With the DR1000 out, I'm thinking about selling my iLiad. I really don't need 2 e-ink devices, and the new one would be a lot more useful for reading technical documents and writing.

However, I'd like to keep doing porting work and keep improving the device. It would be nice to have the iLiad at home and the DR1000 at work.

So what do you guys think? If I don't, it'll be a few months before I can buy the 1000.

How much could I realistically get for the iLiad? I could offer to customize it with 3rd party programs and helpers...

With the DR1000 out, I'm thinking about selling my iLiad. I really don't need 2 e-ink devices, and the new one would be a lot more useful for reading technical documents and writing.

However, I'd like to keep doing porting work and keep improving the device. It would be nice to have the iLiad at home and the DR1000 at work.

So what do you guys think? If I don't, it'll be a few months before I can buy the 1000.

How much could I realistically get for the iLiad? I could offer to customize it with 3rd party programs and helpers...

Nonono, you totally missunderstood this, he who has most e-reading devices when he dies, wins. So in other words, hold on to your old Iliad, and save up for the Reader, thats what I'll do anycase, so, I have to wait a few months, no matter. By then we will know the quality and durability of the device, thanks to the "cutting edge" people :)

The problem is that I am one of the early adopters.

I have too many unused devices as it is, so I go for quality over quantity. ;)

How much could I realistically get for the iLiad? I could offer to customize it with 3rd party programs and helpers...
The online auction prices will fall. The old ones of last week are history, will never be as high.
iLiad is a museum piece. The iLiad will disappear in the iRex shop. I don't believe we get a new iLiad firmware.
Maybe you should include a "Adam B. was my previous owner" sticker in auction package. This could boost the price. ;-) "I am rich" for Contentlister maybe should help, too.

Oh no, please keep your iLiad and continue to provide us with good ported software... :)

Don't fall for this shiny new device, please :cry: Think about it: It comes with a 100% perfect software, so there's nothing to tweak or code for you. :D

If I could sell my old Iliad for 500€ I'd gladly pay the remaining uprice to get the 1000WS edition. But since my iLiad is now just 9 months old, I don't see me buying the 1000 either anytime too soon, until my iLiad is a few years old... I'm not that rich :)

(However I got already some co-workers interested into eInk devices. However most decided after trying out my iLiad for a while, its not yet there for them, I'd just be too nosy what they would say about the 1000WS)

Adam, if your willing to do some more of your amazing work, i am sure, we can work something out. ;)

If I could get $500 for my iLiad, I'd sell it in a heartbeat. $250 for the difference for the 1000 wouldn't be bad at all.

Adam, if your willing to do some more of your amazing work, i am sure, we can work something out. ;)

Amazing work? Porting and general hackery? I definitely plan to keep doing that. :thumbsup:

With the DR1000 out, I'm thinking about selling my iLiad. I really don't need 2 e-ink devices, and the new one would be a lot more useful for reading technical documents and writing.

However, I'd like to keep doing porting work and keep improving the device. It would be nice to have the iLiad at home and the DR1000 at work.

So what do you guys think? If I don't, it'll be a few months before I can buy the 1000.

How much could I realistically get for the iLiad? I could offer to customize it with 3rd party programs and helpers...

Since this iLiad has been used by Adam B. and was the ground for so many great hacks we still use today, I think it's just priceless!

Seriously, couldn't you be offered the DR1000 for, er... critical profesionnal requirements?

If I could get $500 for my iLiad, I'd sell it in a heartbeat. $250 for the difference for the 1000 wouldn't be bad at all.

We need to start a collection to pay Adam to keep his iLiad. :D

We need to start a collection to pay Adam to keep his iLiad. :D

Or I can start standing next to the highway with a sign. :D

http://www.123glitter.com/smiley_signs/create.php?id=blush%5E_%5Earial%5E_%5E4%5E_%5E2%5E _%5EWill+Port+For+Food%5E_%5E.gif

http://smileyvillage.com/builder/1.14..Adam+%252B+iLiad+=+<3.png

It took me 6 months to convince myself that I really really REALLY neaded an iliad (3 months ago). 9 months would have been better for this type of pregnancy ;-)

There are 2 Iliads for sale right now at www.marktplaats.nl, someone is offering 300E...
3 for sale on ebay for 400...

Q: Will any of the new software programs be back ported to the iLiad?
A: No, for this the iLiad and the DR1000 hardware infrastructure differ too much.

Q: Will iRex continue to support the iLiad with new firmware?
A: We will continue to support the iLiad but we have no immediate plans to add new functionalities.

Which pretty much amounts to "shame on you for trusting us to care about your complaints", I suppose.

