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AlfonsVH
08-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is covered in another thread already; I'm not that good in using the search-function:o

I was wondering what English-language tools exist to convert things like ePub and PDF to FB2.
Currently I use BookDesigner or Any2FB2, but I was wondering what other programs exist. I also downloaded the OOoFBTools-package, which looks promising, but seems to be only available in Russian:(

Any ideas?

Kravejs
09-01-2008, 01:16 PM
Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is covered in another thread already; I'm not that good in using the search-function:o

I was wondering what English-language tools exist to convert things like ePub and PDF to FB2.
Currently I use BookDesigner or Any2FB2, but I was wondering what other programs exist. I also downloaded the OOoFBTools-package, which looks promising, but seems to be only available in Russian:(

Any ideas?

Hello!

I'm a developer of OOoFBTools package, and I have created the issue about localization: http://code.google.com/p/ooofbtools/issues/detail?id=1

I'm also planning to translate our package from our local language (Russian) into international language Esperanto.

I have also created google-group for your comments and sugessions: http://groups.google.com/group/ooo-fbtools

AlfonsVH
09-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Hello!

I'm a developer of OOoFBTools package, and I have created the issue about localization: http://code.google.com/p/ooofbtools/issues/detail?id=1

I'm also planning to translate our package from our local language (Russian) into international language Esperanto.

I have also created google-group for your comments and sugessions: http://groups.google.com/group/ooo-fbtools

:thanks: very much! I'll check it out!

sweetcream
11-23-2008, 02:46 PM
I don't understand at all. It's not a program and it's also unfortunately not in English.

=X=
11-23-2008, 03:11 PM
I don't understand at all. It's not a program and it's also unfortunately not in English.
It's a plugin that works with OpenOffice.

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mtravellerh
11-23-2008, 03:28 PM
It's a plugin that works with OpenOffice.

=X=

Does it? I couldn't tell. :)

Kravejs
08-27-2009, 03:02 PM
So, the new version translated to English!
http://code.google.com/p/ooofbtools/

Dave_S
08-31-2009, 03:28 AM
So, the new version translated to English!
http://code.google.com/p/ooofbtools/

:thanks:

I followed your link and downloaded OOoFBTools-1.7.0.zip, but it still looks all Russian to me. The change log and PDF help file were both Russian, with no English version that I could find. Is there a different download link somewhere for the English version of OOoFBTools-1.7.0.zip?
:thanks:

Mneme
09-02-2009, 06:58 PM
I followed your link and downloaded OOoFBTools-1.7.0.zip, but it still looks all Russian to me. The change log and PDF help file were both Russian, with no English version that I could find. Is there a different download link somewhere for the English version of OOoFBTools-1.7.0.zip?


If all you need is English documentation for the OOoFBTools-1.7.0 plugin, I could probably probably translate the Help file.

Dave_S
09-03-2009, 03:33 AM
If all you need is English documentation for the OOoFBTools-1.7.0 plugin, I could probably probably translate the Help file.

Thank you for your kind offer, but I hesitate to ask someone to take on such a large task. I use Book Designer now when I make FB2 books, and it works reasonably well. OOoFBTools would be a nice addition to currently available tools to create FB2 books, but only Russian speakers can read the OOoFBTools_Help.pdf . I thought that this announcement meant that OOoFBTools had been completely translated into English, but it seems that is not completely correct yet?

user_none
09-03-2009, 07:07 PM
calibre supports FB2 output.

Mneme
09-04-2009, 08:10 PM
BookDesigner is a nice tool, but I found when I was using it (about a year ago) it occasionally messed up tags so the file wouldn't validate. It was particularly prone to errors when creating endnotes. Are you able to use BookDesigner to create a valid file with endnotes without a tag mess these days?

Dave_S
09-05-2009, 03:15 AM
BookDesigner is a nice tool, but I found when I was using it (about a year ago) it occasionally messed up tags so the file wouldn't validate. It was particularly prone to errors when creating endnotes. Are you able to use BookDesigner to create a valid file with endnotes without a tag mess these days?

I only use Book Designer to convert HTML to FB2 for fiction novels and I do not care about TOCs or EndNotes, so I have not noticed the problems that you mention. Book Designer is no longer maintained, so I doubt that any of it's short comings will ever be fixed, and that is why a currently maintained tool like OOoFBTools interested me. But without installation and usage documentation in a language that I can read it is a bit out of my reach to use. I have looked at the OOoFBTools PDF documentation and can see that it is full of illustrations about the use of OOoFBTools, but the text accompanying the illustrations are unreadable to me. I suppose that I could use Google Language Tools to translate the text, but I have not gotten that energetic yet.:o

Mneme
09-29-2009, 08:31 AM
I have finally got around to trying the OpenOffice plug-in. It works very well and is now my favourite tool for conversion to fb2 format.
It installs in English (sort of, I think they used google to translate the text). I found the Help file not helpful in getting started, there's too much unnecessary technical detail and my eyes glazed over on page 2 ;) It might describe the plug-in's capabilities in detail and might be interesting to developers, but I really don't need to know or particularly care ...

