One of Igor's famous easter eggs is this:

Shift-Sym start demo
Enabled only if allow_demo=true is passed on the Java commandline. Needs a special demo script present on the SD card.

Any idea what the "special script" is? I have never seen any reference to it. This sounds like a potential trapdoor to me. If it is, maybe my fantasy of an "image pan and zoom" is realizable.

Dave E

So like you did read the EULA for your Kindle, the one in which they basically say they'll fry all your purchases for hacking?

The Kindle has a security hole wider than that found on the iLiad and could be more easily hacked than the iLiad ever was. But the iLiad needed to be hacked. The units didn't do what they were supposed to do: they'd taken our money and not delivered what they promised. I never felt so ripped off in my life and by Phillips no less!

My Kindle does everything they told me it would. Amazon stands behind it with their customer service and constantly make fresh wonderful content available on a near daily basis. They made it clear they don't want anyone playing with it and I have no reason to get my wonderful ebook collection fried.

I haven't seen Igorsky jonsing to get his collection fried either. :)

Well, like, it doesn't do everything I want it to do. I would like the ability to pan and zoom an image. A map of Europe rendered to 5"x3.5" is useless to me. I spend a fortune every year with Amazon and I can't imagine that they give a damn what I do with my Kindle as long as I don't hack the DRM or try to defraud them in any way--which I certainly have no intention of doing. If someone built some software to improve the Kindle, where's the harm? Igor did a lot more hacking of the Kindle that I ever will. I just want to be able to see the pictures.

By the way, I did register my complaint with Amazon and I got no reply.

Dave E

The Kindle has a security hole wider than that found on the iLiad and could be more easily hacked than the iLiad ever was.


What security hole?

Well, like, it doesn't do everything I want it to do. I would like the ability to pan and zoom an image. A map of Europe rendered to 5"x3.5" is useless to me. I spend a fortune every year with Amazon and I can't imagine that they give a damn what I do with my Kindle as long as I don't hack the DRM or try to defraud them in any way--which I certainly have no intention of doing. If someone built some software to improve the Kindle, where's the harm? Igor did a lot more hacking of the Kindle that I ever will. I just want to be able to see the pictures.

By the way, I did register my complaint with Amazon and I got no reply.

Dave E
The problem is that the Kindle's eBook format AZW is just a slightly modified Mobipocket format. And thus you have the issue of old technology developed for screen of a small size such as PDA and cell phones. So images tend to be small when dealing with a 6" eink screen. I was looking at Winston Churchill's books on WWII and found the images to be way too tiny to be of any use.

What really needs to be done is for Mobipocket to come out with a new version of their reader that is written fresh from the start. The way it's written, it has a host of bugs that cannot be fixed unless what we have now is scrapped and started over. This would also give them a chance to fix the image issues and make sure that any new eBooks have large enough images. Can you imagine that map of Europe on a 9.7" eink screen, how even more unreadable it will be? Most of the bugs/flaws are due to a 64k block limit when going forward/backward in the eBooks. Thus, they have to limit the physical size of the images otherwise it breaks this block size. They break the eBooks up into 64k blocks supposedly for speed. But what good is speed if it causes too many issues. If they did away with that, they could have larger images and working page numbers among other fixes.

Well, like, it doesn't do everything I want it to do. I would like the ability to pan and zoom an image. A map of Europe rendered to 5"x3.5" is useless to me. I spend a fortune every year with Amazon and I can't imagine that they give a damn what I do with my Kindle as long as I don't hack the DRM or try to defraud them in any way--which I certainly have no intention of doing. If someone built some software to improve the Kindle, where's the harm? Igor did a lot more hacking of the Kindle that I ever will. I just want to be able to see the pictures.

By the way, I did register my complaint with Amazon and I got no reply.

Dave E

You really haven't thought this through at all have you?

You were imagining hacking up an application to allow viewing pictures embedded in books? Well how exactly would that application pan and zoom pictures protected by DRM without hacking the DRM?

Or did you imagine you were going to extend the existing book reader application on the platform? Well ditto the above comment. You'd have to hack that application's DRM system, the one thing they're clearly out to protect, the crown jewel of the platform, to gain access to un-protected content so you can pan and zoom it.

Either way, once you showed everyone your mad hacking skillz how exactly would that code not be used to pull images and text from books?

So where did you imagine Amazon was not going to care about your activities???