Q: Will iRex continue to support the iLiad with new firmware?
A: We will continue to support the iLiad but we have no immediate plans to add new functionalities.
http://forum.irexnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2859
=> no 2.13

http://forum.irexnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2859
=> no 2.13

I expected as much.

However:

Q: Will any of the internal applications be open sourced?
A: Yes, most of them. Some are closed since they contain proprietary code but these are still available in the environment to be used by third party developers.

Maybe there's still hope for iLiad users. ;)

We have to take a look at the new SDK, but I've always thought that a Developers Reward Program, ($DRP) would be great.
at least it would help to buy the latest gear. :)

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Anyway, I will probably be selling my iLiad V2 for what I think is a really good price.

I was concerned about battery life (DR1000), but then I thought that, no matter what, it had to be better anyway. :)

The offer will be for Mobileread users only.

http://forum.irexnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2859
=> no 2.13

There probably will be a 2.13 but future updates will likely just be bug fixes/etc rather than major features. I think they even said elsewhere on the forum that they do expect to have firmware updates down the road for the iLiad, but that nothing is planned right now.

I'm pretty irritated about their failure to deliver the new multi-format viewer they've been promising.

Adam, I bought my iLiad largely because of all the ports you did. (And Scotty1024.) If you abandon iLiad development, the value of iLiads everywhere goes down. :(

Including yours! :eek:

I think I've decided to keep my iLiad. But mostly because I remembered that I have the power switch issue that plagues a few people. Turning it off and on can sometimes take a few swipes of the switch. I don't want someone else to get stuck with a nonworking device that won't power on.

I'm pretty irritated about their failure to deliver the new multi-format viewer they've been promising.


IMO, it's still not 100% clear whether or not they'll be adding that to the iLiad. Recent statements would suggest that they aren't adding new functionality, but on the other hand they've been talking about a new viewer framework for a long time (probably even last year). Is that considered "new functionality"?

Hopefully there will be a definitive answer from iRex on that soon. It doesn't sound likely, but I'm still holding out at least a shred of hope. ;)

We need to start a collection to pay Adam to keep his iLiad. I suggest we setup a chipin, with a goal of $425, half the cost of a new DR1000SW, to defray the cost of Adam keeping his iLiad. The last one was setup by jplumey for the "MobileRead Community", see Calibre's new features - ePub support and automated news download! (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25169). I am hoping that someone with chipin experience will volunteer to set this up, although by making the suggestion I realize that I may get stuck with organizing it.

Even if Adam keeps his iLiad, it sounds like he's not planning on doing much more development for it.

Adam?

My thoughts on "new functionality": The Universal Shell that the 1000 has fits into the "universal reader with plugins" that they were promising for the iliad.But as they said they will not backport features, I think we can forget the plug-in based reader for the iliad.

OTOH, they say they have a patched Qemu with e-ink screen emulation; if that is open-source, it can be VERY interesting if it can be used inside the VMWare devel image for the iliad.

And finally, this explains why they were so slow releasing new firmwares for the iliad: they were frenetically coding the new app stack for the 1000.In fact, I'm surprised that they managed to release some firmware updates at all. After all, they have upgraded the delta chip, rewritten the shell from scratch, ported a webkit-based browser... and it's very probable they've have changed also the Java VM for Mobipocket (which will have made them rewrite some parts of it too).

Anyway, the universal reader framework has advantages (scribble support, consistent UI), but one very crude disadvantage: it's tailored to new apps, not to porting apps. Only those apps that have a well-defined rendering engine (i.e. poppler, webkit) will be easy to port to a framework like that..

Certainly I would love to know how to do the partial updates needed to implement scribbles ourselves (and I think that would be more useful than the universal reader with plug-ins)... :D

I hereby selling my Iliad.. anyone want my brand new iLiad V2?
I will never EVER buy another product from iRex again. The level of support and software/firmware quality is to be ashamed.
Using us that are on the frontline of new tech as paying beta testers to make a product that is based on the communities feedback, but leaving us out in the cold with descent software as we would expect a device to work? No thank you!
From now on I say: take a look at Sony, Kindle, Hanlin, Bebook etc.. all better then this.

Oh.. Karel.. nice to show you face around then there is an announcement to make.. but other then that.... don't bother!

Even if Adam keeps his iLiad, it sounds like he's not planning on doing much more development for it.

Adam?

If there's work to be done, and I'm able to do it, I'll definitely keep working on the iLiad. :)

Lately, real life has gotten in the way...

I have been meaning to go back to Linux on my home computer, and if I can leave my iLiad at home (and have the DR at work), it may be what I need to get back into it. :cool:

I've really been meaning to see what all can be done with Antartica's new display manager.

