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jcornel7
05-07-2008, 08:18 AM
:help:

After some very extensive research I went to the Sony store yesterday and used my company discount to buy a Sony Reader. Its a very cool device and I travel a lot for work so this way I can do my research and tech reading without having to open my laptop. (I hope)

If not youll see this thing end up on Ebay

Here are my questions:
1. I have a library of hundreds of technical Ebooks, however they are all pdf or chm. Is there some way to batch convert them?

2. Where do you get your fiction books? (legally or "not so legally" - e.g. George RR Martin, Frank Herbert, Stephen King, Lincoln Childs, etc.)

3. Do you have to use the Sony eBook Library software, its a heap of dung as software goes?

4. I also have a ton of Word docs that I save to RTF however when I try to open them I get page invalid. How do I fix this?

OK I think that is all for now....Thanks in advance.

JeffElkins
05-07-2008, 08:41 AM
Welcome to the forum. Search for libprs500/calibre. It's a must have tool for Sony ebook conversion.

Regarding book sources for public domain material, this forum provides hundreds of books, and project Gutenberg thousands more.

Forum rules prohibit public discussion of sources for so-called "darknet" books. Just remember, Google is your friend.

vivaldirules
05-07-2008, 08:44 AM
Hello, and welcome. I can answer a couple of questions. I believe there is a batch converter for DRM-free PDFS using PDFLRF, although you should check to be sure. I don't know if Kovid's LIBPRS utitilies are batch are not, but I do know that it's used as a replacement for the Sony software as well as a file converter. You can check these out by looking in the Wiki for links. As to ebooks, we buy them or get legal copies for free. Please don't ask about illegal copies of anything here. In the Wiki, there's a terrific list of sites of ebooks in various formats. The list includes free ones, like this one (check out the ebooks section). I'm not sure of your RTF problem. Do you have a copy of Microsoft Word on your PC? It's required for the Sony software to convert, I believe. If that's not it, you might post a question in the Sony area.

The Old Man
05-07-2008, 09:23 AM
I hate to throw cold water on your new Reader but if your technical pdf books have a lot of diagrams or charts they will be hard to read on the Sony.

Actually I have become accustomed to the Connect software. Yes, it needs improvements but it does work once you learn the quirks.

RWood
05-07-2008, 09:49 AM
In addition to the Sony Store Fictionwise offers a lot of books and magazines for the Sony in LRF format.

igorsk
05-07-2008, 10:24 AM
Baen also offers all their books in LRF.
http://www.webscription.net/
http://www.baen.com/library

=X=
05-07-2008, 12:51 PM
:help:

Here are my questions:
1. I have a library of hundreds of technical Ebooks, however they are all pdf or chm. Is there some way to batch convert them?

I also read a lot of technical PDF the best solution I've found this far is PDFLRF. The Calibre software has a pdf2lrf converter but it does not handle images or tables, only pure text.
The strength/weakness of PDFLRF is that it turns the PDF to images and enhances them, but also increases the filesize. Calibre keeps it as text.


2. Where do you get your fiction books?
Sony Connect their prices is pretty comparable to Amazon.


3. Do you have to use the Sony eBook Library software, its a heap of dung as software goes?

Yes and No. If you plan to buy books at Sony CONNECT you have to use their software. Also it does a good job of converting your Word docs into RTF so it does save you a step.


4. I also have a ton of Word docs that I save to RTF however when I try to open them I get page invalid. How do I fix this?

I have not seen this so I don't know what the error is. However one note sony RTF does not handle images, so if your word documents have embeded objects or images they do not work on the reader. Personaly I would not convert the Word documents to RTF manually. I would use the Sony Software to do this form me.
If your word documents are complicated (ie think of ascii documents) then I would use a different format to save the documents. Personally I use OpenOffice (OO) /Calibe (aka libprs500) for complicated word documents. With OO I save the document as an HTML file, if there are images I create a zip file with the images and HTML. Import the zip to Calibe and convet it to an LRF.

pilotbob
05-07-2008, 12:57 PM
Here are my questions:
1. I have a library of hundreds of technical Ebooks, however they are all pdf or chm. Is there some way to batch convert them?

2. Where do you get your fiction books? (legally or "not so legally" - e.g. George RR Martin, Frank Herbert, Stephen King, Lincoln Childs, etc.)

3. Do you have to use the Sony eBook Library software, its a heap of dung as software goes?

4. I also have a ton of Word docs that I save to RTF however when I try to open them I get page invalid. How do I fix this?

OK I think that is all for now....Thanks in advance.