You need to realize that images have always been the incestuous-love-child-kept-chained-under-the-stairs of the ebook industry. High quality images worth panning and zooming are big. Have you noticed Amazon offering up any Manga? Whispernet isn't unlimited bandwidth and they like that "On your Kindle in under a minute" tag line. Your desires may be laudable "I want my pictures and see them too!" but they run smack into the harsh realities of the technology.

You need to realize that images have always been the incestuous-love-child-kept-chained-under-the-stairs of the ebook industry. High quality images worth panning and zooming are big. Have you noticed Amazon offering up any Manga? Whispernet isn't unlimited bandwidth and they like that "On your Kindle in under a minute" tag line. Your desires may be laudable "I want my pictures and see them too!" but they run smack into the harsh realities of the technology. It is a downside of Whispernet that it makes file size significant again, just when mega GB memory cards rendered that mindset otherwise obsolete.

An example of a useful hack that would not get in the way of DRM is the replacement of the font with one that supported non-Latin languages. I can see why Amazon does not want to deal with multiple fonts, but that is exactly why a hack may be the best solution. If the new font does not work you only have yourself to blame, but if it does work you have an additional capability that is needed by only a tiny minority of Kindle users (but very important to those who need it).

I can see why Amazon does not want to deal with multiple fonts,

Why? Most other versions of the MobiPocket Reader allow one to use any TrueType font; I'm sure that it would be a relatively minor change for Amazon to add this functionality to the Kindle. The basic "philosophy" of MobiPocket has always been to permit the user to determine the "appearance" of the book - the font it's displayed in, justification, margin widths, etc - rather than to have it "hardwired".

IMHO lack of TT font support is currently one of the most significant restrictions of the Kindle compared to other devices with MobiPocket support.

Why? Most other versions of the MobiPocket Reader allow one to use any TrueType font; I'm sure that it would be a relatively minor change for Amazon to add this functionality to the Kindle. I am in favor of the "user decides" approach, but Amazon has gone for a strictly controlled environment which has advantages from their point of view. One of the biggest is fewer support requests (user installed fonts are a nightmare to support, because most of them are bootlegged and so Amazon couldn't even ask the customer to send them the fonts). I have previously suggested that Amazon might make some extra profit from the Kindle by selling font packages. This would get round the bootlegged fonts issue, but even a limited number of fonts may increase support load too much.

Actually adding multiple fonts might be trivial to implement, or might involve some work. On the iLiad, there are many fonts available to Linux apps but only two available to Java apps like the MobiPocket Reader. Again on the iLiad, you can add your own TT fonts for Linux but only at the risk of crashing the boot sequence.

You really haven't thought this through at all have you?

You were imagining hacking up an application to allow viewing pictures embedded in books? Well how exactly would that application pan and zoom pictures protected by DRM without hacking the DRM?

Or did you imagine you were going to extend the existing book reader application on the platform? Well ditto the above comment. You'd have to hack that application's DRM system, the one thing they're clearly out to protect, the crown jewel of the platform, to gain access to un-protected content so you can pan and zoom it.

Either way, once you showed everyone your mad hacking skillz how exactly would that code not be used to pull images and text from books?

So where did you imagine Amazon was not going to care about your activities???

You need to realize that images have always been the incestuous-love-child-kept-chained-under-the-stairs of the ebook industry. High quality images worth panning and zooming are big. Have you noticed Amazon offering up any Manga? Whispernet isn't unlimited bandwidth and they like that "On your Kindle in under a minute" tag line. Your desires may be laudable "I want my pictures and see them too!" but they run smack into the harsh realities of the technology.

Young man, I have been a hardware engineer for more than 30 years. Let me give you a piece of advice: Do not live your life in fear of lawyers. There is a reason God gave you balls. Use them once in awhile.

Here is the hack I want. It has nothing to do with DRM or Whispernet:

Imagine an application (in place of this "demo") that does the following: When I hit Shift-SYM it takes a screenshot of the current 800x600 image and divides it into four quadrants, each 400x300. Then as I hit the Next Page key it takes each quadrant in turn, blows it up to 800x600, and displays it. Next Page and Prev Page cycle through the quadrants. The Back key would take be back to where I was originally. This could be recursive, such that if the exploded quadrant was not large enough I could hit Shift-SYM again and blow that one up, etc.

