Error message about fonts in ePub when using ITP.

katiesommer · 01-17-2013, 08:47 PM

I'm going to apologize up front for this being my third post started today. I'm sure that must be annoying, and I'm sorry for it.

I am having trouble with another ITMS-9000 error message. This time it's about the font I used, Times New Roman. Here's a screenshot.

I never thought I'd have a problem with TNR in the ePub!

I just got my ITP error messages down from 35 to 4, so I'm ecstatic, though there's a lot of work to still do.

Thanks for any direction you can give me.

KS

DiapDealer · 01-17-2013, 08:57 PM

Unrelated to your problem... but I hope you're not thinking of distributing TNR in an epub. It's not a freely distributable font, to my knowledge.

katiesommer · 01-17-2013, 09:07 PM

I didn't mean really to specify or distribute any certain font, to be honest. I guess I assumed it would change from whatever it was in InDesign to whatever was optimized for iPhone or iPad. I have so much to learn. :S

Is there any way to change/fix this in OPF file? Or do I have to go back into InDesign and change something? What font SHOULD I be using, then?

Toxaris · 01-18-2013, 03:18 AM

No font, actually. Let the reading application (or reader) choose a font. When you export from ID, you need to switch of the font embedding.

Jellby · 01-18-2013, 05:55 AM

By the way, the problem reported in that window is not about Times New Roman, it's about a file included in the ePub but not manifested. It happens to be a font file, but it could have been anything.

katiesommer · 01-18-2013, 04:48 PM

Is that the easiest way of fixing this, then--switching off the font embedding in ID? Or is there another way of fixing it in the OPF or CSS?

JSWolf · 01-18-2013, 04:55 PM

Yes, turn off font embedding.

Do you really want to embed fonts? The #1 embedded font is Charis SIL because it looks good and is free.

dgatwood · 01-18-2013, 07:14 PM

Well, you don't necessarily have to avoid all font embedding, but most folks don't embed body fonts, and you definitely should not embed a font that doesn't specifically allow embedding in an EPUB (which AFAIK that one doesn't unless you have a specific agreement with Monotype to the contrary).

Incidentally, this error would be flagged by epubcheck as well. You should definitely run your book through that before submitting it anywhere.

katiesommer · 01-19-2013, 11:29 AM

Good deal; thanks everyone. I'll export again with no fonts embedded and run it through IDPF's ePub validator before I upload to ITP.

katiesommer · 01-21-2013, 12:10 PM

OK! Fixed the font embedding issue, also fixed the date value bug in the content.opf file, and the IDPF ePub Validator comes up clean, except for one "warning" (not "error"), that:

WARNING OEBPS/content.opf 2 202 title element is empty

Something I should fix, or ignore?

Toxaris · 01-21-2013, 03:34 PM

Fix. There is no title given in the metadata.

01-17-2013, 09:07 PM	#3
katiesommer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle	I didn't mean really to specify or distribute any certain font, to be honest. I guess I assumed it would change from whatever it was in InDesign to whatever was optimized for iPhone or iPad. I have so much to learn. :S Is there any way to change/fix this in OPF file? Or do I have to go back into InDesign and change something? What font SHOULD I be using, then? Last edited by katiesommer; 01-17-2013 at 09:31 PM.

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01-17-2013, 08:47 PM	#1
katiesommer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle	Error message about fonts in ePub when using ITP. I'm going to apologize up front for this being my third post started today. I'm sure that must be annoying, and I'm sorry for it. I am having trouble with another ITMS-9000 error message. This time it's about the font I used, Times New Roman. Here's a screenshot. I never thought I'd have a problem with TNR in the ePub! I just got my ITP error messages down from 35 to 4, so I'm ecstatic, though there's a lot of work to still do. Thanks for any direction you can give me. KS

01-17-2013, 08:57 PM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,892 Karma: 207182180 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Unrelated to your problem... but I hope you're not thinking of distributing TNR in an epub. It's not a freely distributable font, to my knowledge.

01-18-2013, 03:18 AM	#4
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	No font, actually. Let the reading application (or reader) choose a font. When you export from ID, you need to switch of the font embedding.

01-18-2013, 05:55 AM	#5
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,570 Karma: 20150435 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	By the way, the problem reported in that window is not about Times New Roman, it's about a file included in the ePub but not manifested. It happens to be a font file, but it could have been anything.

01-18-2013, 04:48 PM	#6
katiesommer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle	Is that the easiest way of fixing this, then--switching off the font embedding in ID? Or is there another way of fixing it in the OPF or CSS?

01-18-2013, 04:55 PM	#7
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,784 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Yes, turn off font embedding. Do you really want to embed fonts? The #1 embedded font is Charis SIL because it looks good and is free.

01-18-2013, 07:14 PM	#8
dgatwood Curmudgeon Posts: 629 Karma: 1623086 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: iPad, iPhone, Nook Simple Touch	Well, you don't necessarily have to avoid all font embedding, but most folks don't embed body fonts, and you definitely should not embed a font that doesn't specifically allow embedding in an EPUB (which AFAIK that one doesn't unless you have a specific agreement with Monotype to the contrary). Incidentally, this error would be flagged by epubcheck as well. You should definitely run your book through that before submitting it anywhere.

01-19-2013, 11:29 AM	#9
katiesommer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle	Good deal; thanks everyone. I'll export again with no fonts embedded and run it through IDPF's ePub validator before I upload to ITP.

01-21-2013, 12:10 PM	#10
katiesommer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle	OK! Fixed the font embedding issue, also fixed the date value bug in the content.opf file, and the IDPF ePub Validator comes up clean, except for one "warning" (not "error"), that: WARNING OEBPS/content.opf 2 202 title element is empty Something I should fix, or ignore?

01-21-2013, 03:34 PM	#11
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Fix. There is no title given in the metadata.

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