Most of your questions can be answered on the Wiki, expessially for lists of convertion software and ebook sources.

Just a few comments...

3. With the 505 you can just copy books using File Explorer (windows) or whatever your OS provides since it mounts as an external storage device. However, using the sony software to transfer gives the advantage of preformating the book so they will open faster. Although I believe this hit is only taken on the first time you open a book.

4. Hm... do they have PICs in them? Have you tried saving as .txt?

BOb

RSaunders
05-07-2008, 01:39 PM
2. Where do you get your fiction books? (legally or "not so legally" - e.g. George RR Martin, Frank Herbert, Stephen King, Lincoln Childs, etc.)


We have a list of places to get books:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11052

Please add new or good ones you find to the end of the thread. I'll update the list in the first message. That way new folks only have to read the first message.

tgharold
05-07-2008, 09:34 PM
I think you'll find that viewing PDF files (usually designed for 8.5" x 11" paper) to be very difficult to view on a screen that is only 6" diagonal. Even though the screen is 170dpi, which is pretty darn good.

I'm simply happy that I don't have to carry around 10lb of paperback books for leisure reading. (And between Baen's webstore and Project Gutenberg, I have plenty of stuff to read.)

simonp
05-08-2008, 07:28 PM
Forum rules prohibit public discussion of sources for so-called "darknet" books. Just remember, Google is your friend.

Is this a hard and fast forum rule?

Most sources of "illegal" digital books (read: p2p networks), could also be assumed to have substantial "legal" digital books as well.

One can't point out sources of legal books if there's a chance these sources might also have illegal books?

NatCh
05-09-2008, 09:51 AM
Is this a hard and fast forum rule?Here's a link to the Policy.

The relevant short answer is that MobileRead does not allow links to sites that host illegal (read: "copyright infringing") texts available.


Most sources of "illegal" digital books (read: p2p networks), could also be assumed to have substantial "legal" digital books as well.If they're legally available on such sites, they're also going to be legally available on other sites whose legitimacy is ... let's call it "less questionable."

One can't point out sources of legal books if there's a chance these sources might also have illegal books?I had a teacher in High-School that summed up his view of morality as: "If it's wrong, don't do it -- and you know the difference." I'd add, if you can't tell the difference it's probably wrong. :nice:

If you're reasonably sure that there aren't any illegal books, then fine, but please don't get ridiculous on us and post stuff where you "don't know" because you've "completely and deliberately declined to look."

In other words: Please read the forum policy, if something is contrary to that policy, please don't post it, and if you can't tell, then please don't post it (we'll just have to pull it down).
:thanks:

MerLock
05-09-2008, 10:20 AM
Another question from a newb. I'm assuming it's safe to put the Sony Reader through an x-ray screener at the airport? Not too familiar with E-ink technology but guessing since this device is aimed at travelers I'm guessing it should safe. But thought I'd ask anyways.=)

zelda_pinwheel
05-09-2008, 10:27 AM
there are many forum members who have reported travelling with no trouble whatsoever. i think if you do a search for "travelling" you'll find a thread which was called something like "travelling with kindle" (i can't remember exactly.).

EDIT : actually it was "travelling with Cybook (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22287&highlight=travelling)". it's been a while, but i seem to remember someone explicitly mentioning the x-ray machines, and that they pose no danger.

vivaldirules
05-09-2008, 10:37 AM
I always take my Sony Reader with me when I fly. I've not had any problems with it being scanned and don't think I've seen any posts here where anyone else has either.

jplumey
05-09-2008, 10:43 AM
I fly quite a bit and it's never a problem. In fact, I've never even been asked to turn it off during the takeoff and landing. Though that might be because I have it stashed in side my hollowed out book case.

NatCh
05-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Fly at least twice a month with mine, and no problems so far. :nice:

JSWolf
05-09-2008, 12:21 PM
My 505 has been on a plane once with no issue. My previous 500 has been on a plane once. My wife's 500 has been on a plane twice.

MerLock
05-09-2008, 12:53 PM
Thank you very much for the quick replies! Wonderful community.

Elsi
05-09-2008, 02:24 PM
I fly quite a bit and it's never a problem. In fact, I've never even been asked to turn it off during the takeoff and landing. Though that might be because I have it stashed in side my hollowed out book case.
Errr... you *were* told to turn it off when they made the announcement that passengers are to turn off all electronic devices. Just because no one noticed that the reader is an electronic device and spoke to you personally doesn't mean that you weren't included in the general instructions.

pilotbob
05-09-2008, 02:28 PM
Errr... you *were* told to turn it off when they made the announcement that passengers are to turn off all electronic devices. Just because no one noticed that the reader is an electronic device and spoke to you personally doesn't mean that you weren't included in the general instructions.