I fully recognize the limitations due to the resolution of the original image. There is nothing we can do about that unless the hi-res image is baked into the original ebook. However, my limited experiments with blowing up screenshots in PhotoShop have convinced me that this idea has some merit. It is certainly better than what they have now.

I'll give $500 to the first person who figures out how to do this, sends me the working code and gets it to work on my Kindle. Lab126 employees exempted.

Regards,

Dave E

The problem is that the Kindle's eBook format AZW is just a slightly modified Mobipocket format. And thus you have the issue of old technology developed for screen of a small size such as PDA and cell phones. So images tend to be small when dealing with a 6" eink screen. I was looking at Winston Churchill's books on WWII and found the images to be way too tiny to be of any use.


Since Amazon has full control and can update the readers the format can do anything they want. There is no reason for an awz file to have small images since it does not have to be built for many devices.


What really needs to be done is for Mobipocket to come out with a new version of their reader that is written fresh from the start. The way it's written, it has a host of bugs that cannot be fixed unless what we have now is scrapped and started over. This would also give them a chance to fix the image issues and make sure that any new eBooks have large enough images.


The reader is not the problem. The format specification is. So they have to introduce a new format in the same way that Amazon has introduced a new format.

Most of the bugs/flaws are due to a 64k block limit when going forward/backward in the eBooks. Thus, they have to limit the physical size of the images otherwise it breaks this block size. They break the eBooks up into 64k blocks supposedly for speed.

They do it because the specification says it should be done. The blocks do not matter if the specification defines images that can be saved in more than one block.


But what good is speed if it causes too many issues. If they did away with that, they could have larger images and working page numbers among other fixes.

Page number problems have nothing to do with block size.

AZW could easily implement the image zoom feature already built into Mobipocket book reader and already available for books in the topaz structure. It is stupid not to. I do like the automatic doubling feature. That was a nice touch but there should be zoom as well.

Dale

Young man, I have been a hardware engineer for more than 30 years. Let me give you a piece of advice: Do not live your life in fear of lawyers. There is a reason God gave you balls. Use them once in awhile.

Here is the hack I want. It has nothing to do with DRM or Whispernet:


I have no clue why you think I have no balls because of lawyers. I said Amazon has a standing offer to de-authorize access to all the ebooks you've bought from them for your Kindle if you hack the platform in a manner they don't like. No mention of lawyers, they just send the kill order and zap!

Do I believe them? You bet. They've zapped digital content I've purchased from them before. I have no doubt of their sincerity this time either.

Why the datum about 30 years hardware engineering experience? It doesn't add to the discussion since it seems even with that background you can't hack it yourself Daddy-O. Or are you stating that because you have 30 years experience you'd actually be able to pay the $500 clams, or was that USD, or EUR?

And again, why do you think reaching in and grabbing the screen contents isn't a violation of the DRM system? Someone could use the hot key code you mentioned to feed "Next Page" keys into the Kindle book viewer app and then scarf down all the screens for a book onto a storage card. A bit of OCR and poof: DRM free content.

In any case what are the other details of the offer?

Are you planning on paying by Paypal? Or some other means? A meet at Starbucks and five Benjamin's under the table perhaps?

Since the payment is over $200, will the hacker be required to fill out a W-9 and return it to you prior to payment? After all, you're legally required to file a 1099-MISC to report the payment to the IRS to ensure the Hacker is paying their income taxes.

In addition, is the Hacker required to send you a copy of their Social Security card or Employment Authorization Document (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Authorization_Document) to prove they are legally entitled to work in America? Or does your lack of respect for the law extend to hiring illegal workers?

Or is your offer open only to Hackers physically located outside the USA?

And speaking of employment, what proof does the Hacker need to present to prove they don't work for "Lab126" as you require?

Are you indemnifying the Hacker from legal action if Amazon zaps your content or the content of anyone else that uses the code?

Will the code ownership transfer to you, remain with the Hacker or do you expect it to be open sourced? If open sourced, do you place expectations on where it is hosted?

If your Kindle hardware has to be replaced does the Hacker have to re-install the code on the new Kindle?

If Amazon upgrades the software on your Kindle and the code breaks does the Hacker have to fix it and re-install it? Or if you Kindle is rendered incapacitated by the upgrade process does the Hacker have to help you repair your Kindle? If the Kindle is un-repairable does the Hacker owe you a new Kindle?