If iRex really isn't going to do a new viewer framework for the iLiad, it would be terrific if someone could merge the different iPDF variants into one.... We could start a chip-in fund, if there's a developer interested.

I just planned to start a project - iManga. Its purpose is to add cbz and cbr format support (mainly for jpg and png) based on fullscreen iPDF source code.
Though my own Java version iManga already makes me satisfied, I am also bothered with not being able to make button panel disappear. That's why I want to borrow some code from fullscreen iPDF to build a C version iManga.
Since DR1000 comes out, and effort on iLiad may be hard to move to DR1000. Perhaps I should stop the small project.
Well, I have to thank iRex for releasing DR1000, because it persuaded me not to spend too much time on toying my iLiad.

If the DR's software is mainly open source and it's not too heavily tied to the hardware, we could possibly port some parts of the DR's software back to the iLiad. Can't wait to see some of the source code ;)

I just planned to start a project - iManga. Its purpose is to add cbz and cbr format support (mainly for jpg and png) based on fullscreen iPDF source code.
Though my own Java version iManga already makes me satisfied, I am also bothered with not being able to make button panel disappear. That's why I want to borrow some code from fullscreen iPDF to build a C version iManga.
Since DR1000 comes out, and effort on iLiad may be hard to move to DR1000. Perhaps I should stop the small project.
Well, I have to thank iRex for releasing DR1000, because it persuaded me not to spend too much time on toying my iLiad.

I convert cbr/cbz in iLiad-sized fullscreen pdf (768x1024@160DPI) in two clicks using FastStone Viewer...

It also can optimize contrast/sharpening

;);););)

http://forum.irexnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2859
=> no 2.13

So, goodbye iRex.

When I bought the first iLiad, I was told new functions (like mp3 playback) would be added in time.
Last year I was told that an enhanced pdf reader was on the way
This summer we were told they were working on a framework for multi-format readers (but they didn't tell that they wanted 500€ more).

I call it "to lie".
I gave iRex more than 1200€ for two devices, and I'm so disappointed I want back all of them.
Now I ask my lawyer if I can sue them, and get my money back.

If the DR's software is mainly open source and it's not too heavily tied to the hardware, we could possibly port some parts of the DR's software back to the iLiad. Can't wait to see some of the source code ;)

Or: If there are really interesting user-created plug-ins for the 1000, it can be worthwhile doing a reader that conforms to their plug-in API so that those plug-ins can be compiled for tha iliad :rolleyes:.

The hardest part of doing (good) APIs is designing them. Cloning an API is comparatively easy :).

I convert cbr/cbz in iLiad-sized fullscreen pdf (768x1024@160DPI) in two clicks using FastStone Viewer...

It also can optimize contrast/sharpening

;);););)

I tried the viewer that you mentioned. Does it support cbz/cbr? It seems no. Besides, most of my cimic pics are landscape that is combined by two protrait images. So I need a automatic split function. As to image conversion, I prefer EyeBatch or Advanced batch Converter, because they provide more conversion function. Anyway, thanx for the above info.

Although I am longing to buy a DR1000, I have decided to stick to iLiad for at least two more years, unless it breaks.

There are a couple of utilities here that can help you convert CBR/CBZ to PDF, formatted specifically to iLiad size. There was also a port of a CBZ reader to the iLiad, though it used Java and I don't know if it still works (it was several firmware revisions ago). Personally, I prefer to convert my manga before loading them on the iLiad, as I have a 4Gb CF card and I couldn't store all the manga I own in paper on my iLiad in full CBZ format. I use manga2pdf (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12790&highlight=cbz+pdf) to process most of the cbz files in batch, then clean up any that didn't convert with JE-Comics Converter (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9125&highlight=cbz+pdf). Then I open the resulting PDF files in Acrobat 7 Pro and use the "Reduce File Size..." command. I get nice small files (usually 12-14Mb each), so I can fit plenty on my CF card, and legibility seems to be fine so far. Both manga2pdf and JE-Comics Converter can split double-page spreads, too.

The first java cbz viewer was released by scotty1024, and the second (the last) was released by "me". They are working on FW2.11 only. And a small modification will make them work on FW2.12.

I have tried manga2pdf and JE-Comics Converter last year. They didn't meet my requirements. Still lack some functions I need.

I have plenty manga cbz files. Converting to pdf will be a last choice. I always believe amd pursuit that machine meeting user's need, not user adapting to machine.

My 11-month old iliad v2 including Medge case is sold $400 on ebay...the price really hurts me :(