yes, certainly deprived.

BOb

I've been corrupted by Barack Obama! Deprived is as deprived believes!!! :D :D :D

Derek