Is there a time limit or expiration on the offer? If you decide to sell your Kindle and purchase something like a CyBook is the offer still standing?

The Kindle has a security hole wider than that found on the iLiad and could be more easily hacked than the iLiad ever was.

What security hole?

You never answered my question.

You never answered my question.

I believe Igorsky has it well documented on his blog.

AZW could easily implement the image zoom feature already built into Mobipocket book reader and already available for books in the topaz structure. It is stupid not to. I do like the automatic doubling feature. That was a nice touch but there should be zoom as well.

Dale

Yes, but this requires actual rendering/dithering, whereas my idea is trivial to implement if you have access to the frame buffer. Anyway, if we got that far we could certainly do it. The code is probably already in the Java library.

Dave E

Yes, but this requires actual rendering/dithering, whereas my idea is trivial to implement if you have access to the frame buffer. Anyway, if we got that far we could certainly do it. The code is probably already in the Java library.

Dave E

Yes, but your idea rerenders the small rendering itself likely through simple pixel replication on an image that is already poor resolution. It may be better than what is there now but Amazon should be encouraged to support the original method that they disabled or broke when they built the product. Some images are big in the file and then shrunk for display. The zoom feature would not just pixel replicate but would use the larger image itself to render a better resolution picture. I am not suggesting your idea is not workable but rather that some users should request that they fix the feature that should already be in the product. Just a thought.

Dale

It's interesting to note that, to the best of my knowledge, no eInk implementation of the Mobi Reader implements the "image mode" found on Windows/Win CE/Palm versions of the reader. I wonder if this is due to perceived shortcomings of eInk displays (slow refresh rate, perhaps?) or if there's some other reason for it?

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And again, why do you think reaching in and grabbing the screen contents isn't a violation of the DRM system? Someone could use the hot key code you mentioned to feed "Next Page" keys into the Kindle book viewer app and then scarf down all the screens for a book onto a storage card. A bit of OCR and poof: DRM free content.


So what? You can use a digital camera also for producing imaged of a Kindle book or a paper book. You can also retype the book.

It's interesting to note that, to the best of my knowledge, no eInk implementation of the Mobi Reader implements the "image mode" found on Windows/Win CE/Palm versions of the reader. I wonder if the Blackberry version has this option, since it is also based on the Java reader.

It's interesting to note that, to the best of my knowledge, no eInk implementation of the Mobi Reader implements the "image mode" found on Windows/Win CE/Palm versions of the reader. I wonder if this is due to perceived shortcomings of eInk displays (slow refresh rate, perhaps?) or if there's some other reason for it?

Since the Kindle already has it for Topaz is should, could have it for standard AZW files. Do you think Kindle implementation is via Java? I am not sure but even if it is there is no reason I can think up for that lack of image mode.

Dale

Yes, but your idea rerenders the small rendering itself likely through simple pixel replication on an image that is already poor resolution. It may be better than what is there now but Amazon should be encouraged to support the original method that they disabled or broke when they built the product. Some images are big in the file and then shrunk for display. The zoom feature would not just pixel replicate but would use the larger image itself to render a better resolution picture. I am not suggesting your idea is not workable but rather that some users should request that they fix the feature that should already be in the product. Just a thought.

Dale

I heartily agree with you that Amazon should fix the software and provide this feature. As far as I know, an inline image can be zoomed to full screen size on the Kindle (see Kindle's Sort of "Zoom" Feature (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25442)). But it cannot be zoomed larger than full screen size.

Most of the unreadable images I run across are already full screen size. My idea is just a hack to get around the problem. Obviously the resolution of the original image (grabbed from the framebuffer in my scenario) is a serious limitation.

I think whatever piece of code handles the <alt><Shift>G screenshot feature would be a good place to start. It obviously accesses the frame buffer directly.

Igor, are you out there? Did you look at this with JAD?

Dave E

So what? You can use a digital camera also for producing imaged of a Kindle book or a paper book. You can also retype the book.

Sure you could, if you have hours to take the pictures and clean up the OCR.

But by using the hot key tool you wind up with files on a storage card ready to feed into your favorite OCR tool in minutes. Being nice crisp perfectly base lined text the OCR output is 100% accurate with no touch up required.

I believe content providers call that "way too easy to rip us off".

Igor, are you out there? Did you look at this with JAD?

Daddy-O obviously didn't understand the license he agreed to when he broke the seal and fired up his Kindle for the first time.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200144530

In particular....