Except sliding the "on/off" switch on the Sony doesn't change anything other than blanking the screen. So, technically it really is in the same state.

Although to avoid any problems in a plane which is a federal offense I generally slide the switch/blank the screen... and slid the thing into the seat back pocket. This is the one advantage to having a pbook when on a plane.

BOb

RSaunders
05-09-2008, 03:11 PM
Another question from a newb. I'm assuming it's safe to put the Sony Reader through an x-ray screener at the airport? Not too familiar with E-ink technology but guessing since this device is aimed at travelers I'm guessing it should safe. But thought I'd ask anyways.=)

Mine has been Xrayed 100 times, no problem. I have had it pulled out of my bag 4-5 times. They ask "Is this a laptop? You're supposed to take laptops out of your bag." I can't imagine how TSA thinks a laptop computer got into that tiny form factor. They seem to think anything with a circuit board the scanner can recognize is a laptop. Frankly, I've given up thinking about it. I take it out and put it with my shoes in the bin without my laptop. This let's them see the big circuit board more clearly. They haven't mentioned it since.

RSaunders
05-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Is this a hard and fast forum rule?

Most sources of "illegal" digital books (read: p2p networks), could also be assumed to have substantial "legal" digital books as well.

One can't point out sources of legal books if there's a chance these sources might also have illegal books?

I included Silk Pagoda in the list of sources. At one time, they sold some Doc Savage ebooks which were the subject of a copyright dispute. I completely ignored the dispute. The forum monitors can't expect folks to know all the copyright timelines in all the countries of the world.

Thus:

a) Some warez site of books pirated from the Sony Store = not something you should put on the forum.
b) Some ebook site that might have a book or two that's got a questionable provenience = OK
c) Software tool for removing DRM = gray area as it depends on the country you're in.

NatCh
05-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Errr... you *were* told to turn it off when they made the announcement that passengers are to turn off all electronic devices. Just because no one noticed that the reader is an electronic device and spoke to you personally doesn't mean that you weren't included in the general instructions.Technically, these things aren't really off when they're "off." Even when the screens are blank the processor is still running, so it's not really any more "off" when it's off than it is when it's on. :shrug:

And if you followed that, you deserve a cookie! :nice:

vivaldirules
05-09-2008, 04:44 PM
And if you followed that, you deserve a cookie! :nice:

Make mine chocolate, please, NatCh. I'll be in The Lounge. Is there milk to go with?

spooky69
05-09-2008, 09:06 PM
You can also download huge illegal book packs in torrents in any area of knowledge.

Guesser
05-09-2008, 09:45 PM
1. I have a library of hundreds of technical Ebooks, however they are all pdf or chm. Is there some way to batch convert them?

Personally, I've had the most success with PDFLRF - http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13135

When doing your conversion it's best to crop out any headers, footers, and page numbers. Unfortunately, that basically has to be done manually. PDFLRF allows you to set some global cropping for this that you can preview, or you can do it beforehand in Adobe Acrobat Professional (which costs money). And then you'll also usually want to allow it to automatically trim any extra whitespace around the edges. For most technical ebooks, you'll want to output it in landscape mode and tweak the thickness to best effect (again, you can preview this). Generally in these forums, people seem to write off PDF viewing in portrait mode.. but there are rare cases where it basically seems okay, at least for my eyes.

If you've got Adobe Acrobat Professional, then I suppose there are cases where it'd be in your interest to let it clean up any rough edges or background gray (so that the conversion software can do a better job of automatic cropping). I think further manual effort beyond that is not worthwhile unless it's something you can share with others (try to be satisfied with it being imperfect - it's okay).

AndiR
05-10-2008, 10:45 AM
With my PRS 500 I have passed through more than 300 X ray machines in the last year and a half and with no problems.

I lost it in fact, last week travelling between two terminals in Madrid :angry:

Oh well, that's an opportunity to buy a new iliad or something similar :)

Regards from Spain, AndiR

kacir
05-10-2008, 11:03 AM
Another question from a newb. I'm assuming it's safe to put the Sony Reader through an x-ray screener at the airport? Not too familiar with E-ink technology but guessing since this device is aimed at travelers I'm guessing it should safe. But thought I'd ask anyways.=)
My reader went through the scanner at the airport (as the carry-on baggage) more than 12 times.
They do not use X-ray. It does not damage film in the camera. I am talking about normal film, not the super-sensitive stuff.