Basically what I did was the following:

Installed the plug-in via OO Extension manager
Opened the ExportToFB21_Test-1 document that comes with the plug-in and saved it as a styles template

Now when I have a text I want to convert to fb2 all I do is:

save it as OO document (whatever.odt)
run the OOFBTools Text corrector ( I've played around with the options and pretty much use all of them except the first box - removing breaks for hyphens - and collecting lines of paragraph broken by symbol)

After the clean-up I search and replace chapter name formatting. I load the formatting styles from the saved template. I like to have a TOC and proper chapter navigation in the file, so I replace whatever format was used for chapter names by a style called Level 1 from the template.

That's pretty much all. I then export it to fb2 and to make sure the file validates I fill in the following:

book title
language
book author
genre


Using the plug-in for conversion is really easy and takes about one tenth of the time it took me to convert a file when I was using Book Designer.

Many thanks to the developer.

Stephanos
09-30-2009, 10:26 AM
I second the suggestion of using Calbre. Unlike OpenOffice, it can import Epub and PDF, as the original poster specified.

Mneme
09-30-2009, 07:22 PM
I second the suggestion of using Calbre. Unlike OpenOffice, it can import Epub and PDF, as the original poster specified.

I was excited about the possibility of converting my pdf files to other small-screen-friendly formats, so I gave calibre a shot at converting pdf to mobi or fb2. Unfortunately calibre is very picky with pdf files it can convert - out of 6 I tried (none were DRM), only one was converted successfully, the others failed with some error in one of the pdftohtml.pyo calls. Edit: pdf import success rate is 100% improved as of current calibre release.
I wasn't impressed with the one successful result of the pdf to fb2 conversion, either. For one thing, the resulting fb2 file didn't validate, even after I opened it in another editor and added compulsory elements, like language and genre. It appeared to have invalid tags, which did not conform to the schema. In addition, file structure detection was very poor. The file was one solid block instead of being divided into sections (chapters). Admittedly, I've only tried the GUI interface for conversion, it might be a different story with the command line.

Overall, calibre is a really impressive tool, but its fb2 conversion could be improved.

Edit: two updated versions of calibre later, fb2 conversion is still not up to scratch (IMHO), because converted files fail validation. An invalid file = unpredictable behaviour in readers.

BobC
10-17-2009, 12:57 PM
I convert most of my books to FB2 as my experience is that on the BeBook that format provides the best display. In addition the Table of Contents for the book is automatically generated by the reader and using it is much simpler than, say, the Mobipocket, approach..

Most of the time I have used Book Designer 5 to build the books however there are a couple of shortcomings that you need to be aware of when using it. The most frequent problem is that it does not correctly handle the ampersand character (&) which it halfheartedly renders as " amp; " (instead of the HTML entity " & "). No amount of playing around with BD5 seems to overcome this so I now post-process the resultant fb2 output file to correct the problem, changing instances of amp; to & using a text editor. You do have to be careful if doing this that you don't change words like "lamp" followed by a semi-colon to l& so include a leading space before the search and replace string. There is a slight possibility that you could be caught out by a phrase in a document about electrical matters where amp is used as a common shortform for ampere and is immediately followed by a semi-colon but I suspect documents including this would be rare.

The more problematic issue with Book Designer, however, is its inability to generate the correct fb2 code for tables. If you have a book where the display of a table is essential then trying to hack the output with a text editor, while possible, is messy. In fact other fb2 tools seem to also suffer from table-blindness. This is where OpenOffice can come to the rescue. The OpenOfficeOrg add-on OOOFBTools will produce tables that CoolReader (but not FBReader) will render sensibly. OOOFBTools can take a bit of getting used to as all the documentation is in Russian, however a little experimentation and practice will pay dividends. The important thing to remember is that if you want something to appear as a fb2 Title (and thus appear in the automatically generated TOC) then you need to use the style "level 1" (or level 2 etc) not the Title style


BobC

Kravejs
05-23-2011, 03:22 PM
If all you need is English documentation for the OOoFBTools-1.7.0 plugin, I could probably probably translate the Help file.

Thank you for you offers!

At this moment I opened English site: http://www.fbtools.org/ where I planed to collect all information about tools to create fiction book files. Moreover I can delegate rights for English part of this site to fix errors and add useful information because English is not my native language. Contact me by email: yegor.chemisov AT fbtools DOT org.

Yegor