No Reverse Engineering, Decompilation, Disassembly or Circumvention. You may not, and you will not encourage, assist or authorize any other person to, modify, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Device or the Software, whether in whole or in part, create any derivative works from or of the Software, or bypass, modify, defeat or tamper with or circumvent any of the functions or protections of the Device or Software or any mechanisms operatively linked to the Software, including, but not limited to, augmenting or substituting any digital rights management functionality of the Device or Software.

And this part ....

Termination. Your rights under this Agreement will automatically terminate without notice from Amazon if you fail to comply with any term of this Agreement. In case of such termination, you must cease all use of the Software and Amazon may immediately revoke your access to the Service or to Digital Content without notice to you and without refund of any fees. Amazon's failure to insist upon or enforce your strict compliance with this Agreement will not constitute a waiver of any of its rights.

Daddy-O is already in violation of the License and Terms of Use. But since he's got a big ol' swingin' pair he isn't afraid if anyone sends this thread into the Amazon legal department to see if his offering a bounty is more than they can stomach right? :thumbsup:

scotty1024, what is your problem? Why are you so worried about the license agreement and whether or not other people respect it?

This is a typical license agreement and you find it for virtually any other product.

Daddy-O hasn't done anything wrong; it's not illegal to ask questions; it's not illegal to build software for a device that is based on Linux if the code doesn't use any proprietary code.

I don't like how you are accusing forum members here of "violating" laws. If you are so much into accusing people, why don't you contact the guys from Bookeen and ask them to release the Linux sources for their e-reader?

Keep the discussion civil please, chaps. Disagreeing with someone's viewpoint is fine. Making personal attacks is not.

Thanks!

[Moderator]

I like being able to easily purchase fresh content in a timely manner especially on or close to the day the content is published on paper.

The music industry didn't go DRM-less because someone hacked the DRM and broke it free. They've started going DRM-less because it increases sales and the world didn't stop rotating. Their content gets played over and over and over again and people want to buy it.

Book publishers though know their content gets used once. If they're really fortunate maybe they have a classic and people will want to read it more than once. They're scared to death of their content getting handed around for free to get read that once. In their hard scrabble business too much free can mean the difference between a title being barely profitable and being a loser.

If someone creates an easy to use dumper that lets people easily dump content the platform is broken. End result: no more content.

Hacking skills don't come with no responsibilities. And as I've pointed out above in this thread: Amazon has very clearly staked out a position and they've delivered on their end. Does anyone here honestly think that if enough people ask for it Amazon won't add a pan and zoom option for images??? We need to risk destroying the platform to add a feature Amazon clearly could add themselves?

Over in the Experimental section of the Kindle they ask people to send them ideas to their feedback email address on how to improve the platform. Do we know if Dave really even tried?

Where's his email posted to show what evil bastards Amazon are for ignoring him?

If Dave was over here asking folks to email Amazon to request a magnifier heck even I'd pop off an email to support the effort. Why aren't we giving them a chance to prove their evil intent before we pick up the pitch forks and storm the castle walls?

We certainly gave irex every chance to show their true colors before we hacked that platform every which way. And they didn't even (still haven't) bring any content to the table the way Amazon has very much done. Amazon has fought the book content providers like a Tiger and gotten us what we want. Now we're supposed to use our hacking skills to pay them back how and for what cause du jour?

The music industry didn't go DRM-less because someone hacked the DRM and broke it free. They've started going DRM-less because it increases sales and the world didn't stop rotating. Do we need to restart the DRM-discussion here?
Because I absolutely dont agree with you (you seem to believe that DRM could be a good thing, which it cannot be), but I really dont want to do that OT-discussion here.
So.. If you want that discussion, start a new DRM-thread or restart an old one and I will be there.

Book publishers though know their content gets used once.Which is quite simply not true, people have demonstrated that often enough on this board.

Hacking skills don't come with no responsibilities.Sigh. With great power comes great responsibility, yay for Spiderman. But: Where is Amazons responsibility?

We need to risk destroying the platform to add a feature Amazon clearly could add themselves?You are greatly overrating your own importance. It is not that easy to destroy a platform - for every single DRM-mechanism on the normal market you can name, there already IS a circumvention mechanism. Still the market is functional.
What does this tell you? The possibility to make screenshots and reOCR them is not dangerous to Amazon. There are easier ways to get to the content.

If I buy a device I am going to use it the way I want to. There is no law stopping me from that.
You dont have to develop for a specific device, your decision. But leave others do their work without annoying them.

I personally dont like the idea of that magnifier too much (technical reasons) and I'd agree that it would be much better to simply get Amazon to release a "zoom-mechanism" and/or a nice image-viewer. And as I dont own a Kindle, I wont start developing for it. But: If somebody wants to implement said viewer: My best wishes.
I dont know (and frankly dont care) about the legal situation (would Amazon be allowed to restrict the usage or steal your bought products? In Germany I wouldnt think so, in the US I dont know), so you have to take care of that.
But again: if they fear a mechanism like that to circumvent DRM - apparently they would be able to stop it from accessing their books, so whats the big deal?
And if a mechanism as simple as that one could crush their whole marketing ... They didnt deserve it better.


Over in the Experimental section of the Kindle they ask people to send them ideas to their feedback email address on how to improve the platform. Do we know if Dave really even tried? Your getting personal without reason and you know it.
Still I agree - mass-mailing Amazon to implement that feature would probably be a better path.

Where's his email posted to show what evil bastards Amazon are for ignoring him?If he'd posted one it wouldnt have proved shit (excuse my language).
1) The email could be forged
2) You wouldnt know if Amazon reacted. How could he prove not getting a response?
And even that response-mail could have been forged.
Heck, I could just write a fictional email-discussion with Amazon supporting his claim without breaking a sweat.

Why aren't we giving them a chance to prove their evil intent before we pick up the pitch forks and storm the castle walls?I agree.

Amazon has fought the book content providers like a Tiger and gotten us what we want.Your getting money from Amazon?
Because you sound like you do - they fought (quite unfair) to get the most money.

Now we're supposed to use our hacking skills to pay them back how and for what cause du jour?
First: Stop talking about hacking. Simply implementing a mechanism like that is not hacking.
Second: I see NOTHING evil in the mechanism asked for. The screenshot-mechanism has been implemented by AMAZON. The only thing added would be the "zoom parts of the screenshot". And dont restart giving that "breaks DRM"-crap. Its bullshit and you know it. BTW: Noone asked for a "dump screenshots to the card of every single page".

scotty1024, what is your problem? Are you by any chance employeed by Amazon?

Obviously I did send such a request to Amazon. I did finally receive a reply. It was a form letter that did not do anything to resolve the problem. Basically a thank you note. I suspect many thousands of people want the same feature. In any case, I would prefer to discuss solving the problem rather than dealing with one person's lay legal opinions and rants. I have no fear of Amazon. I think it's a great company and I have some friends among the founders. If someone fixed this bug (and it is a bug) I'm pretty sure Amazon would be grateful for the increased customer satisfaction and resultant increase in sales.

Scotty, I never said you had no balls. I said you should use the ones you have once in awhile. What I meant by this is that you should stop worrying about what Amazon is going to do to you and show some courage. Try to make the world a better place for people around you instead of resorting to name calling and negativity. I'm sure Amazon would hire Igor in a nanosecond--even though he (gasp!)--violated the Kindle Terms of Service Agreement! I know I would.

Regards,

Dave E

From the original post (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25592):

One of Igor's famous easter eggs is this:

Shift-Sym start demo
Enabled only if allow_demo=true is passed on the Java commandline. Needs a special demo script present on the SD card.

Any idea what the "special script" is? I have never seen any reference to it. This sounds like a potential trapdoor to me. If it is, maybe my fantasy of an "image pan and zoom" is realizable.

Dave E

This is not a question regarding DRM or the Amazon license to use the Kindle. We're not talking about cracking ebooks. We're talking about making the Kindle do things. Here in the Developer's Corner, discussions concerning the hardware and software on the Kindle are pertinent. Legal issues of content distribution have nothing to do with it.

So. Moving on:

The question is, could the function for starting the demo allow the launching of other applications on the Kindle? It's a good question. I'd like to discuss it.

Has anyone spotted a Kindle with a demo script on an SD card, one which might indicate the nature of the script?

Don't have a kindle but just wanted to comment that Scotty1024 seem to be an obnoxious prick

Don't have a kindle but just wanted to comment that Scotty1024 seem to be an obnoxious prick

Never seem to be a moderator around when you need one... :thumbsup: